Evolution doesn't just skip races

[celldog]

By the way Jag.....that was a pretty rascist statement about me being "supposedly" black. What?? All black people think one way??? We're all followers of Farrahkan and Sharpton??

I know a lot of black people just like me. You should get out more.

 

[TheSumOfGod]

Still thinking of me, eh??? Anyway, if you knew anything about me you'd know I don't believe in the macro-evolution of Darwin. It's never been proven. Never has it been proven that one species jumped to a totally different one. The fossil record has never found the "missing link". Yes....there is micro-evolution "within' in a species (i.e. adaptions to environments..etc). But never a snake to a bird or a monkey to a human.

Why is everyone so surprised that Darwin's theory yeilds to racist dogma anyway?? IT IS RASCIST! It's predicated on survival of the fittest. Superior dominates inferior. He did plenty of work in which he believed the dark skinned man was slow and dumb.

But.......you guys are too smart to believe in Darwin right??

Oh yes, and there's SO MUCH f***ing scientific evidence for CREATIONISM, right? Oh, wait, there ISN'T, because it's a MYTHOLOGICAL FAIRY TALE! That's right!

It always amuses me when creationists try to put down the theory of evolution using "scientific evidence", yet their own belief system is based on f*** all that is real and tangible. Oh the irony.

 

[Danalys]

Well... the elves are presented as being an immortal, superior race, and they're all white with blonde hair and blue eyes, so...

you judge what is superior yourself. besides he went throught a war himself and it effected him, i guess.

 

[Danalys]

resently scientists found new fossils between fish and amphibians. they found them by using evolutionary theory to predict where to dig. it gets results. adds to our understanding of what animals were dieing where and what they were like. they add to our understanding of the evolutionary tree of life. which is a pictoral representation of our knowledge so far.

 

[Tangled Web]

Yeah but it's still funny how all these KKK guys are rallying around LOTR being racist when Tolkien was a Catholic and the books can be seen as anti-Nazi. ****in Sauramon is pretty much Hitler and the Orchs were freaking Nazi storm troopers.

 

[Whirlysplat]

So I'm arguing with racists on the Stormfront website.

We've gotten around to the whole thing of how they think white people are naturally superior. I've pointed out that in order for white people to be superior, evolution would have had to have just skipped the other races. Which is just ridiculous. In addition, in order for their "we're superior" theory to work, evoltution would have to take a few hundred years. One of them actually said this, that evolution takes place over a few hundred years. Now, obviously, he just conveniently believes this because it fits in with his racist beliefs.

But it's completely and utterly stupid. There is NO proof of this. I've asked, and I'm sure they're ready to post insane propeganda. Another stupid argument was that the fact that there are many breeds of dogs is proof of evolution taking place in a small period of time. Um, no.

So yeah, I was just wondering what kind of hard facts I could just throw in their faces to humiliate them. And any other tidbits of info that would be helpful in knocking down the contradictory and hypocritical stack of cards that the belief in white supremacy is.

David Suzuki - Look him up. Basically the expressed Phenotype (say blond/blue eyed) doesn't mean the individuals genotype isn't more like that from another race phenotypically (say afro/black skin). Not really such a thing as race at that level. Look him up he is one cool guy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Suzuki

- Whirly

 

[kainedamo]

I need help with one of their posts because I'm just sick of arguing with them and I'm going around in circles.

The post I'm having trouble with is on the previous page.

 

[Danalys]

say that evolution is dependant on environment and it is only success in a certain environment that qualifies as fittest. since the world has many different environments different races each evolving solutions to those environments are required. evolution of one species doesn't stop because of another going to another environment this is why each of darwins finches on the galopados islands were equally fit but different. they all came from one species of finch originally. it was isolation that lead to specilisation. reintergration is part of survival aswell. you get the best of both world eventualy. that is the fittest. all extra mutations are subject to a new environment. selection begins again.

 

[hippie_hunter]

So, what's more racist then? The American government acknowledging that black people need help, or Bush trying to take away affirmative action?

I am 100% opposed to affirmative action. It's reverse racism and sexism. Race and sex should have no factor in getting a job, going to school, etc.

 

[Sentinel X]

Stormfront people are hilarious...Im always debunking there stupid theorie with ease...but they still think they are right ....and they also think that ALL antis are literally mentally depreived...

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

There is NO proof of this.

Untrue, Magoo.
It's known that Americans were smaller only hundreds of years ago. Then they all got huge.

 

[The Kid]

someone post this link at stormfront

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IldiAYhabIw

 

[kainedamo]

Could someone sign up and argue on my behalf? I'm kinda fed up and tired of them. At the same time, I don't want them to think they've won the argument. It's just... I'm tired of arguing with them.

 

[terry78]

All of you need to stop worshipping those white devils and start the revolution. Televised, of course.

 

[AznBABYBANDIT]

huh?

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

If you are to look at things realistically,white people simply rule the world.In that sence,they think they are superior,since a white man can do anything he wants.Think about it,it may not be true,but its a unwritten rule.

 

[celldog]

Darwin's theories are not racist. In the wrong hands they can be twisted to seem racist.

The Bible is not racist, but in the wrong hands it can be twisted to seem racist.

