Fan Review Thread SPOILERS INSIDE - Part 1

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I actually enjoyed it.lol

Though I wish that they would have used Bor more better for the action scenes...i mean it would have been nice to see him to do more in that short introductory battle.

Also, I wish they would have allowed Odin to see more action. For the guy that's supposedly one of the most powerful beings in the Universe, he doesn't really come off as that strong from what we've seen.


Despite make up, and a still great and fierce vocal performance, Hopkins was actually looking haggard to me here. They may have to recast by Thor3. I hope not, but he was looking... less vigorous for sure.
 
The Bor sequence was great. Choreography in the fighting was much better than any other part in the film. Just hated when we got the closeup of Bor, he begins to talk and then that's it .....

The Born sequence was much better than Odin vs The Frost Giants flash black, it was down right awesome.
 
Despite make up, and a still great and fierce vocal performance, Hopkins was actually looking haggard to me here. They may have to recast by Thor3. I hope not, but he was looking... less vigorous for sure.

Why would they need to recast? Odin is old and wants to retire. That's been made clear. Tack on his imprisonment by Loki and Hopkins weakening health and age is perfect for the Odin they are presenting in the MCU.
 
Yeah, I think it was intentional as well to show that Odin is no longer the powerful being that he was once.

I think they even made a note of it on how Thor mentioned that Odin didn't join the battles when they were in the courtyard watching everyone train...and when Odin and Thor were arguing about Jane's imprisonment, you could feel that Odin was really drained...more so due to the loss of his wife.
 
Why would they need to recast? Odin is old and wants to retire. That's been made clear. Tack on his imprisonment by Loki and Hopkins weakening health and age is perfect for the Odin they are presenting in the MCU.

(Tenth Doctor voice) Well...

I guess you're right. IF that's the path they take. I'm not sure if Loki imprisoning Odin is what is intimated by
Loki taking Odin's form to trick Thor into leaving Asgard for Earth and Jane. I actually think Loki has had some eye opening moments with regards to Thor and Odin in the film. Things that may start to change his mind about some things.

But your idea does mean Hopkins age won't be a detriment to him staying in the role. I would be saddened by him leaving. I just thought he looked so awesome in the first film, and in this one he seemed much more frail. The costuming was pulling a little more weight this time in convincing me that Odin was a powerful ruler, ect.
 
Curious, what do you guys think Loki's views are of Thor at the end of the film? Do you think he intends to leave him alone now that he has Asgard and that Thor has no desire to be King? Or do you think Loki will eventually cause more trouble for Thor later on?

Also, does anyone else think that they could have easily placed Hawkeye in this film during the Earth segment, where instead of Darcy's intern, they could have had Clint come to London due to the disturbances going on.

They could even have him have a few conversations with Selvig regarding on how they both dealt with their experiences being under Loki's control, etc, and it would have been so much better if Hawkeye was the one capping off the dark elves in London rather than Darcy's intern with that car slam.
 
Curious, what do you guys think Loki's views are of Thor at the end of the film? Do you think he intends to leave him alone now that he has Asgard and that Thor has no desire to be King? Or do you think Loki will eventually cause more trouble for Thor later on?

Also, does anyone else think that they could have easily placed Hawkeye in this film during the Earth segment, where instead of Darcy's intern, they could have had Clint come to London due to the disturbances going on.

They could even have him have a few conversations with Selvig regarding on how they both dealt with their experiences being under Loki's control, etc, and it would have been so much better if Hawkeye was the one capping off the dark elves in London rather than Darcy's intern with that car slam.

At no point in the film did I ever think "Where is Hawkeye?".
 
Curious, what do you guys think Loki's views are of Thor at the end of the film? Do you think he intends to leave him alone now that he has Asgard and that Thor has no desire to be King? Or do you think Loki will eventually cause more trouble for Thor later on?

Also, does anyone else think that they could have easily placed Hawkeye in this film during the Earth segment, where instead of Darcy's intern, they could have had Clint come to London due to the disturbances going on.

They could even have him have a few conversations with Selvig regarding on how they both dealt with their experiences being under Loki's control, etc, and it would have been so much better if Hawkeye was the one capping off the dark elves in London rather than Darcy's intern with that car slam.


When it comes to Loki:

I really think you see Loki a bit taken aback by the honest reactions he gets about his death. I mean, in a way the death of his mother actually shocked him back to reality. His grief was honest, as we saw when Thor came to see him. That was a Loki in pain and his brother came to him with a way to assuage that pain. Then in faking his death, he sees how both Odin and Thor still care deeply for him. Thor honors him in his talk with Odin before he leaves. I would like to see something other that the usual from Loki next time we see him. He's free in Asgard to shceme, but will he choose harmless mischief or malevolence?
 
