George Lucas calls Spider-Man 3 'silly'

"Tell me you love me."
"I love you so much."

So much for that.

As for the Star Wars-Prequels: They might never win an oscar, nevertheless each one of them gave me that kind of thing, that Spider-Man 3 failed horribly to give me: Entertainment.
 
This from the same man who produced a movie adaptation of a Marvel comic starring a cigar smoking duck named Howard. (I'm still waiting for the special edition DVD of that movie to come out.) Also, Lucas should bow down to Stan Lee for the fact that Darth Vader was clearly influenced by Dr. Doom. And he has the nerve to call 'Spider-Man 3' silly. Oh, how the mighty have fallen.
 
The three prequels were horrible. If you call that entertaining, you probably get kicks watching paint dry.
 
"Tell me you love me."
"I love you so much."

So much for that.

As for the Star Wars-Prequels: They might never win an oscar, nevertheless each one of them gave me that kind of thing, that Spider-Man 3 failed horribly to give me: Entertainment.
You thought those lines were bad?

"You are so... beautiful."
"It's only because I'm so in love."
"No, it's because I'm so in love with you."

Yeah...look at this brilliant Star Wars dialogue...courtesy of Mr. Lucas. :wow:
 
Spider-Man 3 was terrible, plain and simple. On the long run it was just a boring movie. Never before after watching a Spider-Man movie had I experienced a feeling of relief. Relief, that the movie had finally come to an end.

I didn't like the prequels the way they were told. But much much more entertaining and much much more of something you may call a movie, even with so much CGI.
 
Just as the Leia thing can be explaind so can this.
The Leia thing was never explained since Luke asked about quote"Your mother. Your real mother."

It could be ANYTHING! You do know that after Episode 3 there were still Jedi left alive right? Vader helped the Empire hunt them down. Maybe a lot of them were killed then. Maybe a clone virus killed them all off. Maybe they all died after only a few years because they used growth exceleration on them in Episode 2.
Many people have used stories like this were the clones didn't last very long. Not every little thing has to be explained, that's what YOUR brain is for... to come up with your own ideas.
Yes, because my brain is going to come up with a logical reason why its never explained as how thousands of clone troopers disapeared so suddenly and were never seen again. I can come up with thousands of reason, but they can't turn anything this plothole created into logic.
Or how Ewoks can defeat an army with far far superior technology. An army that has the galaxy in fear.


What does fencing have to do with SW? What have we being talking about this hole time? It has EVERYTHING to do with it.
Exept the force is the main contributor in how well a jedi fights more than actually practicing fencing.

Fencing, dueling, sword fighting whatever you care to call it. What you don't get is that when you are fighting with an opponent, especially multiple opponents, you should always choose the high ground. The reason is becuase you have an advantage over him or them. You can see attacks coming from much farther away then you could on flat level ground. Just as I told you before "IF" you would have looked up Miyamoto Musashi and read some of his quotes you would know this stuff.

Ok, I must ask you this because it's bothering me. Why do you keep using words like "magical power bonus" and "bogus"? I'm not making fun of you, but you should really stop talking like that becuse it doesn't help your case and it makes me think your just a kid.
I'm flattered.

Anyway.Okay so why isn't this high ground power up never applied when Dooku is fighting both Anakin and Obi on the stairwell? Or when Windu first fights Sidious? Or when Luke is fighting Vader in ROTJ? Its brought up one time and gives Obi the magical ability to defeat Anakin in one move. Also, how was Obi able to last that long anyway when he Anakin defeated Dooku who easily took out Obi.



The books are based on George Lucus screenplays. The book goes deeper in what each charcter is thinking as they do things. You can't put EVERTHING that was in the book in the movie because it would be a five hour film.
And if I read the books I would probably like the movies alot less for how they adapted it.

Once again we are back to the same place. Maul underestimated Obi Wan, read the book! Would rather have Maul killed Obi Wan?
No. But I would rather the death be believable. Maul watched as Obi grabbed a light saber, jumped over him, land, and further stands there as Anakin slices him in half. You say your such an expert fencer yet you think this is believable?



What are you talking about? Why would Lucus read a Spiderman comic? If he did I'm sure he would have even worse things to say about that film.
Its ironic because you keep suggesting me to read the SW books yet don't think it will have the same effect.

And what plot holes in SM3? All he said was it's silly and it is in a few parts.
He said it was silly and had no story which was asinine and ironic given all the silly things in SW. Jar Jar, Sidiouses screaming Noooo while being beaten by Windu, Darth Vaders hilarious"Noooooooo", any dialogue between Anakin and Padme in SW3, and the most commonly mocked scene where Padme dies for no apparent reason. Both series have their faults.