The Lord of The Rings is not racist but (I **** you not) there is a forum at SF saying that LOTR promotes White Supremecy.

Consider this quote written by Darwin in 1881: "The more civilized so-called Caucasian races have beaten the Turkish hollow in the struggle for existence. Looking to the world at no very distant date, what an endless number of lower races will have been eliminated by the higher civilized races throughout the world."
This was written to W. Graham July 3, 1881, Life and Letters of Charles Darwin , vol 1



Yeah....I can see how you'd hold on to Darwin.

 

[celldog]

Oh yes, and there's SO MUCH f***ing scientific evidence for CREATIONISM, right? Oh, wait, there ISN'T, because it's a MYTHOLOGICAL FAIRY TALE! That's right!

It always amuses me when creationists try to put down the theory of evolution using "scientific evidence", yet their own belief system is based on f*** all that is real and tangible. Oh the irony.

How so?

 

[GarudA]

Consider this quote written by Darwin in 1881: "The more civilized so-called Caucasian races have beaten the Turkish hollow in the struggle for existence. Looking to the world at no very distant date, what an endless number of lower races will have been eliminated by the higher civilized races throughout the world."
This was written to W. Graham July 3, 1881, Life and Letters of Charles Darwin , vol 1



Yeah....I can see how you'd hold on to Darwin.

Darwin, by todays standards, would be considered a racist. He did believe that darker races were “lower” then were Europeans (as the majority of his contemporaries did), but he was very liberal in his own time. He was a staunch abolitionist, and was nearly kicked off the Beagle by Captain Fitz-Roy for speaking out against slavery.

Please do take into account of the time frame which Darwin lived in. Darwin was a product of his time. To Darwins eyes, the Aborigine was MUCH more closely related to the Gorilla than Caucasians were. Which of course is not true, but that gives you a idea of the limited information and the lack of technology he had.

 

[Tangled Web]

GarudA did a good job.

I'd also like to add that just because Darwin may have had some racist issues, doesn't meen that natural selection and survival of the fittest is racist.

 

[Phoney Bone]

Sadly it's a waste of time. No matter how right you are and how much sense you make, they're not going to change.

 

[KingOfDreams]

Still thinking of me, eh??? Anyway, if you knew anything about me you'd know I don't believe in the macro-evolution of Darwin. It's never been proven. Never has it been proven that one species jumped to a totally different one. The fossil record has never found the "missing link". Yes....there is micro-evolution "within' in a species (i.e. adaptions to environments..etc). But never a snake to a bird or a monkey to a human.

Why is everyone so surprised that Darwin's theory yeilds to racist dogma anyway?? IT IS RASCIST! It's predicated on survival of the fittest. Superior dominates inferior. He did plenty of work in which he believed the dark skinned man was slow and dumb.

But.......you guys are too smart to believe in Darwin right??

It makes a hell of a lot more sense than a god just waving his/her/it's hand and suddenly a species appears.

 

[KingOfDreams]

Stormfront people are hilarious...Im always debunking there stupid theorie with ease...but they still think they are right

That's exactly what I was talking about.

 

[celldog]

Darwin, by todays standards, would be considered a racist. He did believe that darker races were “lower” then were Europeans (as the majority of his contemporaries did), but he was very liberal in his own time. He was a staunch abolitionist, and was nearly kicked off the Beagle by Captain Fitz-Roy for speaking out against slavery.

Please do take into account of the time frame which Darwin lived in. Darwin was a product of his time. To Darwins eyes, the Aborigine was MUCH more closely related to the Gorilla than Caucasians were. Which of course is not true, but that gives you a idea of the limited information and the lack of technology he had.

By today's standards???? Wow....the lengths you people will go to to hold on to this crap. You are actually giving this guy a pass because he lived in a different time. So, just be cause it was socially acceptable back then, it makes this writing okay?? So, don't be too hard on slave-owners. After all, it was the thing to do in that day. Look...there were white people back then who didn't believe in his doctrine. If every white person thought his way, THEN, I'd even give him pass. "Limited information" is just an excuse for you to hold on to Darwin's teachings. This was his own flawed racist thinking. All men are created equal. There are no "higher" races.

The whole "Master Race" doctrine is another product of Darwin. Hitler used it to the hilt. Planned Parenthood's founder Margaret Sanger was also a believer in this. She believed that inferior dark people should be stopped from procreating!! That's why 85 percent of their "abortion" clinics are in urban neighborhoods!!

Malthusian Eugenics

Margaret Sanger aligned herself with the eugenicists whose ideology prevailed in the early 20th century. Eugenicists strongly espoused racial supremacy and “purity,” particularly of the “Aryan” race. Eugenicists hoped to purify the bloodlines and improve the race by encouraging the “fit” to reproduce and the “unfit” to restrict their reproduction. They sought to contain the “inferior” races through segregation, sterilization, birth control and abortion.
http://www.citizenreviewonline.org/special_issues/population/the_negro_project.htm


All of this and more are spawned from Darwin's racist doctrine.

But you would rather hold on to this because the thought of a creator means that you are accountable to him. And you just can't have that.

 

[celldog]

It makes a hell of a lot more sense than a god just waving his/her/it's hand and suddenly a species appears.

And you know there is not a God how????????