Anno_Domini
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I sure as hell didn't like TAS-M's version of Peter Parker.
Eh, i look at it as one part of a whole. Then'origin' of Spider-Man is not use the first act of the first movie, it's going to encompass the planned trilogy. He's a kid in love, so he breaks his promise. And it's looking like their building up the death of Gwen Stacy for the third film, so there are ramifications for Peter breaking the promise, cementing the concept that with great power comes great responsibility in a tragic, sobering fashion. I actually prefer this approach, the characters come off like actual people instead of Saturday morning carton characters like in raimis films (and I like the raimi films btw).
I honestly don't understand how Peter is a jerk. I fail to see it. He makes some poor choices but all characters do. He's still a teenager and Webb and co. are using that to create a good drama. There is no character I have related more to than Andrew Garfield's Peter Parker.
But it also shows me that Peter learned nothing in the movie. The lessons of responsibility and learning to see what being Spider-Man actually means is null and void because he pushes his growth to the sideline without as much as a second thought. He literally only follows the promise for like, 5 mins film time. It totally contradicted what he was supposed to learn, IMO. Yet another reason it irked me. It irks me more because it is how the movie ends, so I left the film with a bad taste in my mouth from this scene, which hurt the great death scene Capt. Stacy had.
I think the drama in TASM was very mixed. Some of it worked, some of it sucked. One great example of poor drama was after Spider-Man got shot and was sturggling to get to Oscopr, and the stupid crane montage happened. This wasn't the only piece of poor drama in the film. That said, there were plotlines/moments of drama that were done very well. But, it is offset by me with a lot of crappy decisions they also made.
I thought TASM was pretty good, but still cant believe it is beating Raimi's first movie on the poll. Raimi's movie did the origin so perfectly and I felt Peter's relationship with Aunt May and his guilt over Ben's death was better dealt with as well.
I wouldn't say him breaking the promise undermines Capt Stacy's death. Peter's a teenager who just became Spider-Man. Yeah at first he wanted to keep his promise to him but after Gwen came over he probably did what any teenager would do: decide that their going to keep being Spider-Man and keep Gwen safe. He hasn't fully grasped the concept of just how much being a hero is a dangerous thing. That's what we're going to see in TASM 2.
Why does everyone rag on the crane scene so much? It wasn't that bad to me.
No suprise since nostalgia runs high on the internet.
I think most prefer Spidey 2 over Spidey 1, so that will get the vote. 74% of the poll favors Raimi over TASM.
Or it's just a better film.
So does more interesting writing and better characters.
There also seem to be many on the TASM board who prefer SM2 over TASM, but prefer TASM over Raimi's origin. So that argument goes both ways, as some of those Raimi votes would likely go Webb's way if SM2 wasn't on the poll as well.I think most prefer Spidey 2 over Spidey 1, so that will get the vote. 74% of the poll favors Raimi over TASM.
Raimi got three tries to get things right. Webb only one.
If you want to be fair, compare only Raimi's first movie with Webbs first movie.
There also seem to be many on the TASM board who prefer SM2 over TASM, but prefer TASM over Raimi's origin. So that argument goes both ways, as some of those Raimi votes would likely go Webb's way if SM2 wasn't on the poll as well.
It's not simply a case of Webb vs. Raimi for those people who rank them like SM2>TASM>SM1>SM3.