Firefly's Fillion Moves into Castle

[Dark Raven]

So this rumour about one of the couples on a prime time network show breaking up does actually refer to Castle? Or at least it seems to.

Do we really want to watch a show where the two leads aren't working together? Maybe it might be okay for a few episodes, but this kind of thing looks like it's not going to simply end anytime soon. It looks like as big a plot as the Bracken one with Kate's mother's murder or the 3XK killer one which spanned several seasons and was left alone for many episodes even within a season before returning to it. So are we going to go a whole season with the two of them split up?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The preview for next week makes it look like Castle is going to try and win her back, in a funny fashion. Could see it working out. Plus, Alexis in another costume.

 

[Dr Lee]

The problem is that Castle running after Kate just makes him look whipped... She CHOSE to walk away from him, from their life together, to fight another unwinable battle... She had the choice to stay and she still went... That's what's so ****ing annoying about this ****** plot device...

If the stepmom had turned out too be evil and told Kate she'd kill Castle if she stayed with him... Then I could understand Kate walking away... But not this.

Honestly not sure if I wanna watch a whole season of a eunuch Rick chasing after Kate again...specially as the ratings are at the lowest they've ever been, making this season almost certainly the last....

 

[Dark Raven]

They could've really ended it last season. The ending of it seemed like a fitting end. I wonder if now they're running it into the ground and outstaying its welcome. Is it going to have jumped the shark with this latest development?

They could've still had the two of them together but had this new plot in play to keep things interesting. But it might be a while until they revisit it. Even with Castle missing last season, they didn't come back to it for a while, and then when they did it was a bit of an anti climax, as if they hadn't really thought it through properly.

 

[Hunter Rider]

1. New show runners making a creative choice to put their stamp on the show and missing the mark by a mile?

2. Nathan and Stana not getting along so the story is devised to reduce the lovey dovey scenes?

3. Nathan wanted the split so Castle gets to go back to chasing Beckett and being funny and charming while she goes back to her emotional wall from 4 seasons ago?

I wonder which was the reason behind the misstep.

 

[aNarcHy2day]

The relation step back between the two is a bummer but I liked how pacy and exciting the first two episodes wanted to be. Granted if fizzed out pretty quickly towards the end but enjoyable watch, nonetheless.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The problem is that Castle running after Kate just makes him look whipped... She CHOSE to walk away from him, from their life together, to fight another unwinable battle... She had the choice to stay and she still went... That's what's so ****ing annoying about this ****** plot device...

If the stepmom had turned out too be evil and told Kate she'd kill Castle if she stayed with him... Then I could understand Kate walking away... But not this.

Honestly not sure if I wanna watch a whole season of a eunuch Rick chasing after Kate again...specially as the ratings are at the lowest they've ever been, making this season almost certainly the last....

I think that might be the point though. At some point Castle will stand his ground, at least that is what I got from the final scene. Castle will chase her for a bit, but I think he'll grow a backbone, finally.

Also, did anyone find it odd that they brought up Castle's time away, pointing out they still don't know what he was doing for most of the time.

 

[Loki882]

I just flat-out don't want to see this again. I hate it when shows (or films for that matter) pull the whole "well we broke them up so that we can do the classic banter that everyone loved again." Yeah that was fun, for the first FOUR seasons. But we've moved past that and I'm NOT interested in seeing that same old stuff again. You can still have them banter, while being happily married. And no, I don't buy that Beckett would shut him out of this case, after all they've been through/accomplished together, so it feels contrived as well.

Bad move writers, bad move.

 

[Dark Raven]

1. New show runners making a creative choice to put their stamp on the show and missing the mark by a mile?

2. Nathan and Stana not getting along so the story is devised to reduce the lovey dovey scenes?

3. Nathan wanted the split so Castle gets to go back to chasing Beckett and being funny and charming while she goes back to her emotional wall from 4 seasons ago?

I wonder which was the reason behind the misstep.

Are there rumours that they're not getting on in real life on set?

 

[Destructus86]

1. New show runners making a creative choice to put their stamp on the show and missing the mark by a mile?

2. Nathan and Stana not getting along so the story is devised to reduce the lovey dovey scenes?

3. Nathan wanted the split so Castle gets to go back to chasing Beckett and being funny and charming while she goes back to her emotional wall from 4 seasons ago?

