For what it's worth...

[X-Maniac]

V for Vendetta was superb. It didn't do that well though, did it? Were the crucial US market and US critics offended by its anti-American message ('Ulcered Sphincter of Arserica')? Was it too 'different', too thought-provoking, too intense? And I know its comicbook writer distanced himself and dissassociated himself from the movie, which perhaps didn't inspire confidence.

I wouldn't call Casino Royale a superhero movie. And I have many issues with Superman Returns.

 

[Kanon]

I'm undecided between V and X3. I never cared for James Bond, and SR was one big dissappointment, one of the worst movies I ever saw.

 

[TNC9852002]

This is still going on I see...

-TNC

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Casino Royale was great. I really enjoyed V For Vendetta a whole lot. And I thought Singer did a great job with Superman Returns.

I enjoyed these films a whole lot, and in no way did I find them to be "boring", nor did they put me to sleep. Being a big Bond fan, Casino Royale actually is one of my favorite Bond movies, I think. I was really impressed by Craig.

But none of these movies are the same as X-Men: The Last Stand to me. Sure, the movie has it's problems. And sure, some of it could be some inherent bias, because I am an X-Men fan. But I don't feel bad about that. I love the X-Men and their world, so inherently I am going to enjoy these characters that I love so much moreso than I am going to enjoy characters that don't have the same appeal or attatchment like Superman or V. And Bond, though I love Bond, just isn't the same as the X-Men to me.

Combine that with the fact that I don't believe that X-Men: The Last Stand was nearly as bad as anyone makes it out to be (in any sense of the word; an adaptation, a good story, or just plain good filmmaking), and I still give X-Men: The Last Stand the best film of the year.

I know it wasn't on the poll, but Pirates of the Caribean: Dead Man's Chest proved to me that this was a franchise that didn't need a sequel. I absolutley loved Pirates of the Caribean: Curse of the Black Pearl, and when I heard they were making a sequel, I was pissed. The story wrapped up in the first one, they didn't need to do more. But of course, it's a movie studio, only out for $$$, so they did it anyways. And it wasn't nearly as good as the first one.

The first one was fun, charming, and just flat out good without trying. The second one tried way too hard to capture the fun and charm of the first one, and it just wasn't the same.

As least X-Men: The Last Stand had a purpose in the story that it was telling, it had an ongoing story from the last film to tell.

Overall, I was just really disappointed with Dead Man's Chest, and would put it below X-Men: The Last Stand, Casino Royale, Superman Returns, and V For Vendetta.

But me being a sucker, I bought the "Pirates" DVD before seeing the film anyways, so now I'm stuck with a subpar sequel to an amazing movie that didn't need a sequel in the first place.

 

[gambitfire]

He's still no superhero to me. When I think superhero the last fictional character to come to mind would be James Bond.

I don't like when characters like James Bond, Buffy Summers, Angel, hell, sometimes even Blade and Punisher get labeled as superheroes. Sure the have special powers (all of the ones listed besides Punisher and Bond that is), sure they save the world, or stand up for justice, but they just aren't superheroes to me.

Not to attack your opinion or anything but that to me is like saying Batman isn't a superhero.

They do super feats and heroic ones at that too, they save lives, they fight for a good cause. In my book that's superhero material.

To me what you said is almost like saying a firefighter or Police officer can't be considered superheroes. I mean more than just a Hero i mean super, and that doesn't necessarily mean powers to me.

 

[gambitfire]

Combine that with the fact that I don't believe that X-Men: The Last Stand was nearly as bad as anyone makes it out to be (in any sense of the word; an adaptation, a good story, or just plain good filmmaking), and I still give X-Men: The Last Stand the best film of the year.

I know it wasn't on the poll, but Pirates of the Caribean: Dead Man's Chest proved to me that this was a franchise that didn't need a sequel. I absolutley loved Pirates of the Caribean: Curse of the Black Pearl, and when I heard they were making a sequel, I was pissed. The story wrapped up in the first one, they didn't need to do more. But of course, it's a movie studio, only out for $$$, so they did it anyways. And it wasn't nearly as good as the first one.

