The Dark Knight From LatinoReview: Joker Intro SPOILERS!

[Maggotx9]

Lol

 

[Rogzilla]

I read their posts...there is nothing trollish about them.

You, on the other hand, are now being a troll. Sorry dude, I tried to stand up for you a little cause you were being picked on for being tactless with your opinion...but hey, what can you do?

I would highly suggest this discussion is pointed to the mods so they can deal with it.

I would also suggest that we ignore the baiting and return to the topic at hand, shall we?

 

[dabilee01]

I don't know, thats for you to decide, you'll either read their posts or you wont.

just to satisfy my curiosity, what do u do for a living, brobdingnag?

and how much do you weigh?

i am merely curious.

lemme guess: 6'3", 185lb (of pure muscle, of course), swimmer's body, blonde hair, blue eyes, and chiseled. am i right??

 

[Maggotx9]

all i can say is that we will know if this bank news are true next month

 

[Milkman95]

Give me a while, I'll try to translate the whole thing...

Thank you, somebody ****IN' answers and brings something to the table.

 

[Jokers_Daughter]

why? Aren't we suppoesed to be talking about the inerveiw? Anyways...

Spoiler

I thnk there is a good possibility that the robbing scene is true, but I was kind of hoping that Nolan would make something a litlle more unique for the joker.

But I haven't seen the movie to give much of an opinion.

 

[sad lieutenant]

Give me a while, I'll try to translate the whole thing...

Awesome. Anytime something gets leaked in Sanskrit, I'm your man.

 

[The Mighty Wind]

Sadly enough both FF films were better than Begins, and they were average at best. They were far more true to the source material than any of the Nolan stuff has been to the Batman stuff. You see, Batman doesn't wear armor, he wears cloth. Also, the joker doesn't wear makeup, his face is bleached white. The Batman of Batman Dead End is the only authentic portrayal of the character on film to date and the new films haven't done anything to change that.

Well since you seem all to eager to be rude and academic, I'll take the time to confront you on both fronts. Firstly, your use of the word "better" is, quite frankly, fairly faulty. True, its subjective, and I'm sure you've reasoned your argument well enough in your head, but all you have done is used the word in place of "accurate." Better, by definition, should mean something is superior in quality. If your definition of quality in comic book films is stringently holding one's self to what works on the pages of a comic, then fine, have a good day and come back to us when you've broadened your mind a little.

You see the rest of us measure the quality of things in far different and more complex ways than you seem to. While we ask for the characters to be reflected in adaptations we realize that sometimes for something to be adapted for film, certain things need to change. They suit the story better, the help with the tone, or quite simply they just work on film much differently than their comic counterparts. We see Batman, we see the Joker, and while the details are changed, as happens in any adaptation, we appreciate that the core of the character has remained intact. That is why we celebrate them.

Furthermore we measure quality through things like plot, pace, design, dialogue. We realize that at the heart of the characters we fell in love with, that there is a story, and we would much prefer that a great story is told than simply one that is painted by numbers from comic book pages.

You argue that Batman: Dead End is the only accurate depiction of Batman, and the only film based on him to be made of quality. Sadly for those of us who value the stories and spirit behind the characters have trouble agreeing. I for one watch Dead End and see a number of things which just don't make sense. I see Batman for instance, whose suit looks great in the comics (where the build of his body would be 7ft+ in real life), whose mask can change expression on the page, and I see him rendered into something that inspires little fear and is left emotionless. I see a Joker whose skin might be bleached white, but whose eyebrows are bushier than a caterpillar and who speaks dialogue that sounds as if it has been written by a four year old.

And then I watch as Batman, a character whose world is supposed to be grounded on earth, fight against Alien and Predator, a pair of characters who are so out of place in any story involving the Dark Knight, that it comes so close to giving me an aneurysm each time I watch it that I'm left speechless for quite some time.

So if its comic accuracy you strive for, pop up Dead End and Patient J on youtube and put them on loop for as long as you want. Pop up GothamWorks and browse through their gallery at will. Heck, why not pop out a comic book and read about the Batman you strive for in the medium he was created for.