Grand master? WTF is that? Yoda? Just so you know Yoda and Mace are almost equal.
To save some time--
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwEH8ptvV3U

How did Yoda have trouble defeating Dooku? He would have killed him if Dooku would not have ceated and tried to crush Obi Wan & Anakin.
The fact that he couldn't finish Dooku before that yet Anakin took him out so easily tells me something is up here.


Once again, if you actually knew anything beyond what you see in the films. Anakin used the Dark Side to beat Dooku just as Luke did to beat Vader in Jedi. You can't make judgement calls base on such limited knowledge. If you have a question do some research and figure it out.
I think you fail to see the fact that you're suggesting I need to read an outside source to fill in the holes tells me that the movie is lacking.

Your "plot holes" are all based on the fight scenes. I could be wrong but it sounds like you have no real knowledge about combat. So when you come at me with these kinds of "plot holes" your case has no real weight. If you want some real plot holes from SW I'll be happy to give you a few that will hold up.
Lol. Because you're SUCH an expert fencer, yet you can't admit how ludicris most of those fights were or the power difference between fighters like Obi and Anakin. Infact you want me to get info from outside sources to fill in the gaps proving my point that the movies created had its faults. You can sit there and defend it all day, but you will look no different than someone debating that there is nothing wrong with SM3 and continue by trying to fill in the gaps. Fact is both movies have their faults, but in the end that doesn't have to stop someone from liking it.
 
LOL! I can't believe one guy's opinion can stir up such controversy :D
 
I can't believe people have turned this into a Star Wars discussion thread.
 
This thread has basicly turned into "Star Wars is better!", "No Spider-man is better!", "No Star Wars is better!" disscusion. It's pointless. It's stupid.
Just love the movies you love and let other people love the movies that they love. It's so simple.
 
This thread has basicly turned into "Star Wars is better!", "No Spider-man is better!", "No Star Wars is better!" disscusion. It's pointless.
Just love the movies you love and let other people love the movies that they love. It's so simple.

But what if I only like the unaltered Original Star Wars Trilogy? The prequels as well as Lucas' butchering of his own original Star Wars movies are a complete letdown for me. Did Return of the Jedi really need a dance number that effectively stopped the pace of the narrative?
 
The Leia thing was never explained since Luke asked about quote"Your mother. Your real mother."

You have no idea what your talking about do you? At the time Luke asked Leia that question she had no idea that Padame was her real mother. So who do you think she was talking about?

Yes, because my brain is going to come up with a logical reason why its never explained as how thousands of clone troopers disapeared so suddenly and were never seen again. I can come up with thousands of reason, but they can't turn anything this plothole created into logic. Or how Ewoks can defeat an army with far far superior technology. An army that has the galaxy in fear.

You have no idea what a plot hole is and based on what you've said here I don't think you have any logical or reason.

Exept the force is the main contributor in how well a jedi fights more than actually practicing fencing.

This is the funniest thing you've said so far. LOL :woot:

Anyway. Okay so why isn't this high ground power up never applied when Dooku is fighting both Anakin and Obi on the stairwell? Or when Windu first fights Sidious? Or when Luke is fighting Vader in ROTJ? Its brought up one time and gives Obi the magical ability to defeat Anakin in one move. Also, how was Obi able to last that long anyway when he Anakin defeated Dooku who easily took out Obi.

First it's not a "POWER UP", this is not a video game or Dragon Ball Cartoon. Once again you've missed the point. I'm talking about using high ground to offset your opponent and gain an advantage. You don't go jumping thought the air because you think your more powerful than the person your fighting. Any skilled swordsman would have done the same thing Obi Wan did and you would be missing a few limbs.

And if I read the books I would probably like the movies alot less for how they adapted it.

How they adapted what? There's nothing to adapted, the book is Lucas's story just as the movie is. There is just more there becuase it's a book. In most cases the book is always better. Read Jurassic Park? Seen the movie? Which is better?

No. But I would rather the death be believable. Maul watched as Obi grabbed a light saber, jumped over him, land, and further stands there as Anakin slices him in half. You say your such an expert fencer yet you think this is believable?

Do you even know who your talking about? First you call him Obi and then Anakin. No wonder you think these are plot holes.

I never said I was an EXPERT fencer, not even once. But I do know a lot more about combat than you do. Yes, based on what I know about those two charcters (this comes from what I've READ AND SEEN!) it is believable. In real world combat, no it's not believable. Why? Because if Maul was half the swordsman he should have been Obi wan would have been missind a few limb. I guess you would have liked that huh?

