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Hey you know I loved about this movie that others apparently hated !? The Collector, Del Toro looked great and I can't wait for GOTG.
I've seen Thor once, I've seen The Avengers twice, I have an above-average long-term memory, and I sporadically discuss these movies on forums, so I probably remember more plot details than the median viewer.
If the movie doesn't work for people who have not seen an MCU movie before never mind all the relevant MCU movies multiple times, then the movie doesn't work in my opinion. There are plenty of sequels out there that can be appreciated by someone who didn't see the original.
Hey you know I loved about this movie that others apparently hated !? The Collector, Del Toro looked great and I can't wait for GOTG.
Above average long term memory? You couldn't remember Selvig from the Avengers movie and he was a huge part of it.
That's utter crap. You don't read a book 2 or see a movie 2 and know everything without book 1 or movie 1. They are sequels for a reason. If it was a Thor stand alone movie, I'd agree but every trailer, tv spot and interview lets you know that this is a continuation. Perhaps they should have a 5 minute "In case you haven't seen Thor or TA, here's a summary" for viewers with that mindthink but I hardly think it would appeal to the mass majority.
Hey you know I loved about this movie that others apparently hated !? The Collector, Del Toro looked great and I can't wait for GOTG.
I made a conscious effort to avoid the spoilers and previews for this movie. As a general point I think the previews for some comic book movies are too spoilery, I can't speak for the thor 2 previews since I deliberately avoided most of them
I understand what you mean. We agree that it's important.I think building up Asgard as a society and building a sense of place advances the plot. It helps immerse me (presumably others too) in the movie, in the world. Maybe I'm not using the word plot correctly, but for me proper world building is advancing the plot.
We can argue that maybe Selvig advances the plot of the MCU as a whole, but he doesn't advance the plot of Thor 2. IMO, the latter is more important.
Hey you know I loved about this movie that others apparently hated !? The Collector, Del Toro looked great and I can't wait for GOTG.
Mjölnir;27135445 said:He does advance the plot in that he didn't only go crazy, he got some insight into a cosmic phenomenon (the one being exploited by the villain). He's providing crucial information to stop Malekith. That's why I'd sooner cut Darcy than Selvig as she is just the funny sidekick.
I admit I'm biased with regards to Darcy, aside from the fact I find Kat Dennings attractive which we've gone over, I don't like Selvig. I'm an astrophysicist for a living, and characters like Erik Selvig, Steve Urkel, etc bother me when I see them on my screen. It's not how people I know and work with behave and think, it's an offensive and insulting stereotype. I don't like the scientist stock character, and it also bothered me in Pacific Rim and in Agents of Shield.
I admit I'm biased with regards to Darcy, aside from the fact I find Kat Dennings attractive which we've gone over, I don't like Selvig. I'm an astrophysicist for a living, and characters like Erik Selvig, Steve Urkel, etc bother me when I see them on my screen. It's not how people I know and work with behave and think, it's an offensive and insulting stereotype. I don't like the scientist stock character, and it also bothered me in Pacific Rim and in Agents of Shield.
Come on, dude. We've all had jobs that are portrayed in movies in a stereotypical manner. Do you really think servers, taxi drivers, military personnel, etc get ash flash when their jobs are shown in a negative light in a movie? Also with nationalities. I'm German and there are numerous movies where the villain is German. Do I complain about it? No. Suck it up.
Come on, dude. We've all had jobs that are portrayed in movies in a stereotypical manner. Do you really think servers, taxi drivers, military personnel, etc get ash flash when their jobs are shown in a negative light in a movie? Also with nationalities. I'm German and there are numerous movies where the villain is German. Do I complain about it? No. Suck it up.
Mjölnir;27135469 said:I agree. The quirkiness of del Toro made me think that GotG will be very entertaining space opera if the rest falls in line.
I admit I'm biased with regards to Darcy, aside from the fact I find Kat Dennings attractive which we've gone over, I don't like Selvig. I'm an astrophysicist for a living, and characters like Erik Selvig, Steve Urkel, etc bother me when I see them on my screen. It's not how people I know and work with behave and think, it's an offensive and insulting stereotype. I don't like the scientist stock character, and it also bothered me in Pacific Rim and in Agents of Shield.
NERD!!!!! :') Just kidding, wow that's actually impressive. I'm a paramedic :')
Mjölnir;27135575 said:I know how that can be. I have an engineering degree in IT and I've also competed at pretty high level in martial arts. I can get annoyed both at people trying to handle computers and at people fighting in movies. Sometimes I can handle it fine, other times I can't.
I find that it's generally easier for me to handle it in a movie like TDW where things isn't taken too seriously and it doesn't even try to be realistic. When a movie goes for more realism and fails I react stronger.
I thought the black hole bombs in this movie made a lot of sense. For those unfamiliar, small black holes evaporate very quickly, so it's plausible a futuristic society would build black hole grenades that can suck you up in the first few seconds then be harmless after that.
What do you think of Skye the world's greatest hacker?
The Day After Tomorrow always makes me laugh because climatologists would lose their minds over what was going on Same with The Core.
If the humor is overused and is inserted in scenes that should be serious, it kills tension and that IS an issue. IM 3 had this issue in places.This is the last thing I'll say about the humor.
This is the only place I've seen people bring it up. All of the bloggers/youtubers/critics I follow have liked/loved it and nobody mentions the comedy as a problem. I have two friends who get into early screenings all the time for their jobs and none of them mentioned the humor as a detriment either. In fact, one of them even said they wanted a bit MORE humor like the first film. Not to mention the general consensus from critics so far is surprisingly strong. 83% with over 30 good reviews. I don't see it dropping under 75% myself.
So what I'm trying to say is this website has people mentioning problems with movies old and new and in between I've never heard before from anywhere in my life long love of movies. What I'm saying is, this place is a bit odd as far as opinions go.
Why are people using Iron Man 3 as a key template for comparisons?