As for the rest of us, I guess we'll just have to deal with movies created with integrity, thought and all those things you seem to have no concern for. What a bummer.

 

[ActuallyRobin]

Thank you, somebody ****IN' answers and brings something to the table.

well i auto translated it to google and came up with this:

From the set of actors and film crew released classified information about The Dark Knight. The bad news: missing nine months to check!

A police roadblock is the border between Chicago and Gothic City. Even when we are in full financial district, have banned the passage of cars and passersby to enter into place cameras, crew and actors. The scene takes place in the outskirts of the Continental Bank of Illinois. Hundreds of policemen homenajean a fallen colleague as the new district attorney, Harvey Dent, queen on the podium directed a few words. Suddenly some crazy shots back at the crowd.

Since announcing a confrontation bestial since the last frames of Batman begins: the bat vigilant holding a letter effigy of harlequin. Charles Roven, one of the producers of the tape, described the scene and some of the plot: "The Dark Knight begins in a period of time very close to finishing the other. The bosses of the Mafia have been removed and now Gothic City is safer. The street crime is almost nil thanks to Batman. But that tranquility has made organized crime grouping more efficiently and there will be collateral damage in trying to desarticularlo. "

For this second episode returning all the original actors. All except Katie Holmes, whose decline, as we have, was the product of a atiborrada agenda that did not fit with that of the production that would extend from April to November (the time of filming become longer because director Christopher Nolan does not use the second unity), and their locations have in this city, London and Hong Kong. Here among us, it seemed that nobody was surprised in her role as Rachel Dawes, less when Maggie Gyllenhaal who would replace.

The new ones are already known by everyone: Aaron Eckhart will be Harvey Dent (here never fail to call the White Knight, in clear contrast to Knight Obscuro) and Heath Ledger, who with prostheses and serious mental imbalance try to escape from comparisons with the iconic Joker Jack Nicholson in Tim Burton's Batman. It will be based, rather, in the imagery of the graphic novels The Killing Joke Alan Moore, which has a strong emphasis on mental institution where he escapes the Guasón, Arkham Asylum-. Harvey Dent, in turn, finds its genesis morale in two graphic novels by Frank Miller, Batman: Year One and the canonical The Dark Knight Returns.

When Christian Bale finished filming, we learned that the shooting of the scene earlier had been directed toward him: Bruce Wayne watched from a window and a SWAT team tried to cazarlo. When asked what made him return to this bloody routine of filming, replied: "Because I signed for three parts -ríe-. No, seriously, because I am really proud of the first; He was not a fan of the other tapes Batman and because I really like working with Chris and we want to overcome previous "... And what we saw, what can be achieved . More information on the following numbers.

It filmará April to November and will have to Chicago, London and Hong Kong as locations.

Heath Ledger, with prostheses and serious mental imbalance, try to escape from comparisons with the iconic Joker Jack Nicholson.

Trapitos Gothic

We are the lucky ones who were able to approach the batitraje and strident dress Joker while Lindy Hemming, head of the department of apparel, and Graham Churchyard, creator of the bat suit, kindly revealed some intriguing details. Here they are:

Batman: Originally used the same costume Batman began. After the plot will change its garb. Among the improvements is that you can finally turn the neck! Goodbye to those glances estoicas product movement around the torso. The new were 25 aftershocks for different uses: liquid fire for the use of harnesses for the stunt of batpod with knives real forearms ... They are made of carbon fiber and other materials used in devices from different sports. It consists of 110 pieces, weighs about 13kg (compared to about 18 who weighed those of the previous franchise) and measured about two meters. In the words of Christian Bale, it is "much more comfortable" ... even if it takes 25 minutes ponérselo.

Joker: It's inspired by the model of the influential punk designer Vivienne Westwood. His iconic purple is the gabardina velvet that reaches the ankles. The neck is stained with sweat and makeup used by the clown. The pants have the same color blue lines and they hung a string from the bag to the belt. Have some style pachuco. Inside wears a blue jacket, a green vest, tie in bright blue and yellow worn black shoes. His primary weapon is a small knife.

