Fly high, fly proud: Tessa Thompson IS Valkyrie

[Confusion]

I wonder what's up with those fire works.

That was my 1st thought too. I don't remember them in the trailer. Damn. I've watched it a dozen times & still missed things. I think I need to watch it a dozen more. I have no issues with that.

 

[HammerDown]

Oh and by the way when the Valkyries attack Hela in that Epic shot, it's like a small army of them against Hela... It's like 30 of them on pegasus. Some have swords and shields.

 

[Wildcard]

So much awesome.

 

[Jedi Arrow]

My thoughts exactly. I'm looking forward to see her in real action. The trailer just gave very few teases of what i would hope/expect is badassery.

Know what it reminds me of?

t:

 

[Silvermoth]

that's not what Becky means in her song...

Nah in the song Becky is the other woman jay z cheated with but lately on twitter Becky means the other thing

 

[HammerDown]

Well Valkyrie's pegasus is called Aragorn. So... t:

 

[Nathaniell]

I was going through my Thor comic books and came across New Ultimates Thor Reborn. Its got almost every character but there's some not featured. Anyway. Valkyrie is in it...gods the art work is so delicious. I wish they'd left her as a blonde in this film but after watching the trailer, Tessa has grown on me just a little.


We need more blondes if theres going to be anymore Thor films

If they bring in Amora...dont change her appearance pls. Lol.

 

[metaphysician]

Valkyrie has the same symbol in her cape as the asgardain warriors... Einherjar.

I wonder if the Valkyries and the Einherjar were effectively the same thing: the elite army of Asgard. Valkyries were cavalry, Einherjar infantry.

The main difference here being, Brynnhildr is a veteran of the times when Asgard was regularly at war with terrible foes, whereas the Einherjar we see are largely a peacetime army. Plus, she's the best of the best of the old Valkyries, what with being the only one who survived.

 

[metaphysician]

Pure strength i doubt would be a focus of her character abilities. From what i read and heard is more a very skilled badass fighter with several cool weapons.

Yeah, I suspect her primary schtick will basically be "Sif+". She's what Sif might become with another 1000 years or so of experience.

 

[metaphysician]

So much awesome.

I kind of wonder at whether and how they take down Hela, assuming that scene is how she was originally defeated. I mean, on the surface, either Brynnhildr and the Valkyries are *much* more powerful than we've seen, or else some special circumstance would have to apply. After all, we *do* have a good idea of how powerful Hela is, and I wouldn't expect 30 Sifs, or even 30 hammerless Thors, to be able to take her down.

 

[Nathaniell]

I kind of wonder at whether and how they take down Hela, assuming that scene is how she was originally defeated. I mean, on the surface, either Brynnhildr and the Valkyries are *much* more powerful than we've seen, or else some special circumstance would have to apply. After all, we *do* have a good idea of how powerful Hela is, and I wouldn't expect 30 Sifs, or even 30 hammerless Thors, to be able to take her down.

I dunno why but that part made me laugh.

 

[Confusion]

Oh and by the way when the Valkyries attack Hela in that Epic shot, it's like a small army of them against Hela... It's like 30 of them on pegasus. Some have swords and shields.

That scene is AMAZING. I can not wait to see that on the big screen!

 

[Mjölnir]

I kind of wonder at whether and how they take down Hela, assuming that scene is how she was originally defeated. I mean, on the surface, either Brynnhildr and the Valkyries are *much* more powerful than we've seen, or else some special circumstance would have to apply. After all, we *do* have a good idea of how powerful Hela is, and I wouldn't expect 30 Sifs, or even 30 hammerless Thors, to be able to take her down.

I'm not so sure the Valkyries manage to defeat Hela as the footage in the teaser didn't look very positive, plus that it seems believable that Valkyrie will have gone into exile due to her defeat.

 

[BigThor]

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Pure strength i doubt would be a focus of her character abilities. From what i read and heard is more a very skilled badass fighter with several cool weapons.

Well Sif did kick an RV and made is slide along the ground in Agents of Shield.

I would love to see Sif and Valkyrie fight side by side.

 

[Nathaniell]

M

Well Sif did kick an RV and made is slide along the ground in Agents of Shield.

I would love to see Sif and Valkyrie fight side by side.

Me toos

Man i need to up my Thor comic books collection. Next week im so heading down to the CB store.

 

[HammerDown]

I wonder if the Valkyries and the Einherjar were effectively the same thing: the elite army of Asgard. Valkyries were cavalry, Einherjar infantry.

The main difference here being, Brynnhildr is a veteran of the times when Asgard was regularly at war with terrible foes, whereas the Einherjar we see are largely a peacetime army. Plus, she's the best of the best of the old Valkyries, what with being the only one who survived.