Its ironic because you keep suggesting me to read the SW books yet don't think it will have the same effect.

Not just the SW books Boyo! Do something other than sitting in a theater for two hours. REAL research!


Why did you send me this? I said WHO THE F IS THAT? Not WHAT THE F IS THAT?

I know what a grand master is and it's funny that you send me a Dragon Ball cartoon to tell me what one is. Do you really even know what a grand master is in the real world?

The fact that he couldn't finish Dooku before that yet Anakin took him out so easily tells me something is up here.

I guess you missed the hole Dark Side thing.

Lol. Because you're SUCH an expert fencer, yet you can't admit how ludicris most of those fights were or the power difference between fighters like Obi and Anakin. Infact you want me to get info from outside sources to fill in the gaps proving my point that the movies created had its faults. You can sit there and defend it all day, but you will look no different than someone debating that there is nothing wrong with SM3 and continue by trying to fill in the gaps. Fact is both movies have their faults, but in the end that doesn't have to stop someone from liking it.

Nope, I was wrong this is the funniest thing you've said yet. I dont want you do anything. You do whatever you want. I was just giving you a base with which to hold up my statements.

Most of what you are calling "plot holes' are not plot holes. They are things that just don't make sense to you so in your mind they must be holes. Think outside the box, don't accept the thing that comes along.

Since you ignored my comment about the words you use and the fact that I think you might be a kid probably means you are one. Now, don't get me wrong maybe your not, but no matter how old you are I'm not comming down you. I have nothing against you man, just don't make statments about fighting or combat when the only frame of reference you have is Dragon Ball Z. Get some real world experience, do some training then talk all you want.
 
How can he even say SILLY, Has he seen the last 3 movies that he made, talk about "CORNY", And it should be illegal for the man to even say plot holes about any movie besides his own.
 
Well I think if Sam said Star Wars was silly then we would be bashing him. Fact is, George needs to keep his silly thoughts to himself and it makes it all the more funnier because of all the irony behind it.
 
It really says something when the creator of Jar Jar Binks calls something else silly.

It also says something that I agree with George Lucas, I think he's an idiot but I agree with him.
 
He also gave himself an "out" by saying everyone called Star Wars silly too. Which means he prolly thought it was a decent film. Just silly.


:thing: :doom: :thing:
 
The star wars prequels were absolute garbage!!! Just total utter wastes of film. But THANK GOD a filmmaker of his stature has the balls to just come out and say what he thinks even if it's negative. It's refreshing albeit not very smart considering how bad a director he is.
 
You have no idea what your talking about do you? At the time Luke asked Leia that question she had no idea that Padame was her real mother. So who do you think she was talking about?
But she knew she was adopted, yet answered untruthfully.



You have no idea what a plot hole is and based on what you've said here I don't think you have any logical or reason.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plothole Maybe you should read this.



This is the funniest thing you've said so far. LOL :woot:
Its funny because its true.




First it's not a "POWER UP", this is not a video game or Dragon Ball Cartoon. Once again you've missed the point. I'm talking about using high ground to offset your opponent and gain an advantage. You don't go jumping thought the air because you think your more powerful than the person your fighting. Any skilled swordsman would have done the same thing Obi Wan did and you would be missing a few limbs.
Did you even read what I said? But I guess you also missed the sarcasm when I said "power up".


[quoted]How they adapted what? There's nothing to adapted, the book is Lucas's story just as the movie is. There is just more there becuase it's a book. In most cases the book is always better. Read Jurassic Park? Seen the movie? Which is better?[/quote]
And thank you for proving my point. The movie was lacking and we aren't talking about the books.



Do you even know who your talking about? First you call him Obi and then Anakin. No wonder you think these are plot holes.
Flustered. My point still stands. No one is stupid enough to stand there while someone does all that, especially someone who was already stalemating that person and his master just seconds ago in a fight.

I never said I was an EXPERT fencer, not even once.

Again my sarcasm escapes you.

But I do know a lot more about combat than you do. Yes, based on what I know about those two charcters (this comes from what I've READ AND SEEN!) it is believable. In real world combat, no it's not believable. Why? Because if Maul was half the swordsman he should have been Obi wan would have been missind a few limb. I guess you would have liked that huh?
No. But again, they could have made the scene believable. The way Obi defeated him defys all logic.



Not just the SW books Boyo! Do something other than sitting in a theater for two hours. REAL research!

So your now telling me the movies suck without reading an outside source?




Why did you send me this? I said WHO THE F IS THAT? Not WHAT THE F IS THAT?

