World EW poll about Superman

[avidreader]

wow. that's about the funniest thing ive ever read on these boards.
ya know everyone has their opinion, but i honestly just can't fathom how some people think welling is a better actor than routh. even given routh's limited dialogue, he is a far better actor than welling could ever hope to be both verbally and facially. ive watched plenty of episodes of smallville and while welling is not a horrible actor, he certainly isn't good, even for tv standards. i think many smallville fans must have watched Returns with welling blinders on. i'm just gonna have to chalk it up to a bad case of fanboyitis.

and why is this is the sequel forum?

And you know something, that's about the funniest thing I've ever heard.

 

[Zing79]

This should be fun. I recall a poll much like this before the official casting.
Interestingly enough it was also as lopsided as this is one going to be.

It was fun reading the justifications on why all those people were wrong the first time, and it'll be equally as fun now.

I also seem to recall reading (many MANY times) that once Routh put on the suit, Welling would become an after-thought. Guess it didn't quite work out that way.

And for the record. Welling.

 

[Pickle-El]

Routh....in spades.

Welling is good at what he does. I'm not the least bit curious about how he looks in the suit now. It doesn't matter to me anymore. As a matter of fact, Smallville doesn't mean as much to me as it used to. Though, I still watch it out of habit, and I guess you could say character loyalty. And I do occasionally geek out on episodes like 'Arrow'.

However, Routh is Superman.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

My loyality goes to Routh.

I kinda resent Welling for how he simply turned his back on the opportunity to be the Man of Steel. He was my pick, really......I still think he'd make a good Superman. But, he doesn't want it.......and Routh proved to me he could be the Man. So, Routh> Welling for me.

 

[Zing79]

There was a time when I might have had an inferiority complex over this. My Superman was only on TV. My Superman (as people were prone to saying) would be forgotten when SR came out. His TV show would be cancelled, and his legacy non-existent.

WB spent more in 6 months to promote Routh as Superman then they have in the entire run of Smallville to push Welling, and Welling still wipes the floor with him in every single casual poll there is.

I have no reservation in saying this anymore: Welling is this generations Superman. Routh may have gotten himself a movie (or two or three or whatever), but time and time again we’re shown that in the eye of the public Welling is the man of Steel.

If you’re a big fan of SR and Routh I’m happy for you – but know this: Welling and Smallville are NOT the afterthought you think they are.

Forget Reeve; Routh can’t even make people forget about Welling.

 

[Pickle-El]

There was a time when I might have had an inferiority complex over this. My Superman was only on TV. My Superman (as people were prone to saying) would be forgotten when SR came out. His TV show would be cancelled, and his legacy non-existent.

Some people tend to exaggerate.....it's just lunacy if people said Welling would simply 'be forgotten'. He still has carried the moniker 'Clark Kent' for 6 years now. 100 Episodes. Of course there's no way he'll be forgotten....remembered however, well that's left open to interpretation.

WB spent more in 6 months to promote Routh as Superman then they have in the entire run of Smallville to push Welling,

I wouldn't say that at all....that's highly, HIGHLY debatable. Either way you look at it, Welling had 6 year headstart on anyone as far as getting their new face out there. 25 Million people or so, in the US only, saw SR this summer. The movie was an 'event' flick. So, in the case of getting butts in seats, there were quite a few million that fell for the 'push'. Don't make it sound like the WB doesn't promote Smallville. I live in the heart of Los Angeles. I'm in Burbank, Pasadena, Glendale, Hollywood every day of the week......Trust me, Smallville doesn't lack promotion around here. YMMV. You can't pass a bus through here without Welling's grill attached.

I guess you don't wanna count all those Welling appearances in the 6 years to Routh's 1 summer. (Awards, Preimieres, The View, Ellen or wherever else he's been on, ABC Family specials, etc)

and Welling still wipes the floor with him in every single casual poll there is.

