Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns Animated

[antonydelfini]

How are people watching this?

Many of us here work for Warner Brothers.

 

[shauner111]

How are people watching this?

Sega-CD

 

[Binker]

How are people watching this?

Connections. We have 'em, only if we don't use them fo evil.

 

[Rodrigo90]

Stop being cryptic you buttholes

 

[Binker]

This is a question for those who have seen the film:

Spoiler

does anyone have the sneak peak to Part 2 with the audio, and could send it via PM? Because, I have one without the audio. Thx

 

[dggccc]

Hi All,

I have a major concern relating to the dark knight and in fact batman begins and would LOVE it if someone could help me get to the bottom of this.

Having watched the Dark Knight and Batman Begins recently I noticed a rather large discrepancy in the way Gotham is portrayed in the movies, and to cut a long story very short this was my main concern which I would love answering:

In Batman Begins when the toxin is released into the water, Gotham appears to be a dense futuristic dark city with high level blocks and a lot of pollution - however when the Joker blows up Gotham Central Hospital in DK - I noticed that Gotham Central Hospital (which I'm assuming is in the centre of the Gotham district) - is clean and rural with a huge open backdrop of farms and fields and trees and nothing AT ALL gotham like from the first film. And also when the camera pans out of the Hospital, there is no Gotham or any city in sight!!!

Now Im not picky with Films and I dont like to spoil them for people - not to mention the fact Dark Knight is a fantastic film - but really! Its soooooo obvious it seems no one has stopped to think about how Gothams landscape really changes.

Any ideas? Please help folks! Thanks

Dan

 

[BlueLightning]

First film was shot in Chicago. The area you describe is the Narrows, a section of Gotham decadent to extreme, and was shot in a huge set. The Dark Knight was also shot in Chicago. However, for The Dark Knight Rises, the director choose Pittsburgh because he sensed that it would bring a different spin on Gotham, aiming at showcasing how big and diverse Gotham is.

Also, this is in the wrong thread. Some mod please relocate these posts.

 

[Holiday]

I'm maybe halfway through this, and I had to comment on just how awesome this plays out. The first dump battle is 100x more exciting in full motion. The standout moment for me so far is with the baby kidnappers. In the comic, it seems like he just shoots and kills the Mutant holding the baby. Here, they make it clear he disarms the Mutant then knocks her(?) out with the butt of the gun.

They're doing a kick-ass job of fleshing this out.

This was a discussion in the other thread. In the comic, it definitely looks like he has shot and killed her, only to go and deal with Batman not crossing the line he set for himself in regards to killing Joker later on in story, plus other references to his no kill rule. But it can make it read as if this Batman is willing to kill if there is no other choice.

How are people watching this?

DC dtv's always leak online a couple weeks before they are released.

 

[Travesty]

I just got done with it, and I gotta say, I really liked it. I thought all of the voice actors did a great job, and the animation was extremely well done. Incredibly accurate to the source material.

Can't wait for part 2.

 

[Tatsumarushinob]

I watched it two days go. I Spanish and English. this movie is just as good as mask of the phantasm I would say. Epic. Weller rules.

 

[Ponyboy]

Is it really such a spoiler?

Yeah. It is.

 

[theMan-Bat]

Say what you want, Miller fanboy. In the first pages of DKR they talk about Batman, that he vanished 10 years ago and so on and the newscaster wishes him well. In the later chapters it's clear that everyone actually knows that superheroes were banned. It just doesn't add up. He might have thought about some things to use later but Miller is a writer that mostly makes things up as he goes along.

I'm clearly not just saying whatever I want, I'm directly quoting what Frank Miller said himself, as the evidence from the interviews in Comics Interview #31 (1986), Comics Journal #101 (1985) and Amazing Heroes #102 (1986) show. Condescendingly mocking me as a Miller "fanboy" doesn't change the fact that Frank Miller made it clear he doesn't wing it and make things up as he goes along. I'm going on Frank Miller's own words from his many interviews. You are disregarding Miller's explanations and jumping to your own conclusions. I go on what Frank himself says about his writing style over what somebody assumes about the way he writes.

Batman didn't retire because superheroes were banned. All the general public knows is that Batman mysteriously vanished. We the reader know that Bruce Wayne retired because of the death of Jason Todd. Bruce said, "I gave my word, for Jason. Never again." Superman recalls that Batman laughed and clearly didn't take the Sub-Committee hearings and superhero ban seriously. Superman says, "When all the noise started from the parents' groups and the Sub-Committee called us in for questioning--you were the one who laughed...That scary laugh of yours...' Sure, we're criminals,' you said. 'We've always been criminals. We have to be criminals.' We almost threw a party when you retired. By then the FBI was in it and things were getting out of hand. And there was that trouble with Oliver. Do you remember why you retired, Bruce? No--Just look at you. You'd do it all again--And like a murderer you'd cover it up again. Nothing matters to you except your holy war. They were considering their options and you were probably still laughing when we came to terms. I gave them my obedience. They gave me a license and let us live. I get to save lives and the media stays quiet. Diana went back to her people. Hal went to the stars. But you, Bruce--you and your wild obsession."

 

[craigdbfan]

In the making to be one of the best DC animated films of all time. Weller literally just gave one of the most memorable vocal Batman performances in a little over an hour. Now that's what you calling owning a role.

The music was excellent and the pacing was incredibly well done. Voice acting was top notch especially Weller of course and the animation was handled with love and care and was beautifully fluid.