At no point in the film did I ever think "Where is Hawkeye?".


I always do. But that's me. Taking a whizz? "I wonder what Hawkeye's up to?" Food shopping? "I bet you Hawkeye likes cantaloupe." Watching tv? "Is Hawkeye a BLACKLIST fan, or is he more a SLEEPY HOLLOW type."
 
At no point in the film did I ever think "Where is Hawkeye?".

I meant, since Hawkeye is like the only Avenger who so far has no scheduled appearance until the next Avengers film, I feel like they could have placed him in this film in the role that I just mentioned in order to give him a few more exposure. Plus considering that the first time we saw of him was in the previous thor film, it would have been nice to see him again.
 
Watched this tonight and I'd give it a 5/10. Bout the only thing I think worked was Hiddleston. Everything else was a bit of a mess. Never thought I'd say this, but Taylor was out of his element. Television is where he belongs for now.
No doubt, Tom was the best part of the film. He was great. I agree with the it being a bit of a mess, but I did still like it quite a lot.
 
Curious, what do you guys think Loki's views are of Thor at the end of the film? Do you think he intends to leave him alone now that he has Asgard and that Thor has no desire to be King? Or do you think Loki will eventually cause more trouble for Thor later on?

I actually think what it does is leave room for another antagonist to be the backbone of Thor 3. As good as Hiddleston is Loki is starting to become a crutch for both Thor and Marvel, not unlike RDJ as Iron Man. It's no coincidence the best part of the movie in the middle act which features Loki heavily. That's said there needs to be a shake up of things as well, if they're constantly relying on one character to do the heavy lifting then they're never going to try their hand at bringing someone else into the fold. Malekith is a one dimensional bad guy in comparison.
 
Real good movie in my opinion. Solid 8/10.

My favorite part was the captain America cameo.

Quick question though, how the hell was Natalie Portman able to breathe in that other world? And why didn't she have more realistic "WOW" reactions when she was sent to Asgard?
 
Curious, what do you guys think Loki's views are of Thor at the end of the film? Do you think he intends to leave him alone now that he has Asgard and that Thor has no desire to be King? Or do you think Loki will eventually cause more trouble for Thor later on?

Also, does anyone else think that they could have easily placed Hawkeye in this film during the Earth segment, where instead of Darcy's intern, they could have had Clint come to London due to the disturbances going on.

They could even have him have a few conversations with Selvig regarding on how they both dealt with their experiences being under Loki's control, etc, and it would have been so much better if Hawkeye was the one capping off the dark elves in London rather than Darcy's intern with that car slam.
I wouldn't want Hawkeye being reduced to comic relief. Darcy's intern was comic relief and played that part well. That entire roll was created for Darcy's jokes. You wouldn't want Hawkeye to be the butt of Darcy's jokes right?
 
I meant, since Hawkeye is like the only Avenger who so far has no scheduled appearance until the next Avengers film, I feel like they could have placed him in this film in the role that I just mentioned in order to give him a few more exposure. Plus considering that the first time we saw of him was in the previous thor film, it would have been nice to see him again.

I do think it is a plot hole that Shield did not show up to help.

Maybe they were too busy interrogating Skye and her boyfriend.
 
I wouldn't want Hawkeye being reduced to comic relief. Darcy's intern was comic relief and played that part well. That entire roll was created for Darcy's jokes. You wouldn't want Hawkeye to be the butt of Darcy's jokes right?

Sorry for not being more specific; I meant that I would have wanted Hawkeye to be there, without Darcy's intern there and without Darcy's forced humor being placed on Hawkeye...just cut most of her scenes out and her misplaced humor and give that remaining time to Hawkeye who could have been useful during the Earth scenes helping solve the mystery with his resources and even taking out a few Dark Elves.
 
To be quite frank, I thought this was the weakest Marvel Studios film. That isn't to say that it was a bad movie, because I enjoyed it, but it didn't feel up to snuff with the rest.

Positives

-Tom Hiddleston as Loki was brilliant once again. At this point, you can't make a Thor movie without him. He is Marvel's Joker.

-The final battle was creative and fun.

-Loved seeing more of Asgard. Felt more lived in than in Thor.

-Provided that fantasy world that only exists in Lord of the Rings/Hobbit these days.

