Evil Dead (2013)

[CashforStash]

This isn't made by Platinum Dunes though and has gotten far better reviews.

And it's gonna make a loooooooot of money for a horror film.

tbh. I can't picture a ED2 and a AO2 coming out in the same decade. The general audience would just be too confused about AO2. I believe ED 2 will probably be a mix of both films and might include Ash. Who knows, maybe Rami and the new director can team up for ED4.

 

[def28]

No one will be confused. This was supposed to be the same Cabin as the original, and they always seem to have an intro explaining what happened previously in the sequels. If they are confused then too bad, they can use wiki haha. Not to say this film isnt decent, but I'll take a Raimi ED film any day over this flick. Those films are gonna be so different even in title, it wont matter in the slightest imo.

What a min...

So. According to Alvarez. There's going to be an ED2. AOD2....then a seventh film where Ash and Mia join forces as the Chainsaw hand duo?

Groovy

Yeah, sounds pretty damn awesome.

 

[The Dark Defender]

Just like the proposed sequels to the reboots of Friday the 13th and Nightmare on Elm Street (which were both box office successes), I'll believe it when I see it.

I think they were actually disappointed with how ANOES performed.

 

[Kane52630]

8.5/10 for me, there was a sh** tons of blood and easter eggs but it left me wanting more.

 

[DACrowe]

the movie is gory but not terrifying as the poster says it to be

Did anybody really think it was supposed to be scary? The original isn't. It is more meant to shock and amuse. The title is somewhat sarcastic, much like the original tagged itself as "The Most Grueling Experience in Terror." Of course it is not those things. It cannot be when it is so silly.

Sure, it is more grizzly and slightly more somber than the original (though also more "grounded" and less surreal to my detriment), but audiences are more meant to cringe and laugh at the sight of Mia Frenching Natalie or sticking a chainsaw in the monster's mouth at the end. When Mia vomits on Olivia, it is supposed to be just as funny as it is gross.

With such a tone it can never be scary, nor do I think it is trying to be.

 

[Figs]

Did anybody really think it was supposed to be scary? The original isn't. It is more meant to shock and amuse. The title is somewhat sarcastic, much like the original tagged itself as "The Most Grueling Experience in Terror." Of course it is not those things. It cannot be when it is so silly.

Sure, it is more grizzly and slightly more somber than the original (though also more "grounded" and less surreal to my detriment), but audiences are more meant to cringe and laugh at the sight of Mia Frenching Natalie or sticking a chainsaw in the monster's mouth at the end. When Mia vomits on Olivia, it is supposed to be just as funny as it is gross.

With such a tone it can never be scary, nor do I think it is trying to be.

That's my problem with a lot of people and their views on horror films. I don't get or agree with the opinion that EVERY horror film's main goal is to scare people. I guess some people just like cliche scenes where things jump out at the characters. Just like the overused cat jumping across their face scene that's been used in numerous films.

If you've seen the original film, you should know that being "scary" wasn't this films goal. Like you said DACrowe, it's more trying to gross people out and make them cringe. I think the movie did that fairly well.

 

[DACrowe]

The original tree rape is brutal but its supposed to be. It is still problematic though in a number of ways.

The tree rape in the new film is intended as a call back and certainly receives a rousing response from fans.

In the first film it is shocking. In the new film it is expected.

In the remake it is pay off for fan expectations and reputation.

Rape as gratification.



The indictment of the audience in Cabin in the Woods is more relevant here than anything that has to with cabins in the woods.

I really think the whole series can be found guilty of gratuity for entertainment. Not to the level of, say, Funny Games (which feels more in response to dumb slashers or torture porn), but certainly on the level of Cabin in the Wood's critique. ****, the first 30 minutes may as well have been a remake of ED as well.

All four Evil Dead films take pleasure in punishing their characters and watching them suffer. This may be easier to digest in the past as all the characters in The Evil Dead (1981) and Evil Dead II are ciphers, but we are still laughing at their misery.

And in terms of "rape" or sexuality, the scene in the original is obviously meant to titillate, hence the gratuitous nudity. It also is presented with same tongue-in-cheek mischievously devious tone as the rest of the film.