Okay well i know it's ur opinion, but it's kinda clear you love X3 just for being and X-men movie, and while you think POTC should of ended at DMC well according to B.O. #'s and alot of ppl, no it shouldn't have. but that's your Opinion

 

[TNC9852002]

Oh, and I loved Casino Royale, easily in my top 5 Bond films list. I still work at a movie theater, so I've seen the movie roughly about 2 times, but I've seen that Mollaka-bombmaker chase scene like half a dozen times. It just never gets old for me. It's easily one of the best on-foot chase sequences I've ever seen.

I think I've seen 20 out of the 21 official Bond movies now. I still need to see Octopussy..

-TNC

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Okay well i know it's ur opinion, but it's kinda clear you love X3 just for being and X-men movie, and while you think POTC should of ended at DMC well according to B.O. #'s and alot of ppl, no it shouldn't have. but that's your Opinion

I love X-Men: The Last Stand for more than just because it's an X-Men film.

I also honestly believe that it is a much better made film that people give it credit for.

I will admit, Singer told his stories better, even though I like the story of X-Men: The Last Stand better, it didn't tell it's story as well as Singer's films.

But with that said, that's as far as it goes. I don't think that X-Men: The Last Stand is a poorly made film. I think it has errors that the others didn't, but that doesn't equate to being a poorly made film. I think it's rather well made, actually.

I don't agree with all of the creative choices, but that also does not equate to being a bad adaptation. Despite getting the most wrong of the trilogy (killing Cyclops, curing Rogue, making Wolverine a leader), I also think that it got a whole hell of a lot right that more than makes up for it.

It is possible to have complaints about the film, and still think it's a good film. X-Men: The Last Stand is that to me. I don't fully agree with everything about it, but those things I don't agree with aren't enough to make it a bad film. I get an emmense amount of enjoyment out of this film, and I won't let a couple bad choices take that away from me.

So yes, while I acknowledge that part of it is because it's an X-Men film (the same can be said for X-Men, X2, X-Men comics over any other comic book, X-Men cartoons over any other cartoon, and X-Men Legends over any other video game), it must also be acknowledge by others that I truly enjoy this film for the film that it is, also. That doesn't mean that you have to agree with me, as it has nothing to do with wanting you to agree with me. But just as the X3-haters camp wants us lovers to understand and acknowledge their reasons for disliking the film (and not make assumptions such as "Cyclops died" or "inherent bias from the onset"), the same must be given to us. I don't love this film just because it has "X-Men" in the title, I don't love this film just because of the "mindless" action, and loving this film isn't some indicator that I'm nothing more than a Wolverine lover. Just as you have real reasons for disliking the film, I have real reasons for loving it, and those reasons go far beyond just being an X-Men movie.

 

[Angry Sentinel]

V for Vendetta was just flat out a solid movie. great message, great executions, great story... very entertaining. Haven't seen Casino Royale but I definitely plan to with so many rave reviews.

To Bill the Hype poll must be allowing all Hero icons, not just comic ones these days.

 

[thedarks0ldier]

It dose not deserve respect of recognition, and you can tell the fanboys voting are idiots because SR is #1 and X3 is #2. The top two should be V and cr, as they're the only ones that were actually GOOD

You are absolutely right. Like JustABill said, I love Superman Returns (couldn't stand X3 though) but neither of them came close to V or Casino Royale. This is as mind blowing as Mexican's vote for the PRI party in Mexico. Out of narrowminded loyalty to their favorite franchise fanboys have just demonstrated that our opinion will always be just a tad bit more jaded and tinted then we suspected.

If you honestly do believe that X3 or SR are the best movies of the year then good for you, but Casino Royale and V were (not only in my opinion, but probably most people's opinion also, I cant speak for everyone but I am guessing) the better movies in this catagory.