-Stellen Skarsgard was hilarious, again.

-Hemsworth is a great Thor. Sadly not given much to work with in this film.

-Captain America cameo was amazing.

-It was a funny movie. Not as laugh out loud as the first but still pretty funny.

-Amusing and fun.


Negatives

-Natalie Portman. Worst part of the movie. Talk about spacing out and doing something for a paycheck.

-Musical score. Forgettable. I bought the soundtrack to the first film. It ranks among the best superhero soundtracks. This was pretty weak.

-The story was bland, I hate to say. Teetering on Green Lantern.

-Generic villain. Malekith is the weakest Marvel Studios villain yet.

-Svartalfheim. Generic Sci-Fi destroyed, volcanic/rocky landscape. Reminded me of Star Trek into Darkness, Mordor, and Prometheus. I was hoping for a bit more creativity.

-Warriors Three and Sif. Minor characters that were overshadowed by Darcy and her boyfriend. This movie is called Thor, not Jane Foster.

-The excessive CGI scenes reminded me of the beginning of MoS and Green Lantern. Looked like a video game. Not a fan of this trend.

-Awkward scenes. Chris O'Dowd completely, 100% wasted.


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Iron Man 3 is the class of 2013 comic films. Really underrated movie.


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Sorry for not being more specific; I meant that I would have wanted Hawkeye to be there, without Darcy's intern there and without Darcy's forced humor being placed on Hawkeye...just cut most of her scenes out and her misplaced humor and give that remaining time to Hawkeye who could have been useful during the Earth scenes helping solve the mystery with his resources and even taking out a few Dark Elves.
Oh I loved Darcy! I want even more of her in the next movie.
 
There is nothing worse in Marvel than Portman and her Foster right now.
 
Saw the movie, and I thought the forum was overly negative on this film because while it isn't the best MCU movie ever, I think it is better than the first movie and pretty solid for the most part. My biggest gripe was that they put too much focus on Darcy and her intern bf, although they didn't turned out as badly as the fan reviews claimed they were. And I also dislike the fact that Sif and the Warriors Three were criminally underused in the movie; they should've been given tons more screentime. In fact, I wish they'd make a spin-off movie with just these four characters having an adventure.

Among the things I love are Hemsworth's performance as Thor, Hiddleston's Loki, the visual imagery of Asgard and the general look of the film, and the attack on Asgard. I think Marvel can certainly make an even better movie, because it is still flawed despite the quality of the film, and I hope they will do everything in their power to make sure the third outing will pull out all the stops. Oh, and do leave the intern at home next time, if you please.

8.25/10
 
I have trouble with the idea of TDW being better then the first film, when the character work and story are so inferior imo. And when Is say the character work is inferior, I like a lot that is there, there just isn't that much for anyone other then Loki.
 
I have trouble with the idea of TDW being better then the first film, when the character work and story are so inferior imo. And when Is say the character work is inferior, I like a lot that is there, there just isn't that much for anyone other then Loki.

Agreed; they should have really played more with the possibility of Thor being troubled by learning of how Bor had essentially wiped out the entire Dark Elves from existence in order to secure peace, given that Thor didn't like the idea of destroying the Frost Giants into oblivion.

I feel like Thor's arc of wrestling with the decision on where he could protect the 9 realms best, between being on the Throne or being out there in person should have been one of the cruxes of the film.

In the first film, they made a big deal on how Thor really wanted to become King at the start of the film and how he wasn't ready to do so because of how he didn't see things as clearly as a King should during urgent matters...and now here, we had the roles reversed where Odin's views were clouded.

Heck, I thought it was gold on how they basically had Odin telling Thor that the only difference between him and Malekith is that he (Odin) would emerge victorious. It really showed from there that Odin no longer knew how to rule as an effective king anymore, especially when you had Thor's friends committing treason against him.
 
I have trouble with the idea of TDW being better then the first film, when the character work and story are so inferior imo. And when Is say the character work is inferior, I like a lot that is there, there just isn't that much for anyone other then Loki.
There is no way to develop other characters as they have to met some points - like Thor have to stay on earth in the end to be in avengers (it was illogical as he should stay with his father, grieve for his mother and brother for some time and see everything restored at his home world-thats why all death scenes were meant nothing), Loki should become a villain again (it`s in his character so it`s worked out the best), Sif should be left on sideline as she actually have chemistry with Thor (not gonna have it-he should have NOTHING left on Asgard to ensure Earth/Jane importance) etc, etc. The problem it was heavy handed and uncreative.
 
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