Escape from New York (Remake)

[Advanced Dark]

Well it is possible, just spread the word to people, help them boycott crap films basically, it does work, but the more people on board, the better, we need to stop things like date movie, and promote things like Brick!

Why do we need to stop things like Date Movie? Yeah I thought it sucked too however why should your tastes or my tastes be forced upon the general public by a meaningless and selfish boycott. What a waste of time and energy it is to boycott a film when it's much easier to not buy a ticket. LOL Boycotts are useless on this level. Not buying a ticket is much more powerful considering if enough people dont' buy tickets that film won't be touched again. What do you care if they make Date Movie 2. Hell that's good news you know why? Because when a film we do like comes out a portion of people will go see DAte Movie 2 and free up some seats for you and me for the movie we want to watch.

 

[Warhammer]

No. Remakes should only be made if there's an audience for them and they're of the same quality or better than the original on one level or another. I don't expect Butler is going to be a better Snake but the story around him will surely be much better given they'll have the budget to make it right. The original couldn't film everything due to the budget that they wanted to so. So hopefully the fuller story, the bigger budget, today's film technology, etc...will give us an overall better picture than the original. Kurt will always be the original. He's not God though. If there's an audience then I'm all for them making a film. If it's not the kind of film I'm into...I'm not going to cry about it. I won't watch it. It's my choice. I'm happy for those who enjoyed it. You don't see me going to the Tremors or Leprechaun boards (if they exist LOL) saying they should stop making these movies. Why should they stop if there's a big enough audience to support it. Making a remake does NOT change the original film. It's still intact. Somebody making a remake or a film that's of no interest to you...does not effect you.

One of the best posts that I've seen on the Hype.

However, I still am entitled to my own opinion. Nobody can take that away from me, so if I feel disappointed at the remakes (etc.), so be it. Oh well. I can complain all I want about some movies, and since we all do it (apparently, not you), it ain't changing anytime soon.

 

[Noir]

Slashfilm says this movie may be a prequel.

 

[Cyrusbales]

people mentioning how film qualities in the 80's were so poor, but there are some high quality(in terms of technology) films before then, look at Blow up in the sixties for example!(amazing film)

 

[Noir]

Last week we reported that New Line Cinema had won rights to remake Escape From New York with 300 star Gerard Butler attached to star. John Carpenter believes the new movie might actually be a PREQUEL.

“I don’t know that it’s a remake,” Carpenter told SuicideGirls.com. “I think it’s a lot about Snake before he gets to New York.”
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And John would know. As an executive producer on the new movie, he has read the screenplays.

“My main involvement is I read the scripts and make sure the character is the same character that we wrote originally. I think that would be cool. My other main involvement in this project is to extend my hand and have a check placed in it.”
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Butler would play Snake Plissken, the one-eyed convict who must rescue the President of the United States from an inescapable maximum security prison formerly known as Manhattan. The film was set in a dystopian then-future 1997. Kurt Russell originated the role.
Carpenter also speculates that the Snake Plissken character will “probably be reinvented for his time. But we’ll see. I don’t know if he will be mullet-less or with the mullet.”

http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/03/21/escape-from-new-york-prequel/

 

[nocomics]

So, if this is a sure thing that butler gets the role,just gotta ask a simple question? Will they ask/make him tone down for the role? He looked pretty freakin' buffed in 300,and Kurt is by no means that built..

 

[Noir]

I'm sure he will..
Or if its a prequel like what James Cameron says then maybe Snake was built before he got to New York.

 

[Cyrusbales]

So, if this is a sure thing that butler gets the role,just gotta ask a simple question? Will they ask/make him tone down for the role? He looked pretty freakin' buffed in 300,and Kurt is by no means that built..

all the 6 packs in 300 were airbrushed in.....

 

[Noir]

all the 6 packs in 300 were airbrushed in.....

I want that Airbrush.

 

[Hunter Rider]

here's an interesting take on why everyone thinks he's dead from wikipedia...

Some time later, he turned to a life of crime, probably due to the perceived betrayal of the United States government during the "Leningrad Ruse". Snake took up with partners Harold Hellman (later known as "Brain") and Fresno Bob. In Kansas City around 1993, Hellman apparently let Plissken and Fresno Bob get cornered by police, at which time Fresno Bob was brutally tortured and killed by fascistic sadists within the United States Police Force.

Possibly as a result of the Kansas City incident, it was widely believed in the criminal community that Plissken was dead. This is a running gag in Escape from New York: "I heard you were dead."

and here's another interesting tidbit from wikipedia...

"Snake was arrested in 1997 after breaking into the U.S. Federal Reserve in Denver, Colorado. Following the heist, the story of his capture was filmed, although the footage was cut from the beginning of the movie. It can be seen on supplementary materials on the VHS and DVD editions of Escape from New York."

maybe they'll film this for the remake? i think it'd be cool to see how Snake gets captured...

Interestingly that running gag is taken from the John Wayne film Big Jake,Carpenter is a big fan.

 

[DorkyFresh]

people mentioning how film qualities in the 80's were so poor, but there are some high quality(in terms of technology) films before then, look at Blow up in the sixties for example!(amazing film)

well i, personally, try not to hate on the effects. most of the time my complaint is not that they're no good...it's that they're outdated. trust me, i can appreciate the effects because i'm trying to break into the industry right now...but i also realize that if you compare today's effects to the effects of 81 there's no contest. the technology of today is far more powerful today than back then. that's a big reason of why i want to see a remake. i'm an effects freak and the New York from the original movie barely showed anything because technology was so limited. now they have the ability to truely show all of NYC as a city full of truly dangerous criminals as opposed to a bunch of costumed freaks. don't get me wrong...i liked the creeps and freaks that acted all weird in the original, but almost every guy in there had some sort of gimmick. they now have the chance to give Escape from New York a bigger, fuller, more complete experience than the original.


hopefully they don't muck it up. it's happened before...

