First Look LOBO Script Review!

[Brian Braddock]

Please elaborate, when was this BB?

All I knew is that he is Superman strength level, dont know much more about him to be honest.

I couldnt tell you when matey - I never actually witnessed it myself, first hand.

I'm recalling that a comicbook pro, someone who had actually worked with the character (possibly Keith Geffen) saying that it had happened in an interview with Wizard.

It's pretty badass if it's true; I mean, it definately adds something to the Lobo mythos - let's see:-

-He's slaughtered his entire world, just to be unique.
-Neither God or the Devil could handle him when he died, so they worked together to bring him back to life just to get him out of their hair.
-Killed Father Christmas in a knife-fight.
-He's broke Superman's nose in a ruck.

I realise I've missed some out, but those few claims listed above are pretty impressive as they are.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I couldnt tell you when matey - I never actually witnessed it myself, first hand.

I'm recalling that a comicbook pro, someone who had actually worked with the character (possibly Keith Geffen) saying that it had happened in an interview with Wizard.

It's pretty badass if it's true; I mean, it definately adds something to the Lobo mythos - let's see:-

-He's slaughtered his entire world, just to be unique.
-Neither God or the Devil could handle him when he died, so they worked together to bring him back to life just to get him out of their hair.
-Killed Father Christmas in a knife-fight.
-He's broke Superman's nose in a ruck.

I realise I've missed some out, but those few claims listed above are pretty impressive as they are.

All of this just makes me look forward the movie even more, I hope it turns out as outrageous as this!

I will say though, the story sounds very much like Drax's first story in the Annihilation arc. In that he crashlands on earth in a prison ship, with 4 other alien prisoners, and befriends a teenage girl, and ends up fighting the 4 criminals, the Lobo movie premise sounds very similar to that.

 

[Rac]

wait he is going to be in the hobbit?

I remember del Toro mentioning that he has something in mind for Perlman in The Hobbit. People started suspecting the role of Beorn. Nothing is set in stone, tho.

 

[Webhead2006]

oh ok, i didnt know that. Only thing i know pearlman doing right now is that motocycle show on FX.

 

[sabetoonth]

i used to describe him as a space biker, what you said fits better

 

[howl]

pg13 not pg and pg13 can be pretty violent. Hell just look at TDK

my bad. i live in Aus and the rating system is different here. the pg-rating down here is given to horrors like high school musical, where tdk got an m15 rating. as much as i love tdk, i think lobo needs to be a bit more brutal.

 

[Lobo]

So guys, the Variety article that told us about Ritchie as the director said filming would commence early next year. Which actors schedules are open for it?

 

[Webhead2006]

did u guys see the interview with lobo co creator on his thoughts of the film happening.

 

[sabetoonth]

no, whats itsay?

 

[Webhead2006]

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Lobo Creator Keith Giffen Gives His Thoughts On The Proposed Movie

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Mania.com conducted this interview with Lobo Co Creator Keith Giffen. He talks about his feelings on the movie being made as well as its director Guy Ritchie and who he would like to see play the Main Man..
Warner Bros has announced plans for a Lobot movie to film next year under director Guy Ritchie and producer Joel Silver. Comics2Film at Mania.com asked Giffen for his reaction to the news...

"I'm amazed it's actually going to happen. It's been kicked around so long," Giffen told them, and then laughed over some of the reports online about Lobo's skin color. "I had no idea Lobo was blue! All these years."

So is he worried about the direction of the film?

"I've got the concerns that everyone has when they see one of the characters they created when the go into film. I'm not as radical as Alan Moore going, 'I don't want a damn thing to do with it,' but I'm not as enthusiastic as Mark Millar," he said. "I'm optimistic about the potential for the film, but it's a cautious optimism."

How does he feel about Guy Ritchie handling the directing duties?