My view on that is that the Einherjar are the regular army of Asgard in the MCU. While the Valkyries are some kind of "Special Ops" group.

I kind of wonder at whether and how they take down Hela, assuming that scene is how she was originally defeated. I mean, on the surface, either Brynnhildr and the Valkyries are *much* more powerful than we've seen, or else some special circumstance would have to apply. After all, we *do* have a good idea of how powerful Hela is, and I wouldn't expect 30 Sifs, or even 30 hammerless Thors, to be able to take her down.

I always looked at that scene and thought about that being how Hela completely destroyed the Valkyries and i never looked it from the perspective that it could be how she get's imprisoned... It could be though. But from what we see the Valkyries get obliterated by Hela.

I guess the only one capable of imprison her would be Odin.

 

[Finarfiniel]

I always looked at that scene and thought about that being how Hela completely destroyed the Valkyries and i never looked it from the perspective that it could be how she get's imprisoned... It could be though. But from what we see the Valkyries get obliterated by Hela.

I guess the only one capable of imprison her would be Odin.

Yeah, the shot of Valkyrie falling from the sky in the teaser trailer and Hela's general victorious demeanor in all the shots of we've seen of her in that scene so far seem to indicate that Hela defeats the Valkyries, not the other way around. I think it's supposed to be the story of why Valkyrie left Asgard.

I also think that Odin is perhaps the only one sufficiently powerful enough to defeat and imprison Hela.

 

[HammerDown]

 

[metaphysician]

I'm not so sure the Valkyries manage to defeat Hela as the footage in the teaser didn't look very positive, plus that it seems believable that Valkyrie will have gone into exile due to her defeat.

True, that would resolve the issue.

I just wonder at the context. As I imagine everybody will, until the movie comes out.

 

[metaphysician]

I guess I had always interpreted that scene as "Hela's last hurray" before she was imprisoned, for some reason. Though it could always be both: the Valkyries died almost to a woman fighting her, and didn't really do much to her. . . except keep her occupied in battle. *Then* Odin showed up, and blammo.

If so, it would contribute to her self-exile: "Did you really even care about us? Were we just a distraction to you?" Which would be doubly painful if the answer is "Yes, I did care about you all. And as king, it was my duty to sacrifice you as a distraction, if that were necessary."

 

[Steamteck]

I'm a little more impressed with some of the shots but really not wowed yet. I guess I'm still in shock about the big change from the comic version of one of my favorites and i really really wanted Sif. maybe she will really wow me in the film though.

 

[HammerDown]

 

[RoastBeast]

I guess I had always interpreted that scene as "Hela's last hurray" before she was imprisoned, for some reason. Though it could always be both: the Valkyries died almost to a woman fighting her, and didn't really do much to her. . . except keep her occupied in battle. *Then* Odin showed up, and blammo.

If so, it would contribute to her self-exile: "Did you really even care about us? Were we just a distraction to you?" Which would be doubly painful if the answer is "Yes, I did care about you all. And as king, it was my duty to sacrifice you as a distraction, if that were necessary."

That would also jive with what Tessa Thompson said about Valkyrie and Loki being in kind of the same place. Odin issues would function as a logical bond. 'He made me a spoil of war!' 'Well, he made us casualties of war!'

 

[HammerDown]

Tessa Thompson (Valkyrie)

An elite warrior of Asgard “who has sort of lost her way” is how Thompson describes her character. The actress and Waititi wanted to deviate from the comic book version of Valkyrie, and instead create a more timely character.

“There's an unfair position that women are sometimes put in, in the context of superhero movies and action movies where at once they have to be very strong and fierce, but also sexy,” Thompson said. “Obviously, it's still a superhero movie and so you've got to figure out when you need to stand with your hands on your hips and what makes sense. But we wanted to create a character that occupied her own iconography.”

“There's one word I hate in all scripts in Hollywood at the moment in describing women, and that is the word “badass.” That word has just crept into every script that is pushed around this town now. It's terrible, because it doesn't mean anything. It's a dumb male writer's way of saying, ‘Ah, uh, she's like, she, uh, she's tough.’ Then straight after that it's like, ‘She's badass, but she's got a beauty about her. And she's sexy. Unconsciously sexy.’”

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/herocomplex/la-ca-mn-sneaks-thor-newcomers-20170903-htmlstory.html

 

[HammerDown]

A few different looks at Valkyrie which we haven't seen before. Worth of noting too the name "Warsong" which is the name of a spaceship/"space vessel" related to Valkyrie and by the looks of it it's the spaceship she brings Thor in after he is captured. So now we have at least 3 "spaceship" names confirmed, Commodore, Quinjet and "Warsong" which is also a name of a japanese tactical role-playing game.