 

[Cyrusbales]

well i, personally, try not to hate on the effects. most of the time my complaint is not that they're no good...it's that they're outdated. trust me, i can appreciate the effects because i'm trying to break into the industry right now...but i also realize that if you compare today's effects to the effects of 81 there's no contest. the technology of today is far more powerful today than back then. that's a big reason of why i want to see a remake. i'm an effects freak and the New York from the original movie barely showed anything because technology was so limited. now they have the ability to truely show all of NYC as a city full of truly dangerous criminals as opposed to a bunch of costumed freaks. don't get me wrong...i liked the creeps and freaks that acted all weird in the original, but almost every guy in there had some sort of gimmick. they now have the chance to give Escape from New York a bigger, fuller, more complete experience than the original.


hopefully they don't muck it up. it's happened before...

You trying to become an effects person then? I was commenting on the production values rather than effects, because to some extent i agree with you, but when they start remaking the day the earth stood still, then I get pissed!

 

[DorkyFresh]

You trying to become an effects person then? I was commenting on the production values rather than effects, because to some extent i agree with you, but when they start remaking the day the earth stood still, then I get pissed!

well...same thing applies to production. everything back then was harder, more expensive, more difficult than everything is now...so they were much more limited on what they could get on film. actually...the way things are going, we'll soon stop getting stuff on film and start getting stuff on digital instead, hehe.

but yeah...i'm trying to make it big in the effects business. i've worked on a few projects but nothing big by any means. if i get off my lazy ass maybe i'll break though...hehe.

So, if this is a sure thing that butler gets the role,just gotta ask a simple question? Will they ask/make him tone down for the role? He looked pretty freakin' buffed in 300,and Kurt is by no means that built..

Kurt wasn't huge or anything but he wasn't exactly a slouch either...

 

[Cyrusbales]

well...same thing applies to production. everything back then was harder, more expensive, more difficult than everything is now...so they were much more limited on what they could get on film. actually...the way things are going, we'll soon stop getting stuff on film and start getting stuff on digital instead, hehe.

but yeah...i'm trying to make it big in the effects business. i've worked on a few projects but nothing big by any means. if i get off my lazy ass maybe i'll break though...hehe.



Kurt wasn't huge or anything but he wasn't exactly a slouch either...

Well if you look at the production values of things like blow up(no budget) and then Kubrik's work etc, then you see high values in earlier times. Effects, yeah they can be improved upon.

As for your career, where are you based? I could throw some work your way if you want?

 

[ghost_x]

Well if you look at the production values of things like blow up(no budget) and then Kubrik's work etc, then you see high values in earlier times. Effects, yeah they can be improved upon.

As for your career, where are you based? I could throw some work your way if you want?

I wouldn't say no to some of that

 

[Cyrusbales]

well tell me where your based, what you do etc, and any credits and so on and so forth, and I'll see if I can hook you up! Most of my contacts are obviously over here in good ol' england, but I may be able to help....

 

[ghost_x]

I live in England, Essex to be more precise. I am at the moment waiting to attend university in September where I will be studying Film Production. I am currently a screenwriter and actor and constantly trying improving my skills in the effects field. As experience goes, this is something I am looking for, I have written, directed and starred in three plays which have been performed in front of audiences around a hundred. All have been pretty well received.

 

[Cyrusbales]

well drop me an e-mail sometime, with a CV etc, and we can talk about this some more if you want

[email protected]

 

[ghost_x]

Appreciate it man. So what area are you in, in the film industry?

 

[Cyrusbales]

director/writer/producer

mainly in that order, I'm hoping to pick up an award at brighton, rushes and angel this year, I've got some great feedback from the judges already....

anyhow, drop me an E-mail, gd nitE!

 

[DorkyFresh]

Well if you look at the production values of things like blow up(no budget) and then Kubrik's work etc, then you see high values in earlier times. Effects, yeah they can be improved upon.

As for your career, where are you based? I could throw some work your way if you want?

yeah, that's true...there will always be films that are ahead of it's time. Kubrik's stuff definitely falls into that category...

...as for work, that'd be swell! i'll PM ya.

 

[cryptic name]

I missed that part. However it is a remake. They're just going to expand the storyline and tell alot more of the backstory talked about in Wikpedia which to me is a good thing. A few of you talked about how that should be a mystery but clearly it's not...they just never filmed it. It was talked about throughout the films.

exactly, talked about, but never really shown. even in that deleted scene, it doesn't really answer any questions, they mention how he was captured in the movie, so that scene didn't add much value. snake works better as a character with a past that's hinted at and alluded to, rather than spelled out. a Batman Begins approach would kill a lot of what makes plisken cool in the first place. they can go back and show some stuff, make his capture a big, exciting scene, that would be cool, but seeing the pre-dissalusioned, soldier snake is unnessecary in my opinion.

 

[DorkyFresh]

i think we can all agree that we don't want to see too much of Snake's past but judging by the comments from Carpenter we might just get what we don't want...i hope not though.

 

[ghost_x]

I've got a feeling we will be seeing that patch go on

 

[cryptic name]

i think we can all agree that we don't want to see too much of Snake's past but judging by the comments from Carpenter we might just get what we don't want...i hope not though.

you're probably right. i hope they realize there are some things that they will never be able to show on screen that will match what exists in minds of the viewer. the eye patch is a perfect example, i'm pretty sure they'll never find an explaination that would satisfy most fans or even casual movie goers. but i'm sure they'll attempt it