"I think Guy Ritchie is a good choice for director or a horrible choice for director," the outspoken comics creator said, continuing, "depending on whether we've got Lock Stock Guy Ritchie, which is a good thing or we've got Swept Away Guy Ritchie, in which case it's Tank Girl

Giffen said that the PG13 rating doesn't bother him as long as they manage to get the tone right

"I would hope we'd get a kind of edgy, bizarre type of movie. Are they going to do Lobo as a snarling, sarcastic Jason Vorhees from outer space? Or is it Snake Pliskin in mime makeup?"

The comics creator also said he has no preferences for casting at this point. "If it were five years ago I would cast Andrew Bryniarski, the guy who plays Leatherface," Giffen said. Years ago Bryniarski lobbied hard for the role, going as far as to create makeup and costume tests to try to sell himself as the lead to Silver. The producer never bit, although Bryniarski eventually got a taste of his dream when he starred in the 2002 AFI student film The Lobo Paramilitary Christmas Special

"Get an unknown and make him a star instead of giving the money to a star," is the comic writer's preference, "If it's, 'Mel Gibson as Lobo,' it kind of stops being a Lobo movie and starts being a Mel Gibson movie."

Giffen said when the movie hits theaters he'll be first in line to see it.

"I told my Lobo stories. I'm a happy camper. I wish them all the luck in the world," Giffen said, and to Guy Ritchie: "I hope you knock it out of the ballpark."

There you go Ritchie, you have the blessing of the characters creator, go make a good movie if you can and show your critics that your more than a Cockerny Aaaaardman loving, style over substance hack!

 

[sabetoonth]

well that sounds kinda like what id do in his place, cept id probablu want i on eveything i could to make sue they get it right

 

[Artanis]

Bryniarski or Garrett for the win! I can honestly picture either one of them as the beautiful bully. Still, I agree with Keith's comment on casting an unknown. While I know it would help to, say, have some big actor on the screen to garner more attention, I really think that sticking to an unknown is best because the movie is focused on the character and story itself; not the big kahoona behind it.

What if they did get a fairly well known celeb to cameo or even star in a small role within the film? Because that would help get more attention, but it wouldn't matter either way. Just get people who can act and that's it.

As for Ritchie directing, I have my fingers crossed and really hope this movie will be a big success. I'd really love for it to be an absolutely R-rated movie, but I can understand why they're going for PG-13 rating instead.

Lobo is basically a pyschopathic idiot. He doesn't spout off one-liners.. he IS a walking one-liner.

Any movie about Lobo would have to show that he is A) Violent B) Extremely Narcissistic with a ridiculously high opinion of himself C) incapable of recognizing the worth of any other being other than as a target or a means to an end D) Smelly, Hairy, and Foul-mouthed.

Lobo should be a funny, violent film where the main character is kind of an overly-muscled boob.

I would pay to see this sort of film at least 20x in the cinemas!! If they can promise and deliver all of that, then that'd be perfect, but being the cynic that I am, I won't be getting my hopes up too much. As long as they can be faithful to the character, then I'll bite. I'm just ecstatic that the friggin bastich gets his own debut!

PS: They have to do a bar scene like Brian suggested! It just has to be done! It simply has to be done It's too epic not to. I can just picture it: a smoky bar with dim orange lighting (courtesy of the planet's sun) that's practically brimming with a hotchpotch of characters. Enter Lobo, at first concealed in shadow, scaring the living daylights out of everyone. With only his toothy grin and blood red eyes visible, the Main Man suddenly spots a leather jacket on the person sitting closest to the door. "Nice rags" he grunts before all hell suddenly breaks loose. Eventually when the chaos subsides, he takes a drag from his cig and slowly walks over to the door amidst the bloodied floor and with care swipes flecks of blood and flesh off of the jacket. "I'll be taking that," he says ever so casually before taking his leave.

Because you know Lobo would so kill everyone in a bar for a badass jacket! >:[

 

[theMan-Bat]

Keith Giffen should be hired on as film consultant, and they should drop the Lobo as Hellboy/Snake Plissken script draft by Don Payne and use the Superman vs. Lobo script by Keith Giffen instead.
Here are excerpts from the book Superman vs. Hollywood about the Superman vs. Lobo script Keith Giffen wrote in 2000.