That's great. Brandon has gotten some pretty rad reviews in most casual polls . Same with user reviews, since if we go by casual polls, SR and Brandon Routh were well-received with the general public.

'Every single casual poll there is'.....

have no reservation in saying this anymore: Welling is this generations Superman.

Whatever makes your little heart flutter, is okay with me.

Routh may have gotten himself a movie (or two or three or whatever), but time and time again we’re shown that in the eye of the public Welling is the man of Steel.

This part I can disagree with whole-heartedly. You might use a few online polls with at most 50,000? people voting...I can point you in the direction of 25 Million, and another 22 or so = close to 50 Million people around the globe that experienced, and paid mind you, to see Brandon Routh as Superman.

If you’re a big fan of SR and Routh I’m happy for you – but know this: Welling and Smallville are NOT the afterthought you think they are.

I think Welling will always have a place in the mantle. Though, I think after this summer his place on the 'Superman' heirarchy has slipped down just 1 notch.

Forget Reeve; Routh can’t even make people forget about Welling.

Routh's first starring role, he nabbed the coveted man of steel, and helped breathe life into a dead movie franchise.......more heroics from the Last Son Of Krypton. I'm glad he has the mantle on the big-screen. He's a fan, he's a genuine Iowa boy, and he's the perfect successor to Christopher Reeve in the hearts of the general public.....at least I feel so.

To quote the Hollywood Reporter

This high-wire act would have gone for naught if Routh had not so capably filled the Man of Steel's costume. Like Reeve, he is just right physically, looking at times like the old comic book drawings of Superman

Amen Brutha.

 

[Superman Pwnage]

To be fair, from what I've seen...Brandon seems to pwn Welling in all the Superman polls done Post-SR. Here are some examples off the top of my head:
http://www.bluetights.net/theplanet/showthread.php?t=9362

http://www.bluetights.net/theplanet/showthread.php?t=20189

Some may say that despite BT being the most popular and central \S/ site on the net, it may be biased towards SR. Thats fine. Take a look at this poll from this very forum:

http://superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=240201

On a forum that supposedly as a reputation for disliking SR...Brandon Routh? Winning?

And heres the big Superman poll from last month (which has a function that prohibits multiple voting from the same IP discouraging obsessive ksite fans).

http://www.voote.com/jsp/VoteServerPage.jsp?TransID=RVOTES00&VoteID=425

Brandon Routh wins it. Hmm..

I've seen Welling rank higher than Brandon in polls pertaining to favorite Clark Kent, which is understandable given that Brandon barely played the role for 6 minutes while Tom played it for 6 years. Brandon also played the disguise while Tom played the real person as a teenager.

Smallville will be long off the air by 2009 and an afterthought like Buffy, however I believe people will remember Tom Welling as this generation's Teenage Clark Kent (though I'm hoping Singer makes Bender's part much larger in the sequel just for some competition).


Brandon is Superman. He is cemented into this role. He could be the next Chris Reeve ultimately. I havent seen anyone else who embodies the character with such respect in my lifetime.

Sorry, but the truth just needed to be spoken.

Lates.

 

[Sebastos]

Routh > Welling. In my opinon, Welling has some what of a girl face.

 

[Zing79]

To be fair, from what I've seen...Brandon seems to pwn Welling in all the Superman polls done Post-SR. Here are some examples off the top of my head:
http://www.bluetights.net/theplanet/showthread.php?t=9362

http://www.bluetights.net/theplanet/showthread.php?t=20189

Some may say that despite BT being the most popular and central \S/ site on the net, it may be biased towards SR. Thats fine. Take a look at this poll from this very forum:

http://superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=240201

On a forum that supposedly as a reputation for disliking SR...Brandon Routh? Winning?

And heres the big Superman poll from last month (which has a function that prohibits multiple voting from the same IP discouraging obsessive ksite fans).

http://www.voote.com/jsp/VoteServerPage.jsp?TransID=RVOTES00&VoteID=425

Brandon Routh wins it. Hmm..