The full article can see it in our October edition

 

[sad lieutenant]

Have some style pachuco.

Couldn't have said it better myself!

 

[DV8]

It was a LONG handgun though! :-P

heh . . . Joker was 'packin' quite a 'piece' /inappropriate sexual innuendo

 

[Puddin]

Well since you seem all to eager to be rude and academic, I'll take the time to confront you on both fronts. Firstly, your use of the word "better" is, quite frankly, fairly faulty. True, its subjective, and I'm sure you've reasoned your argument well enough in your head, but all you have done is used the word in place of "accurate." Better, by definition, should mean something is superior in quality. If your definition of quality in comic book films is stringently holding one's self to what works on the pages of a comic, then fine, have a good day and come back to us when you've broadened your mind a little.

You see the rest of us measure the quality of things in far different and more complex ways than you seem to. While we ask for the characters to be reflected in adaptations we realize that sometimes for something to be adapted for film, certain things need to change. They suit the story better, the help with the tone, or quite simply they just work on film much differently than their comic counterparts. We see Batman, we see the Joker, and while the details are changed, as happens in any adaptation, we appreciate that the core of the character has remained intact. That is why we celebrate them.

Furthermore we measure quality through things like plot, pace, design, dialogue. We realize that at the heart of the characters we fell in love with, that there is a story, and we would much prefer that a great story is told than simply one that is painted by numbers from comic book pages.

You argue that Batman: Dead End is the only accurate depiction of Batman, and the only film based on him to be made of quality. Sadly for those of us who value the stories and spirit behind the characters have trouble agreeing. I for one watch Dead End and see a number of things which just don't make sense. I see Batman for instance, whose suit looks great in the comics (where the build of his body would be 7ft+ in real life), whose mask can change expression on the page, and I see him rendered into something that inspires little fear and is left emotionless. I see a Joker whose skin might be bleached white, but whose eyebrows are bushier than a caterpillar and who speaks dialogue that sounds as if it has been written by a four year old.

And then I watch as Batman, a character whose world is supposed to be grounded on earth, fight against Alien and Predator, a pair of characters who are so out of place in any story involving the Dark Knight, that it comes so close to giving me an aneurysm each time I watch it that I'm left speechless for quite some time.

So if its comic accuracy you strive for, pop up Dead End and Patient J on youtube and put them on loop for as long as you want. Pop up GothamWorks and browse through their gallery at will. Heck, why not pop out a comic book and read about the Batman you strive for in the medium he was created for.

As for the rest of us, I guess we'll just have to deal with movies created with integrity, thought and all those things you seem to have no concern for. What a bummer.

At the risk of sounding like a kiss ass who can't speak for himself, very well said.

 

[xero1186]

it would be cool if this anime they're releasing is truly tied in and when TDK comes out the bank robbery scene makes sense as the first scene in the movie.

 

[sad lieutenant]

At the risk of sounding like a kiss ass who can't speak for himself, very well said.

I don't think we need more 500 word diatribes... Think of yourself as a shrewd editor, not a syncophant.

 

[brobdingnag]

If your definition of quality in comic book films is stringently holding one's self to what works on the pages of a comic, then fine, have a good day and come back to us when you've broadened your mind a little.

That's not my definition. Batman Begins has much better acting than the FF movies, but so what, the movie is boring. I never said FFs were great, in fact I said they were average at best. But when compared with the source material they more closely approximated the intent of the creators than Batman Begins. FF was a very cheesy sci-fi based adventure comic whose characters happened to have super abilities. When Galactus first appears in the comic he has a giant "G" on his chest for fricks sake. He is first defeated by being threatened by the "Ultimate Nullifier.

The quality of the acting is one of my main concerns. But good acting alone doesn't make a good movie. Watchmen is my favorite work in comics and there is virtually nothing but dialog in it. I do like the "broaden your mind" insult, so you fell off the intellectual wagon and went for insults before you got through your first paragraph.