The Superman vs. Lobo script review from AICN October 18, 2000:
"And right now... On Lorenzo's Desk at Warner Brothers lays the greatest Superhero Movie Ever To Be Made!"

"Hey folks, Harry here, and boy oh boy... If Warner Brothers actually ponies up and has the balls to make the film I'm gonna tell you about... Dear God, it is one helluva movie.

SUPERMAN was supposed to be dead at Warner Brothers... but really what they meant by that was... DEATH OF SUPERMAN / That whole Doomsday thing was dead. They'll never stop development entirely on the man of steel... He means too much to the coffers of the public holding Warner Stock to be completely forgotten.

However, the development process has been very very hush hush... Very much on the qt. Well, I teamed up with Houdini... the world's greatest escape artist to free this information for the likes of you and me.

Now I know many of you comic fans are familiar with a writer/artist by the name of Keith Giffen. He created an immensely popular DC character by the name of LOBO (not the AICN aging lycanthrope). And for years we've heard about a Lobo script, and how the property was in development. Well...

About 4 weeks ago a 17 page scriptment written by Keith Giffen landed upon the desk of one Jon Peters and one Lorenzno DiBonanventura. Well Nanobot 01, instantly reported that there was a scriptment for SUPERMAN that Lorenzo was very excited and charged for...

Well the next 3 weeks began an immense campaign to learn as much as possible about these 17 pages. Contacting spies from around the globe. Moriarty made seven attempts on Lorenzo's office himself, but the Mastiffs in the sewers beneath Warners... and then there was Eastwood walking around with a 357 Magnum keeping Moriarty at bay.

That was when suddenly a name from long long ago came to mind. Houdini. It has been over 3 and a half years since Houdini made his presence known. Now, while Nanobot 01 coordinated Lorenzo, the janitor, the security team, the assistants and secretaries coming and goings timed to a fine art... it was determined that it would be impossible. Houdini said, "Noone besides Lorenzo himself can get in there."

EUREKA! That's it!

Houdini is a master hypnotist, and through Nanobot 01's onboard speaker system... Houdini was faxed the 17 pages right out of the office. Muhahahaha... Next up... A.I., though according to Nanobot 01, there is no A.I. script at Lorenzo's office... Bummer.

Yeah yeah, I know... you don't care how we got it... You just want to know how it is.

Well... Keith Giffen's SUPERMAN scriptment is nothing short of being the most ambitious and thrilling concept I've yet seen for a Superhero film.

Superman's foe in the film isn't Braniac or Lex Luthor or any of the typical Superman stable of bad guys. Instead, Keith created a story in which an alien mafia organization that... well... that wanted a resource... very common on earth... but is the greatest most thrilling drug known in existence in their sector of the galaxy.... So they hire Lobo to visit Earth and Kill Superman.

The differences between Lobo and Superman keep this film alive at a breathless pace. It also instantly opens up 2 franchises...

The other great aspect is it opens up the vast scope of the D.C. universe... that Superman is really a global protector... not just Metropolis. I also like that the film takes place in a pivotal place in Clark and Lois' relationship where they are just beginning to see each other as something more than friends and associates. I love that Lois' sister is here... That Jimmy Olsen is basically a teenager/early college age. That Perry White smokes cigars. That the Daily Planet has a globe.

I love how Lobo is an utter badass scuzzy bastard... but in a really blue collar sort of way. I love the epic scope of the battle... as it is everybit as large in scale as DOOMSDAY's battle... but moreso even... and I love that we visit other planets, alien cantinas.... Lobo's asteroid home... Using the term TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE to describe the visual aesthetic of Lobo's home. I love Lobo's spacehog, his terminology about 'fraggin' and how he smells Superman on Lois' breath... and how damn violent this gets.. but still how at moments it has that feel of innocence and fair play and the right sense of duty.

The film would be expensive (and I mean real expensive), but that is exactly as it should be. Do we want Superman fighting regular criminals? No, we want him fighting battles where he can't beat the guy he's fighting, because as mild mannered humans ourselves... we need that sort of association to feel for the lug.
I love how Lobo's word of honor is absolute... I love how he sticks to the letter of a contract. How he drinks brews, smokes cigars, who's smoke will cause a regular man to pass out.