I've seen Welling rank higher than Brandon in polls pertaining to favorite Clark Kent, which is understandable given that Brandon barely played the role for 6 minutes while Tom played it for 6 years. Brandon also played the disguise while Tom played the real person as a teenager.

Smallville will be long off the air by 2009 and an afterthought like Buffy, however I believe people will remember Tom Welling as this generation's Teenage Clark Kent (though I'm hoping Singer makes Bender's part much larger in the sequel just for some competition).


Brandon is Superman. He is cemented into this role. He could be the next Chris Reeve ultimately. I havent seen anyone else who embodies the character with such respect in my lifetime.

Sorry, but the truth just needed to be spoken.

Lates.

You may have spoken something, and it may or may not have come from a place emanating in the lower half of our body as opposed to your brain. Truth 101. It must be fact. It must come from a place of undeniable reality. I’m happy you like him, just sorry to tell you he’s not making people forget about that ‘other guy’.

Sorry, but THAT truth just needed to be spoken.

 

[Sebastos]

Welling is Clark Kent, not Superman.

 

[Superman Pwnage]

You may have spoken something, and it may or may not have come from a place emanating in the lower half of our body as opposed to your brain. .

Most likely not. I wasnt the one with that hilarious 'inferiority complex' post.

just sorry to tell you he’s not making people forget about that ‘other guy’..

I never said they would. People still remember Dean Cain. C'mon, that speaks volumes.

Obviously, just like the Buffy fanbase, there will still be fans of the series frequenting the boards and remembering their show long after it ends.

 

[Bruce_Wayne29]

Routh's first starring role, he nabbed the coveted man of steel, and helped breathe life into a dead movie franchise.......more heroics from the Last Son Of Krypton. I'm glad he has the mantle on the big-screen. He's a fan, he's a genuine Iowa boy, and he's the perfect successor to Christopher Reeve in the hearts of the general public.....at least I feel so.

He was chosen because the director of the movie intended to remake the original movie from A to Z and he needed a Reeve clone and that's what he got. No diss to Brandon as I like him as a person and respect him as he seems to be a nice humble guy but that's why he was chosen and he's the first one to admit it. And that's why some fans want to proclaim him Chris's sucessor because in their minds if he looks like him and acts him well hell...then he is the definitive Superman. Well that and because it would be too hard for them to swallow their pride and admit the movie wasn't what they thought it would be.
Chris didn't get his praise for his look or because he copied those who came before him. He did an original take on the character, much like Tom does.
Hell even Dean Cain (as bad as he was as Superman) at least did an original take on the character, just because of that, he has my respect.
As far as the general public feeling Brandon is Superman it's more of a fan's dream than anything. In my country the movie was completly trashed by ppl who don't even know Tom Welling. And even though SV is very popular here, most critics completly trashed Brandon's performance for being nothing more than a woodened action figure and Reeve clone.
And to end it what breathed life into a dead franchise was the success of SV with annual profits of more than 200 million dollars and being the most sold and watched Warner Bros. tv show on the globe.

 

[AgentPat]

LOL! Folks, look at the question on that poll:
"Who is more worthy of donning the Superman cape right now?"

The question didn't ask who looks best, who acts best, who's more recognized as, or which incarnation is better. They could have listed Danny DiVito as an option in the poll. Based on the voter's own yard stick - whatever that may be of course - the poll simply asks, Who is more worthy?

As of right now, 61% of almost 21 THOUSAND votes registered selected Welling. Come. ON! If you haven't already done so, ask yourselves why that might be?