You see the rest of us measure the quality of things in far different and more complex ways than you seem to.

Garbage of course, you simply like the film and I don't.

While we ask for the characters to be reflected in adaptations we realize that sometimes for something to be adapted for film, certain things need to change.

I couldn't agree more

Furthermore we measure quality through things like plot, pace, design, dialogue. We realize that at the heart of the characters we fell in love with, that there is a story, and we would much prefer that a great story is told than simply one that is painted by numbers from comic book pages.

Same here.

You argue that Batman: Dead End is the only accurate depiction of Batman, and the only film based on him to be made of quality. Sadly for those of us who value the stories and spirit behind the characters have trouble agreeing. I for one watch Dead End and see a number of things which just don't make sense. I see Batman for instance, whose suit looks great in the comics (where the build of his body would be 7ft+ in real life), whose mask can change expression on the page, and I see him rendered into something that inspires little fear and is left emotionless. I see a Joker whose skin might be bleached white, but whose eyebrows are bushier than a caterpillar and who speaks dialogue that sounds as if it has been written by a four year old.

You can drop the "those of us who value story and spirit" because that isn't a distiction between us. In Bats DE, I see better dialog than begins, better action, better cinematography and are more realistic batman (ie the utility belt that actually holds things).

And then I watch as Batman, a character whose world is supposed to be grounded on earth, fight against Alien and Predator, a pair of characters who are so out of place in any story involving the Dark Knight, that it comes so close to giving me an aneurysm each time I watch it that I'm left speechless for quite some time.

I don't care for the Alien/Preditor aspect of it either other than the fact that in terms of fighting action those scenes absolutely destroy any of the action in Begins.

As for the rest of us, I guess we'll just have to deal with movies created with integrity, thought and all those things you seem to have no concern for. What a bummer.

Once again, garbage. We just disagree and you can't handle it so you have to make up some distinction that doesn't exist.

 

[Kanon]

http://www.premiere.com.mx/articulos.php?id_sec=5&id_art=567&id_ejemplar=24

Scooper of Gotham City

From the set, stars and crew release classified information about The Dark Knight. the bad news: there are still 9 months left to check them!

A police barrier in the border of Chicago and Gotham City. Even though we are in the middle of the financial district, cars and people is forbidden in order to let cameras, crew and star enter. The scene unfolds in the outside of Illinois Continental Bank. Hundreds of police officers pay respects to a deceased fellow officer while the new district attorney, Harvey Dent, presides the podium giving a speach. Suddenly, gunshots drive the crowd insane.

It was announced a wild confrontation from the last frames of Batman Begins: The vigilante bat holding a card with the Joker. Charles Roven, one of the film producers, describes the scene and some of the plot: "The Dark Knight begins in a period of time really close where the former ended. The heads of the mob had been removed and now Gotham is safer. Crime street is almost null thanks to Batman. But this calm has made the organized crime regroup more efficiently, and there will be collateral damage when attemptimg to disarm it".

For this second episode all the main actors are back. All except Katie Holmes, whose decline, for what we have been told, was the product of an full calendar that didn't fit the production that would extend from april to november (filming time is longer since director Christopher Nolan is not using a second unit) and would be located in this city, London and Hong Kong. Between us, it seemed like nobody missed her playing Rachel Dawes, even less when Maggie Gyllenhaal would be replacing her

The other new guys are already known by us all: Aaron Eckhart will be Harvey Dent (over here they keep calling him the White Knight, obviously opposed to Dark Knight) and Heath Ledger, who with prosthetics and obvious mental instability will try to get rid of comparisons with the iconic Joker of Jack Nicholson of Tim Burton's Batman. He will be based, actually, in the on of Alan Moore's The Killing Joke -which emphasizes in the mental institution from where the Joker escapes, Arkham Asylum-. Harvey Dent, finds his moral genesis in two graphic novels from Frank Miller, Batman: Year One and the canonical The Dark Knight Returns.