I have always loved Kevin Smith's script for SUPERMAN LIVES, but I never really cared for the basic Doomsday... DEATH OF SUPERMAN storyline. Sure it sold a billion issues of the comic... but that was speculation by folks that were investing and buying multiple copies in the prayers of financing college educations and a trip to Vegas.... not that the story was inherantly great.

Now... Will we ever see this? I can't imagine that the script will be done in time for the pre-strike universe of film. BUT... This film must be made. When you see Lobo haul off and hit Superman upside the jaw and you see him skip across the bay of Metropolis and into the base of a bridge leaving an imprint of his body shape in steel below.

For some strange feeling I kept picturing Benicio Del Toro as the voice of Lobo... Maybe it's just me. I can't even think or a really solid Supes (besides Bruce Campbell of course hehehehe) Oh... and Superman wears his SUPERMAN COSTUME, flies and has heat vision, cold breath.... and all of that. Well, basically... that's where it's at. My understanding is that Keith Geffin is at work on the script now. Personally... I can't wait! This read like a dream." - Harry Knowles, October 18, 2000.

 

[GreenKToo]

Keith Giffen should be hired on as film consultant, and they should drop the Lobo as Hellboy/Snake Plissken script draft by Don Payne and use the Superman vs LoBo script by Keith Giffen instead.

Interesting. They could kill to birds with one stone so to speak. That'll never happen tho.

 

[theMan-Bat]

It could actually happen now with DC Entertainment. Diane Nelson's mission is to develop, sustain and prioritize more DC characters franchises. Superman vs. Lobo could relaunch the Superman franchise and launch the Lobo franchise simultaneously.

 

[Webhead2006]

it could but they probably wont do it

 

[sabetoonth]

it is a strech, how many versus movies started individual frachises?

 

[Webhead2006]

none?

 

[sabetoonth]

exactly, im not tryin to put the project but i dont hink it would work

 

[Webhead2006]

oh yea it would be a great way to launch lobo with superman since he is assoicated with superman at time. But we know they want to do this solo lobo film and we still have no bloody clue what the heck they are going to do with superman, let alone if they can get something going and qualify for being in production via the court order.

 

[theMan-Bat]

Spin-off franchises exist. That Wolverine movie is a spin-off of the X-Men films. Spider-Man 3 was a versus movie and now the solo Venom movie is planned. The Keith Giffen Superman vs. Lobo script has been called the greatest Superhero Movie Ever To Be Made! Superman needs a worthy foe and a lot of action in a film, and Lobo would certainly bring that. And no one understands Lobo better than Keith Giffen. And the film would have a better chance of being sucessful with Superman in it, getting both the Superman fans and Lobo fans interested and excited about the film and Superman would give the movie a hero the public knows and likes and some much needed attention and hype so the Lobo movie audience wont just be limited to the Lobo fanboys, which was one of Watchmen's problems. Nobody but the Watchmen fanboys really cared and loved Watchmen. Some might remember Lobo fighting Superman in the Superman cartoons in the '90s - which, if they go with the Don Payne Lobo script, would make them wonder where Superman is.

 

[Antonello Blueberry]

Keith Giffen turned that movie script into a comic-book and I can barely remember it. It wasn't that great.

 

[tyler-durden]

http://wearemoviegeeks.com/2009/09/red-dawn-gains-a-comedian/

Just read te last line, the Comedian as Lobo would be interesting but not sure if he's the best choice.

 

[Octoberist]

hehe. it's already on the main page, Tyler.

 

[theMan-Bat]

Keith Giffen turned that movie script into a comic-book and I can barely remember it. It wasn't that great.

Keith Giffen made a comic-book movie script that's completely faithful to the source material. That's a great and rare thing to have happen. Superman fighting an alien bounty hunter that's trying to kill Superman wouldn't be too difficult for general audiences to understand and follow. And since CGI capabilities have improved, it wouldn't be too expensive to film now since they wouldn't have to construct huge sets.