"He's not Superman, he's just Clark Kent. WTF?"
Okay, lets start with the obvious. EW is a magazine that's about as far from being "Superman esoteric" as Architectural digest. (Hyperbole to make a point.) Look at the people that would be voting in such a poll. For everybody that would call themselves a "Superman fan," I bet a huge percentage wouldn't know what "Crisis on Infinite Earths" was if it hit them over the head. My point? It's a general entertainment magazine and site. That means folks don't sweat the small stuff. To the GENERAL PUBLIC, Tom Welling plays Clark Kent and Clark Kent is Superman. Connect the dots in between. Some Superman "fans" may take issue with this, but Warner Bros. own sanctioned marketing never had a problem with it...



Based on data posted by the National Association of Theater Owners, the average price for a movie ticket in 2005 (full data for 2006 isn't available yet) was $6.41. If the price went up by about 25 cents (likely), then SR sold about 30M admission tickets domestically so far. Compare that to the five million or so viewers per week SV has attracted (domestically) for the last six years. I have no idea what the attrition rate is, or how much repeat business SR got during its run, but I'm quite sure SV hasn't had the SAME five million people viewing it every week since SV started.

My point? Lots and LOTS of people have at least heard of SV. Non viewers probably think, "teeny bopper Superman show," or something along those lines. Others may have seen an episode or two, and while they may not know his name, they recognize the show's star when his picture shows up in TV Guide or elsewhere. "Superman" is often written somewhere in the associated text. Many people recognize this face, and they probably think "Superman"...

So what does all that have to do with the actual poll question? Well... not much. But it might define some people's yard stick just a tad, not to mention the difference - or lack thereof - that the general public sees between two actors who are ostensibly playing the same role.

Next?

"SV fans have spammed the votes, which is why the results are skewed."
Yeah, and SV fans are the only ones who surf the Net, go to movies, and have the time to do such nonsense. C'mon peeps. The poll site lets folks vote more than once and doesn't discriminate based on choice. Like two sports teams playing against each other in the rain, both are at equal advantage/disadvantage. American Idol, anybody? Furthermore, to say that one fanship is more vocal than another kind of defeats the counter argument, no? I mean, people love good things, but things are considered good *because* they're loved. Swap the word "good" for "worthy," and we may be onto something here.

Next?

"Polls on BT's, SHH, SHP, etc., show Routh wins."
LOL! Fab. 'Cause we all know that 197 votes here, 46 votes there, and 151 votes on the Hype are representative of the general public at large. This is the same general public that voted 28 THOUSAND times at CNN (Welling 55%) and 66 THOUSAND times at MSNBC (Welling 74%). But that's okay; we'll just post links to sites most of the movie-going audience wouldn't know from a hole in the wall, or we'll hope readers will believe 412 to 316 votes on a general voting site is a landslide. Righto!

Whatever, gang. The ultimate answer to the question I suggested everybody ask themselves above may have more to do with SR than SV, but that debate has raged on for months, and I have no interest in dredging it up again. We've kind of beat that sucker into the ground anyway.

Anyhoo... the fact that some geeks see Welling as a lame version of Clark Kent on a dumb TV show, and Routh as the perfect Superman/Clark Kent in feature films today, doesn't change the fact that the general public *apparently* sees a more worthy actor than what the geeks think, and the fact that that actor hasn't even worn the costume yet speaks volumes.

<- Considers herself a "geek," but not a stereotypical one.


BTW, hi Kane. Back so soon?

 

[The Sage]

This is the war that doesn't end, yes it goes on and on my friend. Some people,
started fighting it not knowing what it was, and they'll continue fighting it forever just because....

This is the war that doesn't end, yes it goes on and on my friend. Some people, started fighting it not knowing what it was, and they'll continue fighting it forever just because....

This is the war that doesn't end, yes it goes on and on my friend. Some people, started fighting it not knowing what it was, and they'll continue fighting it forever just because....

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

i think many smallville fans must have watched Returns with welling blinders on. i'm just gonna have to chalk it up to a bad case of fanboyitis.

and why is this is the sequel forum?

Pot meet kettle.......

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

LOL! Folks, look at the question on that poll:
"Who is more worthy of donning the Superman cape right now?"