I wonder which was the reason behind the misstep.

haven't seen the new season yet but this makes me almost not want to watch. :/ Sounds like they have run out of ideas. Maybe they should just shut it down and Nathan can get back on firefly. :P

 

[Quasimod0]

I was really upset that she made the choice to walk away from Castle. The writers can't leave them as a happy couple for even half of a season before something tears them apart. Like others have said, we already went through like 4 seasons of them not being happily married. Now we have to go back to that?
Plus, it makes Kate look like a huge jerk.

 

[Dark Raven]

So the bracelet that Castle gave her at the start of episode 1, which said "Always" is kind of meaningless now. But I bet if their relationship is restored, they'll hearken back to that and he'll give it to her again and say that she dropped it, and that it should belong on her wrist always as a reminder of their love.

 

[Teelie]

Are there rumours that they're not getting on in real life on set?

Rumors only that I haven't seen confirmed by anyone.

I am with everyone else. Right up until that stupid ending it was a good opener. This split will ruin the show if it goes on for very long. It might already have hurt the show irrevocably.

 

[PyroChamber]

Also I would think she would feel just a little bit of relief knowing that Bracken is dead.

 

[Arrowshieldfan]

If this is truely a break up there would be a interview from show runner explaining why they did they. Since there is none, I think there is more to this than meet the eye, which could a preplanned break up in order to make the new bad guy think they are not together and cannot stop them, but in reality working together

 

[Dark Raven]

If this is truely a break up there would be a interview from show runner explaining why they did they. Since there is none, I think there is more to this than meet the eye, which could a preplanned break up in order to make the new bad guy think they are not together and cannot stop them, but in reality working together

Why would there be the need for her to break up with him while in private though within their own home? I don't think they are actually working together. That would seem a bit silly if it's revealed that in fact they are, given that scene at the end, and even both their reactions, again in private, once Kate walked out the door.

 

[Teelie]

I doubt they would stage a break up in private for the benefit of whoever might be listening in but if they were it would make sense they are assuming their house, Castle's office and maybe even the precinct were bugged.

 

[Dark Raven]

I doubt they would stage a break up in private for the benefit of whoever might be listening in but if they were it would make sense they are assuming their house, Castle's office and maybe even the precinct were bugged.

Even if their house were bugged, why is Kate still tearful once she's out the door? The pretence should've dropped. And really, it's only Castle's step mother who said that Kate would need to choose between pursuing this thing and Castle. As far as any villains are concerned, they don't really care if the two of them are together or not.

 

[Loki882]

Why does she need to "choose" anyway? Castle has shown that he can take care of himself repeatedly over the years. He was their to help her finally take down Bracken, and it took all of them (the team) together to take down Tyson, and so on. I'm REALLY not buying this "I need to do this alone, besides it's for your own good."

And even if it did make sense in-context, it's still an annoying and overused cliché that I'm REALLY sick and tired of seeing.

 

[Teelie]

It is much like Once Upon A Time reusing the "everyone's gotten their memories erased" cliche. Only this isn't a fairy tale series and this feels even more like a desperate ratings grab/failed attempt to recapture the spirit of earlier seasons.

 

[Dark Raven]

It is much like Once Upon A Time reusing the "everyone's gotten their memories erased" cliche. Only this isn't a fairy tale series and this feels even more like a desperate ratings grab/failed attempt to recapture the spirit of earlier seasons.

These sorts of things always backfire. No-one wants to see the feel of the earlier seasons at the expense of their relationship. It just feels like it's taking a massive step backwards.

And if Beckett was so distraught at being apart from Castle last year when he went missing, why does she voluntarily want to be apart from him now? That sort of thing ought to make her realise that life is fragile and that they never know when it could be the end for them. So they should want to spend as much time together as they possibly can instead of separating in the hope that sometime tomorrow (which may never even come) they can have a better future. She doesn't see that this future may not even exist because of what she's doing in the present to destroy it.

 

[Teelie]

The writers must have forgotten how distraught she was during that time. They seemed to have forgotten a lot of things though.

 

[Dark Raven]

Why can't Stana speak up then? She must remember from having played the character. Even Fillion should remember. He has a responsibility to, since it is his show. They can't just do whatever the writer tells them to do if it's not in character.

 

[Teelie]

I don't know what is going on with the production side. There are all kinds of rumors swirling around about how Fillon and Katic are at odds, that Katic nearly walked out before getting a better contract and then we see the premiere and this stupid ending so who knows.

 

[PyroChamber]

Damn Alexis!