Really have to hand it to them. I hope nobody kills me for this but I found this to be a much, much, much better "older/final Batman" tale than Rises. I mean don't get me wrong, I enjoyed Rises but seeing Returns fully animated really shows how incredibly strong, cohesive, and thematically cleaner this movie is compared to the former.

Everything about it just clicked and meshed with me like butter on toast. I was really feeling the music too which sounded to me like HEALTH, Zimmer and Vangelis genetically altered offspring.

Need Part 2 like right now.

 

[cryptic name]

It's 2012. Do you really need to ask this question?

I was curious whether it was released early on demand or if it was leaked. Guess I'm the *******.

 

[BH/HHH]

Question for those who've seen it. There's a bit in the book where Bruce Wayne plays some answer machine messages and on it is Selina Kyle and Superman. Is that bit in the film?

Also do you think this works as a sequel (of sorts) to Year One.

 

[BeserkerHilf]

Question for those who've seen it. There's a bit in the book where Bruce Wayne plays some answer machine messages and on it is Selina Kyle and Superman. Is that bit in the film?

Also do you think this works as a sequel (of sorts) to Year One.

I forget where this happens in the book, but the movie is for the most part issues 1 and 2. The cut off point is the news reports immediately following Batman defeating the Mutant Leader as [BLACKOUT]Joker wakes up[/BLACKOUT].

Superman won't play any role until part 2 if the audio-less sneak peek is to be trusted.

 

[BH/HHH]

I forget where this happens in the book, but the movie is for the most part issues 1 and 2. The cut off point is the news reports immediately following Batman defeating the Mutant Leader as [BLACKOUT]Joker wakes up[/BLACKOUT].

Superman won't play any role until part 2 if the audio-less sneak peek is to be trusted.

Its pretty early, I think its before he goes into the cave Man Bat will probably know the scene I'm talking about.

Ahh so no audio in the sneak peak thats a shame

So do you think it works as a sequel of sorts to Year One?

 

[HighFivingMF]

Stevie's Dad from Malcolm in the Middle is the Mutant Leader. Meaning he used to play cards with Commissioner Gordon (Bryan Cranston in Year One).

Do we know who is voicing Green Arrow yet?

 

[Grommers]

Really well done, the first part, and makes you wanting more from the second. It's a great start and I'll def be buying this on blue-ray.

 

[Binker]

So do you think it works as a sequel of sorts to Year One?

Doubtful. It would've been nice, as if it would've became a Frank Miller Batman Trilogy by accident, but it doesn't work because Year One seems to be in an 70s/80s setting as evidenced by the Gotham's enviroment, but DKR is set in an alternate 1980s setting (or maybe alternate '90s) because the dialogue from the comic and now the movie reveals that Gordon was an army officer during WWII and was there in Pearl Harbor when the Japanese attacked. Obviously with this, DKR couldn't be a seuqle to Year One if it tried.

Also, heres one thing no one has mentioned yet: the phone at Wayne Manor that connects Gordon to Bruce is the Bat-Phone from the '60s show, complete with the sound effect.

And another: has anyone revealed that Mark Valley is voicing Superman in Part 2?

 

[HighFivingMF]

How about the comics on the shelf when the Mutant confronted Gordon? I saw Swamp Thing, Sandman, V for Vendetta, Watchmen, and something I can't put my finger on. I think COIE?

 

[BH/HHH]

Doubtful. It would've been nice, as if it would've became a Frank Miller Batman Trilogy by accident, but it doesn't work because Year One seems to be in an 70s/80s setting as evidenced by the Gotham's enviroment, but DKR is set in an alternate 1980s setting (or maybe alternate '90s) because the dialogue from the comic and now the movie reveals that Gordon was an army officer during WWII and was there in Pearl Harbor when the Japanese attacked. Obviously with this, DKR couldn't be a seuqle to Year One if it tried.

Also, heres one thing no one has mentioned yet: the phone at Wayne Manor that connects Gordon to Bruce is the Bat-Phone from the '60s show, complete with the sound effect.

And another: has anyone revealed that Mark Valley is voicing Superman in Part 2?

Ahhh yeah well Miller does consider Year One a part of his Dark Knight Universe but look at the way comics work Superman Secret Origin for example is in a world with Cellphones etc yet stuff like the Death of supposedly happened afterwords but that wasn't around at a time of cellphones etc so the books can work that way. However I do feel it doesn't work like that for the animated film universe.

Evidently we don't hear Superman's voice in the sneek peak for Part 2.

 

[HighFivingMF]

**** it. As long as you can enjoy it you can push that stuff aside and enjoy them as a trilogy, it's not like it's anything glaring like Bruce losing a hand or Tim showing up in Year One and not being mentioned in TDKR. Hell, if you want you could squeeze in Red Hood as long as they don't make movies of All-Star Batman or Dark Knight Strikes Again (Which I highly doubt they will).

 

[Travesty]

Also, heres one thing no one has mentioned yet: the phone at Wayne Manor that connects Gordon to Bruce is the Bat-Phone from the '60s show, complete with the sound effect.

Ha, yeah, I noticed that. I thought it was kinda cool.

I also liked the comics in the background of the store.

 

[Binker]

How about the comics on the shelf when the Mutant confronted Gordon? I saw Swamp Thing, Sandman, V for Vendetta, Watchmen, and something I can't put my finger on. I think COIE?

Woah, I didn't see that! Yeah, it is COIE.