The question didn't ask who looks best, who acts best, who's more recognized as, or which incarnation is better. They could have listed Danny DiVito as an option in the poll. Based on the voter's own yard stick - whatever that may be of course - the poll simply asks, Who is more worthy?

As of right now, 61% of almost 21 THOUSAND votes registered selected Welling. Come. ON! If you haven't already done so, ask yourselves why that might be?

"He's not Superman, he's just Clark Kent. WTF?"
Okay, lets start with the obvious. EW is a magazine that's about as far from being "Superman esoteric" as Architectural digest. (Hyperbole to make a point.) Look at the people that would be voting in such a poll. For everybody that would call themselves a "Superman fan," I bet a huge percentage wouldn't know what "Crisis on Infinite Earths" was if it hit them over the head. My point? It's a general entertainment magazine and site. That means folks don't sweat the small stuff. To the GENERAL PUBLIC, Tom Welling plays Clark Kent and Clark Kent is Superman. Connect the dots in between. Some Superman "fans" may take issue with this, but Warner Bros. own sanctioned marketing never had a problem with it...



Based on data posted by the National Association of Theater Owners, the average price for a movie ticket in 2005 (full data for 2006 isn't available yet) was $6.41. If the price went up by about 25 cents (likely), then SR sold about 30M admission tickets domestically so far. Compare that to the five million or so viewers per week SV has attracted (domestically) for the last six years. I have no idea what the attrition rate is, or how much repeat business SR got during its run, but I'm quite sure SV hasn't had the SAME five million people viewing it every week since SV started.

My point? Lots and LOTS of people have at least heard of SV. Non viewers probably think, "teeny bopper Superman show," or something along those lines. Others may have seen an episode or two, and while they may not know his name, they recognize the show's star when his picture shows up in TV Guide or elsewhere. "Superman" is often written somewhere in the associated text. Many people recognize this face, and they probably think "Superman"...

So what does all that have to do with the actual poll question? Well... not much. But it might define some people's yard stick just a tad, not to mention the difference - or lack thereof - that the general public sees between two actors who are ostensibly playing the same role.

Next?

"SV fans have spammed the votes, which is why the results are skewed."
Yeah, and SV fans are the only ones who surf the Net, go to movies, and have the time to do such nonsense. C'mon peeps. The poll site lets folks vote more than once and doesn't discriminate based on choice. Like two sports teams playing against each other in the rain, both are at equal advantage/disadvantage. American Idol, anybody? Furthermore, to say that one fanship is more vocal than another kind of defeats the counter argument, no? I mean, people love good things, but things are considered good *because* they're loved. Swap the word "good" for "worthy," and we may be onto something here.

Next?

"Polls on BT's, SHH, SHP, etc., show Routh wins."
LOL! Fab. 'Cause we all know that 197 votes here, 46 votes there, and 151 votes on the Hype are representative of the general public at large. This is the same general public that voted 28 THOUSAND times at CNN (Welling 55%) and 66 THOUSAND times at MSNBC (Welling 74%). But that's okay; we'll just post links to sites most of the movie-going audience wouldn't know from a hole in the wall, or we'll hope readers will believe 412 to 316 votes on a general voting site is a landslide. Righto!

Whatever, gang. The ultimate answer to the question I suggested everybody ask themselves above may have more to do with SR than SV, but that debate has raged on for months, and I have no interest in dredging it up again. We've kind of beat that sucker into the ground anyway.

Anyhoo... the fact that some geeks see Welling as a lame version of Clark Kent on a dumb TV show, and Routh as the perfect Superman/Clark Kent in feature films today, doesn't change the fact that the general public *apparently* sees a more worthy actor than what the geeks think, and the fact that that actor hasn't even worn the costume yet speaks volumes.

<- Considers herself a "geek," but not a stereotypical one.


BTW, hi Kane. Back so soon?

excellent post Pat. Some just cant stand the fact that even after the mediocre Superman film, Welling is still more popular in a lot of respects.

