For those who read the novel...

[ntcrawler]

Is that an actual quote of the official X3 book?

Yes it is

 

[Pizzaboy1138]

Yes it is

Thanks.

 

[Lil_Flip246]

Chris should write the next Xmen film!!!!

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

^^ Yeah. I agree.

 

[Goddessreicho]

Finally something we can ALL agree on! LOL

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

actually...I had a feeling someone was gonna say that about X4. lol

 

[ntcrawler]

And why not? He's written alot of the X-Men comics. He certainly would know 'em better than Kinberg or Rothman or Ratner ever could.

 

[Goddessreicho]

much better than Short-changing Singer too...I highly doubt anyone would get made to look the fool of in a CC written X-men.


Dammit why didn't they think of that!!

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

send him an email and ask him to do X4!! and bring back james and Famke er Scott and Jean

 

[ntcrawler]

send him an email and ask him to do X4!! and bring back james and Famke er Scott and Jean

One e-mail won't do it. How about an organized flood of e-mails or a petition, real or electronic to FOX demanding that they do an X4 that fixes this tripe?

 

[Goddessreicho]

Yar, and he can give me my ROLO...dernit he started too!

But whoever writes that email should be able to spell.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Ok folks here is a quick summary of how I understood the Phoenix in the novel.

So if you have the book and haven't gotten that far yet, DO NOT READ IT. And if you don't really want to know. Okiday!

Spoiler

When Jean, Scott, Beast, and Ro were all students together and train Jean would sorta focas on her telepathy, and not her telekinisis as much. One time Ro had created a few drops of water for Jean to focas her tk with. She was so into she could actually see the hydrogen and oxigen (sp) molecules. But she wasn't focasing on the world around her. She needed to learn BALANCE which she never did.
Now, as far as I know the Phoenix was created out of Jean's subconcious out of control telekinictic powers. That is what was demolucurizing everyone, and it was also what was leaking radiation and electro magntic energy.

I really liked the final battle in the book. (TIDAL WAVE) And the last fight was SOOOOOOOoooooooo much better. No "I love you" Bull. He told her, "Be well." He didn't have to say it. She knew. It was nice.


A Jean/Logan moment that didn't make me vomit

I loved the flashback part.

 

[Bastila]

Still got to buy this.

 

[Chris Wallace]

This was a great book; this is why I always get the novel. It expands so much. There are always things I wish were in the movie, but nevertheless, I had a blast reading it. It had a much better ending, too-except for the Magneto epilogue.

 

[ntcrawler]

This was a great book; this is why I always get the novel. It expands so much. There are always things I wish were in the movie, but nevertheless, I had a blast reading it. It had a much better ending, too-except for the Magneto epilogue.

I agree. It's a great book. Unfortunately it's a great book based off a bad film. Which means it's forced to follow a bunch of events which were wrong to begin with. So as good as it is written, I have to hate it. It's makes for great stress relief when you hear the thud it makes when it hits the wall.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I wouldn't have read the book if I didn't like the movie.

 

[ntcrawler]

I wouldn't have read the book if I didn't like the movie.

I read the book to get some answers and clarify things in the movie. Unfortunately I didn't get alot of them, so I use mainly as reference material for rewrites and fanfics

 

[Chris Wallace]

What Answers?

 

[LoGaN's RuNNer]

There are in fact two novels, one is the junior one where you can read the bar scene, and which is a bit cheesy in some parts and the novel by Claremont which is similar to the movie but there are a few aspects that I found confusing. The bits of Jean´s past and all the mixed feelings of Logan towards Jean and Storm....is like the author was deciding between ROLO and JELO and did not reach a decision.........and all the JOTT as well, that was confusing for me. The end of the novel is slightly different to the movie, although not as different as in X2 and X2´s novel.....I saw a pic with Jean in the X-suit in the president´s room, so I guess they did that scene with her alive and blind too? I do not have that in my dvd, is there a dvd like X 2.5?

What happens in the bar scene??

 

[ntcrawler]

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There are in fact two novels, one is the junior one where you can read the bar scene, and which is a bit cheesy in some parts and the novel by Claremont which is similar to the movie but there are a few aspects that I found confusing. The bits of Jean´s past and all the mixed feelings of Logan towards Jean and Storm....is like the author was deciding between ROLO and JELO and did not reach a decision.........and all the JOTT as well, that was confusing for me. The end of the novel is slightly different to the movie, although not as different as in X2 and X2´s novel.....I saw a pic with Jean in the X-suit in the president´s room, so I guess they did that scene with her alive and blind too? I do not have that in my dvd, is there a dvd like X 2.5?

What happens in the bar scene??

That's what I'm wondering about too. The only version of the X2 movie I can find is one who's only bonus features is a commentary track. now come on I know there's gotta be more than that!

I agree what you say about the novel. It raises even more questions than it answers by giving you all this tantalizing information and never following up on it. You get the impression that Jean really is in more control of herself than anyone in the movie would give her credit for, that she's aware of what's happening and considers it wrong, there are lots of flashbacks to her better days with Scott, lots of references to things that Scott told her, words of wisdom, etc. So that she's not really on the dark side but more like... still on the fence. And the only reason why she can't come back is because of her realization that she may have killed Scott, and without Scott there really is no going back or nothing to look forward to. Which only frustrates myself and others even more, because if Scott's fate is really as ambiguous as it's made out to be (making his survival more and more likely), then why not bring him back and save the both of them for goodness sake? It's practically screaming to be done.

And yes, I know about the group shots you're talking about, with Xavier and his crew in the President's office. Jean is with them. Was that for promotional / teaser purposes only? Did they do it because Famke was in costume and didn't want her to go to all that trouble just to be left out of the picture? Or is there really another possible ending where she doesn't die?

 

[PhoenixGirl]

There are in fact two novels, one is the junior one where you can read the bar scene, and which is a bit cheesy in some parts and the novel by Claremont which is similar to the movie but there are a few aspects that I found confusing. The bits of Jean´s past and all the mixed feelings of Logan towards Jean and Storm....is like the author was deciding between ROLO and JELO and did not reach a decision.........and all the JOTT as well, that was confusing for me. The end of the novel is slightly different to the movie, although not as different as in X2 and X2´s novel.....I saw a pic with Jean in the X-suit in the president´s room, so I guess they did that scene with her alive and blind too? I do not have that in my dvd, is there a dvd like X 2.5?

I've read it, too. Actually, it was the one which is similar to the movie. Anyway, is it possible for you to find that pic (though I've seen it before) ?