 

[Kanon]

You are absolutely right. Like JustABill said, I love Superman Returns (couldn't stand X3 though) but neither of them came close to V or Casino Royale. This is as mind blowing as Mexican's vote for the PRI party in Mexico. Out of narrowminded loyalty to their favorite franchise fanboys have just demonstrated that our opinion will always be just a tad bit more jaded and tinted then we suspected.

I think fanboy vote for the film based on their favorite comic mainly because they know others fanboys are doing that with the competition, so, some may think that V is better, but still vote for SR/X3 because others are doing the same, and they don't want their favorite comic defeated.

 

[BMM]

V for Vendetta was superb. It didn't do that well though, did it? Were the crucial US market and US critics offended by its anti-American message ('Ulcered Sphincter of Arserica')? Was it too 'different', too thought-provoking, too intense? And I know its comicbook writer distanced himself and dissassociated himself from the movie, which perhaps didn't inspire confidence.

I wouldn't call Casino Royale a superhero movie. And I have many issues with Superman Returns.

V probably didn't turn in superb numbers because it is a rated R movie that was released in March . . .

 

[The Guard]

I feel what a lot of X3 supporters don't understand is that X3 only made money because the budget was a lot higher. With the budget higher and advertising the hell out of it, plus being the third film of the trilogy, it was going to make money in order to make its budget back.

What kind of logic is that? I'd love to see some hard numbers about the budgets/marketing budgets of SUPERMAN RETURNS and X3...

To whoever said it...Batman isn't technically a superhero. He's a crimefighter, and a detective. And V FOR VENDETTA was hardly all that mainstream or well known a property, even among many fanboys, and also not extremely faithful to the comic version, hence, I think, it's lower ranking on SHH.

 

[danoyse]

Meh, I really don't care. Being rated number 1 on the SHH! poll is nothing to be proud of or to be happy about, simply because it's nothing major and it's really just a poll where fanboys/fangirls vote for their favorite films.

I don't agree with X3 being ranked that high, but it's their opinion. Personally I feel V For Vendetta, Casino Royale, POTC 2, and Superman Returns should be ranked over X3.

But whatever.

Why do I get the feeling that if V For Vendetta, Casino Royale, POTC 2, or Superman Returns had ranked #1, you wouldn't be dissing that poll so much?

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Why do I get the feeling that if V For Vendetta, Casino Royale, POTC 2, or Superman Returns had ranked #1, you wouldn't be dissing that poll so much?

I really don't care. It's all a matter of opinion. Why should I care if one of my favorite films is ranked highest on a message board website? Now if they were nominated for an Academy Award then I would be thrilled.

But who cares? It's just another meaningless poll basically saying "what movie did you enjoy the most out of 2006?"

That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. Personally only films I enjoyed in 2006 have been V For Vendetta, The Prestige, Casino Royale, Superman Returns, Saw 3, POTC 2, and Miami Vice. I'm hoping Rocky Balboa makes the list next week when I see it on opening night.

 

[AssMan]

Your using a poll on a message board full of comic book geeks as proof with how the overall movie audience likes X3 ? This thread is signature worthy

 

[danoyse]

I really don't care. It's all a matter of opinion. Why should I care if one of my favorite films is ranked highest on a message board website? Now if they were nominated for an Academy Award then I would be thrilled.

But who cares? It's just another meaningless poll basically saying "what movie did you enjoy the most out of 2006?"

I can agree with you there. I don't even vote on internet polls. Who knows how many times the same people vote for the same movie over and over again?

And I still think the best movie of 2005 was "Batman Begins," and you know a movie like that wasn't going to get the recognition it deserved during awards time.

That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. Personally only films I enjoyed in 2006 have been V For Vendetta, The Prestige, Casino Royale, Superman Returns, Saw 3, POTC 2, and Miami Vice. I'm hoping Rocky Balboa makes the list next week when I see it on opening night.

I'm actually looking forward to Rocky Balboa. I didn't think I would. I loved the original movies. It was kinda cool to see him back.