When Christian Bale finished filming, we heard that the shooting from the previous scene where directed to him: Bruce Wayne watched from a window and a SWAT team was trying to hunt him. When asked what made him go back to this demanding filming, he answers: "Because I already signed for three movies -laugh-. No, really, because I'm really proud of the first one; because I wasn't a fan of the previous Batman movies and finally because I really enjoy working with Chris and we want to top the previous movie"... And judging from what we saw, they sure can make it. More info on the following issues.

It will be fimed from april trough november and will have Chicago, London and Hong Kong as locations.

Heath Ledger, with phrostethics and obvious mental instability will try to get rid of comparisons with the iconic Joker of Jack Nicholson.

Gothic style rags

We are some of the lucky ones that could get near to the bat-suit and the strident clothing of the Joker while Lindy Hemming, chief of wardrove department, and Graham Churchyard, creator of the bat-suit, kindly revealed some intriguing details. Here they go:

Batman: at the beginning he will be using the same suit from Batman Begins. The the plot will make him switch clothing. Among the improvements he will be finally be able to move his neck! Say goodbye to those stoic looks product of moving the whole torso. From the new one, 25 copies were made for different uses: against liquid fire, for harness, for batpod stunts, with real blades on the arms... They are made with carbon fiber and other materials used in different sports supplies. It's made of 110 pieces, weights 13 kg (against the 18 of the previous franchise) and is 2 mt long. In the words of Christian Bale, this is "way more comfortable"... though it takes 25 minutes to put it on.

Joker: he is inspired in the models from the leading punk designer Vivienne Westwood. His iconic purple is on the velvet coat that goes all the way to the ankles. The neck is stinted with sweat and make up used by the clown. The pants are of the same color with blue streaks and a chains hangs from the pocket to the belt. It has a certain gang look. On the inside he wears a blue suit, green vest, blue tie with yellow touches, and weary black shoes. His main weapon is a small knife.

You can check the full article on out October issue #157

 

[ang_hulk]

but whys he hate batman? it better be explained.

 

[xero1186]

but whys he hate batman? it better be explained.

I'm hoping the tied-in anime will explain this.

 

[sad lieutenant]

http://www.premiere.com.mx/articulos.php?id_sec=5&id_art=567&id_ejemplar=24

It was announced a wild confrontation from the last frames of Batman Begins: The vigilante bat holding a card with the Joker. Charles Roven, one of the film producers, describes the scene and some of the plot: "The Dark Knight begins in a period of time really close where the former ended. The heads of the mob had been removed and now Gotham is safer. Crime street is almost null thanks to Batman. But this calm has made the organized crime regroup more efficiently, and there will be collateral damage when attemptimg to disarm it".

Doesn't sound like the "ransom" scenario Latino Review described, does it?

 

[Puddin]

I don't think we need more 500 word diatribes... Think of yourself as a shrewd editor, not a syncophant.

*shrugs* I'm an English major. I enjoy reading those "diatribes" as long as they're well written and have a point behind them.

 

[DV8]

man . . . all I can say is this movie is going to be THE SHYT!!!! my only fear is to think how they will ever be able to top THIS one

 

[xero1186]

this movie IS going to be good as long as my spider-man 3 sense doesn't start tingling.

That batman fake is the only thing that worries me...

 

[Puddin]

this movie IS going to be good as long as my spider-man 3 sense doesn't start tingling.

That batman fake is the only thing that worries me...

Well, if Nolan has his way, I'm guessing at the very least we won't have another fiasco with every major plot point established in the trailers.

 

[Adioman555]

I will take this opportunity to call BS. You can't hold money from a bank ransom, its insured. If your bank got robbed, would you be in the hole? Nope. The Bank insures all of the money. If this were possible, why would anyone keep their money in the bank in the first place? This rumour was clearly started by a 14 year old with little knowledge of the workings of the real world. Too many holes in this plot point to be used by Nolan.

 

[Milkman95]

Interesting report that you translated, good work. According to Jett, I thought Jett said some "spoilerish" stuff about Two-Face was revealed, but nothing is there..............