I know what a grand master is and it's funny that you send me a Dragon Ball cartoon to tell me what one is. Do you really even know what a grand master is in the real world?
flustered. This was my intentional link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoda
But thats in the past now. The point I established is Yoda is ranked higher than Windu.



I guess you missed the hole Dark Side thing.

What? When he turns into Vader. I remember. The whole "Nooooo" line messed that scene up. Oh! Your talking about when he became very angry and defeated Dooku. Even though in this same argument you said the force and power ups have nothing to do with SW. Brilliant.




Nope, I was wrong this is the funniest thing you've said yet. I dont want you do anything. You do whatever you want. I was just giving you a base with which to hold up my statements.

Most of what you are calling "plot holes' are not plot holes. They are things that just don't make sense to you so in your mind they must be holes. Think outside the box, don't accept the thing that comes along.

So I'm supposed to come up with the most logical way that something that is hard to understand happens in the story because theres a gap/hole in the plot that doesn't cover it. A plothole if you will?


Since you ignored my comment about the words you use and the fact that I think you might be a kid probably means you are one.

Again. I'm flattered

Now, don't get me wrong maybe your not, but no matter how old you are I'm not comming down you. I have nothing against you man, just don't make statments about fighting or combat when the only frame of reference you have is Dragon Ball Z. Get some real world experience, do some training then talk all you want.
Yes I'm going to do my super ninjas trainings and *** backs to kick ur butts. .....
No seriously. You realize why these are considered plotholes or actually I'll call the fight scenes inconsistencies for a better term? Because the person with even the smallest knowledge of sword fighting can figure out how ludicris some of these scenarios are. A guy is seriously going to watch someone flip over their head, land and slice them in half without even reacting? Give me a break. A guy who severely owned someone you lost to is going to beat you later despite no change in skill or power? Thats ridiculous. Nothing against SW, but I already know it has its share of faults which makes it so ironic that Lucas would say what he said.
 
My franchisei s better than your franchise.

Man, I think Lucas knew this would start an internet war. He is getting some nice publicity here. If he just tried to knock, Star Trek, LOTR, Pirates and Harry Potter as well we'd be set for a full on internet war that could crash the web.

Alas.
 
Holy cow it's like the battle of the nerds in here. Where's triumpth the insult dog when you need him?
 
I'm as cool as a cucumber in my refrigerator's crisper. It seems to me you are the one getting all worked up because some of us highly disagree with Lucas' statement. When you're the guy responsible for Howard the Duck, like Lucas is, you have no right to call anything silly.

If you actually read the words in my post, you'll see that I'm not getting worked up at all, clearly, you havn't seen my posts when I do get worked up. All I'm saying is, regardless of what he's done, good, bad, ugly or what ever, just like you and I he can say what ever he pleases. He can make a 2hour movie where his camera is focused solely on a piece of dog crap andstill turn around and call sm3 silly, simply because he has the freedom to do so. I get that your pissed at him but like I said, if you think Lucas is a hack or at ever then surely his words aren't even worth the time of day, yet here you are. Honestly, for someone like Lucas who according to the majority here has no right to say what he did, I dont understand why the same arguments are repeated, saying the same thing that span over 10 pages. You guys act like Lucas isn't worth it but looking at the length of this thread, I beg to differ. Fanboys just need to relax and learn when to ignore those that need ignoring.
 
Spider-Man 3 was terrible, plain and simple. On the long run it was just a boring movie. Never before after watching a Spider-Man movie had I experienced a feeling of relief. Relief, that the movie had finally come to an end.

I didn't like the prequels the way they were told. But much much more entertaining and much much more of something you may call a movie, even with so much CGI.


Wait wait wait....you're saying that Spider-Man 3 was "terrible", all while defending Episodes 1-3?!

WOW. That's just...wow...Spider-Man 3 featured a coherent plot and no Hayden Christensen or Jar Jar....Spider-Man 3 wins.
 
But what if I only like the unaltered Original Star Wars Trilogy? The prequels as well as Lucas' butchering of his own original Star Wars movies are a complete letdown for me. Did Return of the Jedi really need a dance number that effectively stopped the pace of the narrative?

What does this have to do with Spider-man 3 again?

How can he even say SILLY, Has he seen the last 3 movies that he made, talk about "CORNY", And it should be illegal for the man to even say plot holes about any movie besides his own.
This comment. Wow. Now that's what I call silly. Sorry, but your dream wont come true because in the country both you and me reside in we have a thing called the first ammendment.
 
I'm getting tired of talking about turkey neck.


Peter Jackson has defeated him in the battle of weight loss

Sam Raimi has defeated him in the battle of the box office
 

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