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I'd say this: don't focus on how much time he is or is not in the film, focus on everything else the movie presents and all the other characters and conflicts, and enjoy the build to the last battle. I'd say it's more than worth the wait.
I will focus on the film. But this movie is called Godzilla. If it plays out like Jackson's King Kong, where we spend far too much time with superfluous and boring humans and far too little with Kong in comparison, I am going to be disappointed.
 
Watanabe's character says some mumbo jumbo about how nature balances itself out and he believes Godzilla is there to balance out the other monsters. The military of course wants to nuke all three of them.

Godzilla is portrayed more as a friend than foe to the humans. After he kills the other monsters, he leaves the city peacefully and that's when they flash the cheesy sign about him being the hero of the city. This is not 1954 Godzilla trashing the place just for the hell of it. 2014 Godzilla seems to go out of his way NOT to do that.

He's almost like Gamera.
 
I will focus on the film. But this movie is called Godzilla. If it plays out like Jackson's King Kong, where we spend far too much time with superfluous and boring humans and far too little with Kong in comparison, I am going to be disappointed.

As flawed as Kong is, at least he gets the most screentime of all the monsters in the film. The same is not true of Godzilla 2014. Almost all of his screen time is spent fighting the two other monsters at the end, while both of the "bad guy" monsters get a bunch of screentime during the first two acts. Godzilla is nowhere to be found except clunky exposition from Watanabe and other human characters.
 
Sorry to hijack this post but to respond to Darth, I agree about going in not expecting how much he is in the film. But for me all of the above was not worth it or hardly worth it.
To each his own, I greatly enjoyed it. I found myself very invested in the main characters, which sort of surprised me. All the actors, save for a few of the scientists, did a wonderful job in my opinion.
I will focus on the film. But this movie is called Godzilla. If it plays out like Jackson's King Kong, where we spend far too much time with superfluous and boring humans and far too little with Kong in comparison, I am going to be disappointed.

Some have described the characters as boring and superfluous, but I definitely wouldn't. Not sure how you'll feel, but if it makes you feel any better I literally fell asleep in the theatre watching King Kong and was on the edge of my seat for Godzilla. So hey, ya never know!
Also, several parts of the movie got a big applause from my audience. I usually get annoyed at that sort of thing, but this film earned it. I haven't seen a movie that's this much of a crowd pleaser since the Avengers.
 
This film was such a disappointment. Never been a Godzilla fan, but the trailers got me very excited for this movie. It made it seem like this would be a blockbuster that put story and character before cheap thrills and explosions.

Unfortunately, the all-star cast is utterly wasted in underwritten, one-dimensional bit parts. The plot follows the standard formula for these kinds of movies. The action and suspense are all handled very well, much better than any other big Hollywood film in recent memory, but it doesn't have much of an impact when the story doesn't deliver.

7/10. Enjoyable enough while you're watching it, but immediately forgettable once it's over. Say what you will about King Kong, but at least the movie had a message, it had a point to it. I have no idea what the purpose of this movie was supposed to be.
 
I'd say this: don't focus on how much time he is or is not in the film, focus on everything else the movie presents and all the other characters and conflicts, and enjoy the build to the last battle. I'd say it's more than worth the wait.


I enjoyed Cranston's parts very much and wasnt missing Godzilla at all. Aaron's parts (which makes up majority of the film) bored me to tears, and left me beggng for more Godzilla.:csad:
 
To each his own, I greatly enjoyed it. I found myself very invested in the main characters, which sort of surprised me. All the actors, save for a few of the scientists, did a wonderful job in my opinion.

I was very much into [BLACKOUT]Cranston and Binoche's characters but once they were gone, ATJ and company did not fill that void.[/BLACKOUT] So in effect the 2nd act dragged so much for me.
 
Not that this should have any basis on how you guys judge the movie but I can guarantee that you guys would have the same if not worse issues with some of the Heisei era Godzilla films which I personally love and have been watching all day today on Encore.
 