I mean if some of these people are gonna post a poll from BT as evidence to the contrary, they might as well say they polled Routh's family because it's about as accurate. But I know, I know: CNN, MSNBC, and EW are skewed SO heavily by SV fans, right? LOL

 

[The Sage]

Who gives a ****?

No, seriously. Who cares who's the best? As long as I'm getting my healthy dosage of Superman mythos, with good plot, good usage of powers, good characterizations, good visuals, I'm a happy Superman fan. If you ask me, both SV and SR have the same set of problems, so arguing which is better and who's the better Superman actor is pointless.

 

[AgentPat]

This is the war that doesn't end, yes it goes on and on my friend. Some people, started fighting it not knowing what it was, and they'll continue fighting it forever just because....

This is the war that doesn't end, yes it goes on and on my friend. Some people, started fighting it not knowing what it was, and they'll continue fighting it forever just because....

This is the war that doesn't end, yes it goes on and on my friend. Some people, started fighting it not knowing what it was, and they'll continue fighting it forever just because....

Everybody sing it with me now...

We'll meet again, don't know where, don't know when
But I'm sure we'll meet again some sunny day
Keep smiling through, just the way you used to do
Till the blue skies chase the dark clouds far away

Now, won't you please say "Hello" to the folks that I know
Tell 'em it won't be long
'cause they'd be happy to know that when you saw me go
I was singing this song

We'll meet again, don't know where, don't know when
But I'm sure we'll meet again some sunny day
Keep smiling through, just the way you used to do
Till the blue skies chase the dark clouds far away...

Rinse and repeat.

 

[Pickle-El]

Who gives a ****?

Ultimately, the only question really worth pondering about when any of us decide to speak out loud...

 

[The Sage]

Ultimately, the only question really worth pondering about when any of us decide to speak out loud...

Indeed.

I tell you what. To all of you...for the sake of maintaining peace, cohesion, and prosperity among Superman fans here, I will be your Superman! Yes it's true, it's very true.

 

[Serene]

Who gives a ****?.

Heh.. well, apparently a lot of people.

It's funny but the Routh/SR supporters will always be annoyed that there are still so many people that find Welling a far superior Superman than what was offered.
I think that Welling fans are just annoyed that Routh fans continue to bash Welling with every discussion of Superman that comes up. It's like they're fixated on him.

Perfectly understandable, I might add.

 

[Zing79]

Most likely not. I wasnt the one with that hilarious 'inferiority complex' post.

And that changes the fact that you're post was nowhere near the 'truth' how exactly?

I never said they would. People still remember Dean Cain. C'mon, that speaks volumes.

And people still remember Reeve too. Argument goes both ways.

 

[Zing79]

Some people tend to exaggerate.....it's just lunacy if people said Welling would simply 'be forgotten'. He still has carried the moniker 'Clark Kent' for 6 years now. 100 Episodes. Of course there's no way he'll be forgotten....remembered however, well that's left open to interpretation.



I wouldn't say that at all....that's highly, HIGHLY debatable. Either way you look at it, Welling had 6 year headstart on anyone as far as getting their new face out there. 25 Million people or so, in the US only, saw SR this summer. The movie was an 'event' flick. So, in the case of getting butts in seats, there were quite a few million that fell for the 'push'. Don't make it sound like the WB doesn't promote Smallville. I live in the heart of Los Angeles. I'm in Burbank, Pasadena, Glendale, Hollywood every day of the week......Trust me, Smallville doesn't lack promotion around here. YMMV. You can't pass a bus through here without Welling's grill attached.

I guess you don't wanna count all those Welling appearances in the 6 years to Routh's 1 summer. (Awards, Preimieres, The View, Ellen or wherever else he's been on, ABC Family specials, etc)







That's great. Brandon has gotten some pretty rad reviews in most casual polls . Same with user reviews, since if we go by casual polls, SR and Brandon Routh were well-received with the general public.