And even if it is "unexpected" in ED1, ED2 features Ash willingly cutting his girlfriend's head in half after told that his lover "suffers in torment." He just tells the head to shut up at that accusation. Then, in Army of Darkness, Sheila is basically raped by Evil Ash and becomes a Deadite. Just because it is less graphic than the '81 or '13 films, does not mean it is not a terrible implication. When confronted with Sheila the Deadite, Ash only deadpans and mocks her as opposed to showing regret over her turning.

If one wants to start picking apart sexuality in this series, all three (and Raimi himself) are very vulnerable to the critique. The '13 film is just more of the same be it tree rapes or forced lesbian kissing/mutilation.

Just a thought.

 

[terry78]

I suspect a lot of teens will go to this and get grossed out but leave with the "dude, that wasn't even scary" comments. They go to these things to laugh and get the cliche jump scare/quick cut horror, which is what they're used to.

 

[Jack Bauer]

When I saw it yesterday, all the teens in the crowd, which was basically ALL of the crowd, loved the hell out of the film. I remember a few jump scares that scared the crap out of a few people.

 

[Poeman]

I dont like horror films anymore because they are not practical and are primarily made for spooking you with sounds and darkness nowadays.

This is a throwback and let me tell you...I thought this was pretty damn good

Go see it with a crowd, especially one loaded with kids and ghetto people they make experience so hilarious. its one of those films where I find it tolerable.

 

[BigThanos]

I'm going to see this tonight!

 

[def28]

Aintitcool interview about the ending Stinger. Spoilers here.
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/61859

Even though they just put that up it's an older interview from SXSW so everyone seemed alot more secretive. At Wondercon they seemed more open to talking about the future, Alvarez flat out said a sequel and crossover is what he would like to do. While BC confirmed there is a chance of Ash returning.

 

[Rodrigo90]

I'd like ED2 to have a premise like the Evil Dead Regeneration game.

Where after the events of the original movie, Ash is placed inside a mental institution because the police believed he went insane and killed his friends.

That would work perfectly for Mia in this more serious setting of things.

 

[mclay18]

I'm going to be one of those who thought it wasn't that scary. Alvarez shoots the violent scenes with a realistic and gritty vibe, which made me wince rather than laugh. He does conjure up some creepy atmosphere before hell lets loose, and I have to give Jane Levy major props for going through all she does in the film. And she delivers one hell of a performance, as well as Shiloh Fernandez.

In the last 15-20 minutes does the film truly turn into an Evil Dead film. I was rooting for the survivor to make it and laughing at the outrageous violence. Loved that end credits stinger.

 

[Dugath]

Just got back from seeing it.
It was ok, I was entertained.

1.It was not scary, some shock scares, but its all good

Spoiler

Never had that suspense "scary" feeling (for me).
But has 2-3 startle spots

2.It was not as gory as some people made it out to be (I have seen worse).

Spoiler

Even the GF said she expected it to be worse and she gets grossed out easily.
Put it this way.. if you watch Spartacus you see worse.
I did enjoy the hand ripping off at the end there though.. is it wrong to enjoy?

But it was an entertaining Movie for sure (for us who like this type of Movie).

 

[Balthus Dire]

I thought it was pretty awesome for the most part, but I do wish that it made an attempt to be a bit smarter of a film.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

I absolutely loved and enjoyed the film will post a full review tomorrow.

Overall I give it a 8.5/10

 

[SuperBatman]

Somebody may of already posted this but if not.

Guys I don't know if you've done this or haven't seen this yet I suggest you stay till after the credits

Mini Spoiler for the End Credits.

Spoiler

THere is a little something for the Original Evil Dead fans. The Book of the Dead tape is read and the last Image shows Bruce Cambell saying Groovy.

Just thought you should know.

 

[bullets]

Did anybody really think it was supposed to be scary? The original isn't. It is more meant to shock and amuse. The title is somewhat sarcastic, much like the original tagged itself as "The Most Grueling Experience in Terror." Of course it is not those things. It cannot be when it is so silly.

Sure, it is more grizzly and slightly more somber than the original (though also more "grounded" and less surreal to my detriment), but audiences are more meant to cringe and laugh at the sight of Mia Frenching Natalie or sticking a chainsaw in the monster's mouth at the end. When Mia vomits on Olivia, it is supposed to be just as funny as it is gross.

With such a tone it can never be scary, nor do I think it is trying to be.

I thought the original was a bit scary when I was younger. Not everything, but there was definitely something creepy about it. The remake uses conventional horror tactics to scare people , but it also goes so over the top you can't help but laugh. So yeah I don't see the main purpose of these films being scary. I enjoy Evil Dead 2 the most out of the series because it's a dark comedy. Most fans want to see Ash return because he's such a fun character.

