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Fourth Villian is... THE LIZARD?!?!?

The Lizard said:
As much as I love Lizzy, I really don't see him happening for SM3.

1. Venom is already playing the role of the toothy monster villain, so another one would be redundant for this storyline.

2. In SM2, Otto Octavius was (incorrectly) given a personality and background resembling Curt Connors. This was a mistake, but as a result Curt Connors would now also seem redundant in a similar "sympathetic" villain role.

3. Adding the human drama to Connors' storyline would require too much time, and quite frankly I don't see how all of the present storylines are going to fit comfortably in SM3, much less one more.

HOWEVER: A possible exception to this could be if the Lizard was shown as a quick montage-villain, or a flashback only with no connection to the main storylines. This would be a cheap slap in the face to the Lizard character, but it would honestly be better than trying to shove him into the already-crowded SM3 main plot.

...But I really doubt it will happen at all. :o

looks like your favorite villain is going to be making a cameo at the end of 3
 
I'm sure the Lizard could be cool but he probably won't make a full appearance because if they use him too then who's left for the rest of the Spidey films?
 
Well I guess this seems likely because Dylan Baker is confirmed to be returning and no one has heard of him in anything tough strange.
 
boywonder13 said:
Well I guess this seems likely because Dylan Baker is confirmed to be returning and no one has heard of him in anything tough strange.
You're right, I just got this off of IMDB:

Tobey Maguire .... Peter Parker/Spider-Man
Thomas Haden Church .... Flint Marko/Sandman
Kirsten Dunst .... Mary Jane Watson
Topher Grace .... Eddie Brock (attached)
James Franco .... Harry Osborn
Bryce Dallas Howard .... Gwen Stacy
rest of cast listed alphabetically:
Dawn Marie Anderson .... I.C.U Nurse #2
Robert N. Anderson .... Lab Tech #7
Terrell Anthony .... Lab Tech #6
Dylan Baker .... Curt Connors Ph.D./The Lizard
Elizabeth Banks .... Betty Brant
Jodi Benker .... Nightclub Guest
Wilson Better .... Chess Bully
Christina Cindrich .... Lab Technician
Paul Terrell Clayton .... Technician


It also gives credit to Todd for characters - outside of Venom has he created any that could be used in this film?

Writing credits
Stan Lee (creator: "Spider-Man" comic book and characters) &
Steve Ditko (creator: "Spider-Man" comic book and characters)

Todd McFarlane (characters)

Sam Raimi (story) &
Ivan Raimi (story)

Alvin Sargent (screenplay)
 
jrd550 said:
You're right, I just got this off of IMDB:

Tobey Maguire .... Peter Parker/Spider-Man
Thomas Haden Church .... Flint Marko/Sandman
Kirsten Dunst .... Mary Jane Watson
Topher Grace .... Eddie Brock (attached)
James Franco .... Harry Osborn
Bryce Dallas Howard .... Gwen Stacy
rest of cast listed alphabetically:
Dawn Marie Anderson .... I.C.U Nurse #2
Robert N. Anderson .... Lab Tech #7
Terrell Anthony .... Lab Tech #6
Dylan Baker .... Curt Connors Ph.D./The Lizard
Elizabeth Banks .... Betty Brant
Jodi Benker .... Nightclub Guest
Wilson Better .... Chess Bully
Christina Cindrich .... Lab Technician
Paul Terrell Clayton .... Technician


It also gives credit to Todd for characters - outside of Venom has he created any that could be used in this film?

Writing credits
Stan Lee (creator: "Spider-Man" comic book and characters) &
Steve Ditko (creator: "Spider-Man" comic book and characters)

Todd McFarlane (characters)

Sam Raimi (story) &
Ivan Raimi (story)

Alvin Sargent (screenplay)
that's your proof.......IMDB...........................hahahhahahaahhahahahaaahhaaahahahhaahahahhahahaha your really funny jrd550
 
Hi

You can't trust IMDB: May Parker as Carnage ahahahahahaha

Anyway, I think the Lizard will be the fourth villain as well. After writing down how I would make the movie given the characters I think the Lizard would work at the begining fighting Spidey. Spidey subdues him and we get a quick origin. Which obviously opens him up for later movies.
 
GGVenomSandman said:
that's your proof.......IMDB...........................hahahhahahaahhahahahaaahhaaahahahhaahahahhahahaha your really funny jrd550
my bad, didn't realize they were so unreliable. I live in the city and am about to go out so I'll check the set out to see if I see the Dr.
 
i have a question. . .

what if the fourth villian is the opening sequence for SM3. maybe the fourth villian is just a human robber or minor powered being. perhaps sam raimi wants SM3 to open right in the middle of action so our fourth villian (who ever he/she may be) would be in one sequence????
 
memphisplayrr said:
i have a question. . .

what if the fourth villian is the opening sequence for SM3. maybe the fourth villian is just a human robber or minor powered being. perhaps sam raimi wants SM3 to open right in the middle of action so our fourth villian (who ever he/she may be) would be in one sequence????

Hi

Thats what I am thinking except the Lizard will be the villian at the begining before Spidey fights and subdues him. It WON'T be anyone minor as that is unlikely to cause 'mass hysteria' as Raimi puts it.
 
RMThompson said:
OK well... The whole AUNT MAY/CARNAGE this is now *off* of IMDB....

But this is up: Dylan Baker .... Curt Connors Ph.D./The Lizard

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0413300/

Trust me I know imdb can be crap.

him being the lizard was up while carnage was up.....they were both up at the same time....
 
paulyfknt90 said:
on second thought mabe lizard will be in but probably in the last bit of the movie leading us into a very anticapating sequil.

i overlooked the actors name on imbd, and under his charicter connors the lizard is represented next to it.


who knows, its too early to tell

I'd expect him to be in the beginning of the movie while hobgoblin is here and there throughout the movie.....as is sandman and then Venom in the 2nd half.....while hobgoblin ends up helping Peter in the end and dies...
 
The Lizard may indeed be a cliffhanger, yet, they (Sony exec./producer) don't seem to want a cliffhanger for SM3.
 
Visionary said:
The Lizard may indeed be a cliffhanger, yet, they (Sony exec./producer) don't seem to want a cliffhanger for SM3.

I don't think the Lizard will be in this movie....but if he is....he'll be as I said in a couple posts above...

I could see the movie ending with Connors and Peter talking about a way to repair his arm leaving that open without actually making it a cliffhanger...

just some food for thought...
 
DOES A CAMEO EVEN COUNT??? Just seeing Conners starting to turn right before the credits doesn't seem much like a villain... Arad would've said there might be a setup or something but no a whole other villain...
 
there is too much spiderman lore to draw on for them to start reintroducing a character that supposedly died 2 movies ago. besides, that would just count for 1/2 a villain.
 
veneers said:
there is too much spiderman lore to draw on for them to start reintroducing a character that supposedly died 2 movies ago. besides, that would just count for 1/2 a villain.

to be exact....it would only be .6666666666666666666667 of a villain...
 
I still say the villian will be Stay puff marsh mellow man
 

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