'Every single casual poll there is'.....

Whatever makes your little heart flutter, is okay with me.



This part I can disagree with whole-heartedly. You might use a few online polls with at most 50,000? people voting...I can point you in the direction of 25 Million, and another 22 or so = close to 50 Million people around the globe that experienced, and paid mind you, to see Brandon Routh as Superman.



I think Welling will always have a place in the mantle. Though, I think after this summer his place on the 'Superman' heirarchy has slipped down just 1 notch.



Routh's first starring role, he nabbed the coveted man of steel, and helped breathe life into a dead movie franchise.......more heroics from the Last Son Of Krypton. I'm glad he has the mantle on the big-screen. He's a fan, he's a genuine Iowa boy, and he's the perfect successor to Christopher Reeve in the hearts of the general public.....at least I feel so.

To quote the Hollywood Reporter



Amen Brutha.

Instead of going point by point, I’ll just throw out a few comments and thoughts:
1. Justin of BT believed SV would be long forgotten thanks to SR. He was one of many. Just because you believed that wasn’t possible doesn’t mean it wasn’t the prevailing opinion.
2. LA -- your area -- is not representivate of the rest of the North America. What you see might not be what I see. And I saw LOTS of SR leading up to the film. I’ve never once seen an SV billboard. Not once.
3. As has already been pointed out. You have no way of tracking how many individuals have seen SV over the last 6 years. For all you know the same number of people that saw SR (if not more) might have seen one episode of Smallville.

You love the movie, and that’s cool. I can dig that. But Routh hasn’t made people forget about Welling. SR has had no impact on SV. And Routh clearly still has a long way to go to proclaim himself the undisputed title holder of live action Superman.

 

[Superman Pwnage]

This is the same general public that voted 28 THOUSAND times at CNN (Welling 55%) and 66 THOUSAND times at MSNBC (Welling 74%).

And this is where your arguement fails you. When I look at that CNN poll, personally even I would have voted for Welling compared to the pathetic contenders he takes on in it, its a no brainer.

This was before Brandon was even cast. Personally I only view polls post-SR as relevant and fair game, as I stated previously.


I'm not trying to discredit Welling, hes had a good 6ish years to do his thing, but Smallville fans have to also face the fact that Brandon will likely continue to be Superman in the film franchaise long after Smallville ends.

I'm sure certain Smallville fans seemed confident that there would be no sequel to SR and convinced themselves of that, yet here we are...

While Smallville's journey is headed towards an end, Superman's journey in the films is ultimately beginning and gen. public perception (which I still don't buy as Welling-favored despite his familiarity for 6 years as opposed to Brandon's 4 months) has been known to flucuate easily.


I only became a Superman fan about a year ago and I think it was the best time. I like this franchaise, I like the potential of a badass action based sequel with a villian they describe as the greatest villian of the comics.

I even like the Son becoming the Father:

I respect what Smallville has done or tried to do, so I'm not trying to bash Welling, just presenting my arguement from this perspective.

If anything, at the very least Brandon has rocked the foundation that Welling has established for 5 years and caused a great divide. Personally, thats more than I would have expected given Brandon's spotlight being only about 4 months so far and gives me hope for the greater impact he can make in the future.

 

[AgentPat]

Um... Folks? Let's refocus on the topic at hand for a moment, shall we? That of couse is the current EW poll between Welling and Routh AS Superman:

Who is more worthy of donning the Superman cape right now?
61% Tom Welling, Smallville
39% Brandon Routh, Superman Returns
Total votes: 20,930

Every other argument is irrelevant to the question. Who's been around longer, who's most recognized, and who'll be remembered best or why is completely moot to the fact that 61% of almost 21,000 votes logged on a general entertainment site right now voted Tom Welling more "worthy" of being Superman than Brandon Routh.

That's the ONLY "fact" in this thread. Everything else is opinion.

Ah, the Internet. It's a fun place.