 

[CashforStash]

If Mia is ever to be revealed as a relative to Ash, I will hang my self aahahah.

But honestly, I loved the original triliogy (i'd give AOD a 6/10 though) and the reviews and reactions made me soo pumped to see this today, and i came out and said "it was cool".

Nothing more really, nothing less. Just a good 90 minute homage to the original ED and full of great non-cgi gore, but tbh I craved a little more violence.

The characters were dull, aside from Mia and the long haired guy, and a lot was cut out just by watching the trailers and stuff. Idk, i should of just not anticipated this movie and I probably would of friggan loved it walking out.

7/10. My favorite ED's from favorite to least favorite.

1. ED 2
2. ED
3. ED 2013
4. AOD

 

[def28]

Damn, this thing is gonna make some bank. Unless it drops its gonna land inbetween 25-30mil. C+ Cinema score though. Thats the same as the NOES remake but lower then Friday The 13th. Some BS, way better then those two.

 

[Kar]

As a huge fan of the original and Sam Raimi in general I thought this was a great horror movie. Not as scary as it was made out to be exactly but it was sure was one helluva ride! I loved loved LOVED Jane Levy. I'm so glad they went with her over Lily Collins. I also love how they went wih a female hero. At first I was afraid they were gonna go with the brother (thank God they didn't). The ending scenes really did it for me where it really became an Evil Dead movie. The way the chainsaw was introduced and her losing her hand....man I lost it in the theater. This was a good horror movie but I'm not sure how I feel about a sequel because for some reason I can't see it being done without it being part humorous just like the original ED2 and me personally I wouldn't wanna see that.

 

[redhawk23]

That's my problem with a lot of people and their views on horror films. I don't get or agree with the opinion that EVERY horror film's main goal is to scare people. I guess some people just like cliche scenes where things jump out at the characters. Just like the overused cat jumping across their face scene that's been used in numerous films.

If you've seen the original film, you should know that being "scary" wasn't this films goal. Like you said DACrowe, it's more trying to gross people out and make them cringe. I think the movie did that fairly well.

Or you know, the original film just kind of failed in that respect. Bruce Campbell especially has spoken and written, most recently in a short piece for EW, about how whatever charms the original film holds for other people, it didn't work as what they were going for.

 

[redhawk23]

I really think the whole series can be found guilty of gratuity for entertainment. Not to the level of, say, Funny Games (which feels more in response to dumb slashers or torture porn), but certainly on the level of Cabin in the Wood's critique. ****, the first 30 minutes may as well have been a remake of ED as well.

All four Evil Dead films take pleasure in punishing their characters and watching them suffer. This may be easier to digest in the past as all the characters in The Evil Dead (1981) and Evil Dead II are ciphers, but we are still laughing at their misery.

And in terms of "rape" or sexuality, the scene in the original is obviously meant to titillate, hence the gratuitous nudity. It also is presented with same tongue-in-cheek mischievously devious tone as the rest of the film.

And even if it is "unexpected" in ED1, ED2 features Ash willingly cutting his girlfriend's head in half after told that his lover "suffers in torment." He just tells the head to shut up at that accusation. Then, in Army of Darkness, Sheila is basically raped by Evil Ash and becomes a Deadite. Just because it is less graphic than the '81 or '13 films, does not mean it is not a terrible implication. When confronted with Sheila the Deadite, Ash only deadpans and mocks her as opposed to showing regret over her turning.

If one wants to start picking apart sexuality in this series, all three (and Raimi himself) are very vulnerable to the critique. The '13 film is just more of the same be it tree rapes or forced lesbian kissing/mutilation.

Just a thought.

Yes the Raimi films are fairly culpable in these respects, and I'm not particularly a huge fan of them either. Raimi himself has spoken about his regret about some of the scenes included and the way they were presented.

But as to the tone of the tree rape in the first film, I think you seriously need to rewatch that.

 

[Balthus Dire]

In my showing, people were laughing at parts they probably weren't supposed to be laughing at. For example

Spoiler

when "Ash's" girlfriend comes to after getting nail gunned and having her arm shot off, the audience was laughing at it.

So, in a weird way, they might've replicated those weird humorous moments, even if I personally didnt think they were funny.