My favorite movie this year was The Fountain. I saw it 3 times, it had the most amazing ending I've ever seen.

My other favorites this year where The Departed, The Prestige, The Devil Wears Prada, Borat and Little Miss Sunshine. And The Illusionist.

I also thought Talledega Nights was freakin' hysterical, and Flushed Away was my favorite of all the animated movies out this year.

And my faves out of the superheroes, in no particular order, were X3, Superman Returns, and V For Vendetta.

I'm hoping to finally catch up to Casino Royale this week...plus I can't wait to see Pan's Labyrinth and Dreamgirls (although I'm not going to pay $25 to see that at the Ziegfeld).

See? This is why I don't do polls. I can't make up my mind on my favorite movie.

 

[AssMan]

O/T:

But I still don't get why James Bond is a part of this site. He's not a freaking superhero. Sure he saves the world, but that's not enough to make him a part of this site.

When 24 gets its theatrical movie run started I expect 24 to be part of the site since while Jack may not be a superhero he saves the world fighting terroist & stuff like Bond. Otherwise if not Bond should be taken off the hype t:

In other words using a poll on a Comic Book Movie Forum full of Comic Book Geeks is worth ****

 

[gambitfire]

What kind of logic is that? I'd love to see some hard numbers about the budgets/marketing budgets of SUPERMAN RETURNS and X3...

To whoever said it...Batman isn't technically a superhero. He's a crimefighter, and a detective. And V FOR VENDETTA was hardly all that mainstream or well known a property, even among many fanboys, and also not extremely faithful to the comic version, hence, I think, it's lower ranking on SHH.

I said it, and he is considered by so many a superhero. If you think he isn't that's your opinion but Batman IS HELD as a Superhero by DC themselves, so if you have a problem with it take it up with them.

and V's popularity isn't what was stated it's its quality which i too hold above all other movies this past year.

Edit- i'm just someone who doesn't take the super in hero to literall is all.

But if we are going to get technical then we are elliminating alot of good candidates for the name.

 

[gambitfire]

Your using a poll on a message board full of comic book geeks as proof with how the overall movie audience likes X3 ? This thread is signature worthy

If there is one thing i've learned is that these boards aren't full of JUST comic book geeks.

I can't tell you how many ppl in here are X-men fans because of the movies or even cartoons. Don't stereotype the boards please.

Especially when i have to debate with new coming fans on how true movies are to comic books.

 

[Supreme Power]

This is funny. Ok so we have a few versus polls where X3 is getting trashed and many peoples opinion is made right that X3 sucks. Then the front page poll, and people who voted for X3 are idiots and it doesn't deserve to be there. Ridiculous.

DVD sales alone proved the fact that most the general audience liked X3. And the excuse that everybody who bought it hadn't saw it is just stupid.

I don't consider JB a superhero and still haven't saw CR yet. Although I plan too eventually. I agree V was a good movie, but as a superhero movie it just wasn't my cup of tea.

 

[gambitfire]

how about the excuse that everyone just wanted to complete the DVD set?



DVD sales don't buy me. Especially with the second week drop in theatres to the most unlikely movie.

 

[BMM]

. . . But me being a sucker, I bought the "Pirates" DVD before seeing the film anyways, so now I'm stuck with a subpar sequel to an amazing movie that didn't need a sequel in the first place.

I kind of feel the same way about Pirates. I didn't buy the DVD, but I did contribute to its record breaking numbers . . . It was an okay movie. Hopefully, At World's End will be better.

 

[Retroman]

V For Vendetta and Casino Royale are up there with the best movies of the year but i don't consider them superhero movies per se. Best superhero movie was Superman Returns imo.Loved it. X3 would come right behind those three.Disappointing yes, but theres some good scenes in the movie and great effects.

 

[danoyse]

DVD sales don't buy me. Especially with the second week drop in theatres to the most unlikely movie.

Still, when all is said and done...X3 is the 3rd highest grossing movie of the year, while that "unlikely movie" is way back at #16.