To each his own, I greatly enjoyed it. I found myself very invested in the main characters, which sort of surprised me. All the actors, save for a few of the scientists, did a wonderful job in my opinion.


Some have described the characters as boring and superfluous, but I definitely wouldn't. Not sure how you'll feel, but if it makes you feel any better I literally fell asleep in the theatre watching King Kong and was on the edge of my seat for Godzilla. So hey, ya never know!
Also, several parts of the movie got a big applause from my audience. I usually get annoyed at that sort of thing, but this film earned it. I haven't seen a movie that's this much of a crowd pleaser since the Avengers.
I shall see tomorrow. But the sharp downturn on RT and reaction in this thread has me far less hyped. Especially considering how their forum has been building the film up the last year.
 
Despite being bored with large parts of the movie, the Godzilla and Bryan Cranston scenes were awesome, and still managed to have a score of 7/10 from me.
 
Not that this should have any basis on how you guys judge the movie but I can guarantee that you guys would have the same if not worse issues with some of the Heisei era Godzilla films which I personally love and have been watching all day today on Encore.
I am not really that big into Godzilla. I like a few of the films. I was hoping for something Batman Begins or Casino Royale here. A new take on the material that is far more cinematic, with credible plot, characters and writing.
 
This is hyperbole but the 2nd and 3rd act boils down to [BLACKOUT]the military arming a nuke to destroy them, then saying oh s**t we need to disarm before it kills everybody.[/BLACKOUT]

This is in regards to the human side of the story of course.
 
Cannot wait to see this saturdayyyyyy. I already know I'm gonna love it. The less is more approach. Everything just to me sounds like exactly what I want.
 
I am not really that big into Godzilla. I like a few of the films. I was hoping for something Batman Begins or Casino Royale here. A new take on the material that is far more cinematic, with credible plot, characters and writing.

Those movies focused far more on the title character than Godzilla 2014 does. It's a lot better than the '98 movie, but that is one of the worst movies ever made. The story could have and should have been much better.

Primary goal of a reboot should be to capture the essence of a character. They sort of skipped the essence of Godzilla and went straight to the cash grab retread sequel version we've seen for the last 40 years from Toho.

The essence of the character is in that 1954 film. A lot of it is missing in the 2014 movie IMHO. He's too much of a "nice guy" and he isn't the most important aspect of the story for about 85% of the runtime.

What was so great about the '54 film is he doesn't have a lot of screentime but his presence is felt in every scene. Wish I could say the same for the new movie.
 
Those movies focused far more on the title character than Godzilla 2014 does. It's a lot better than the '98 movie, but that is one of the worst movies ever made. The story could have and should have been much better.

Primary goal of a reboot should be to capture the essence of a character. They sort of skipped the essence of Godzilla and went straight to the cash grab retread sequel version we've seen for the last 40 years from Toho.

The essence of the character is in that 1954 film. A lot of it is missing in the 2014 movie IMHO. He's too much of a "nice guy" and he isn't the most important aspect of the story for about 85% of the runtime.

What was so great about the '54 film is he doesn't have a lot of screentime but his presence is felt in every scene. Wish I could say the same for the new movie.
I agree with your views on the character. I guess I'll know how I feel tomorrow. Thanks. :up:
 
Those movies focused far more on the title character than Godzilla 2014 does. It's a lot better than the '98 movie, but that is one of the worst movies ever made. The story could have and should have been much better.

Primary goal of a reboot should be to capture the essence of a character. They sort of skipped the essence of Godzilla and went straight to the cash grab retread sequel version we've seen for the last 40 years from Toho.

The essence of the character is in that 1954 film. A lot of it is missing in the 2014 movie IMHO. He's too much of a "nice guy" and he isn't the most important aspect of the story for about 85% of the runtime.

What was so great about the '54 film is he doesn't have a lot of screentime but his presence is felt in every scene. Wish I could say the same for the new movie.
That's completely wrong.

I'll just use Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla (93) as an example. You have the Godzilla Jr sub plot, Mechagodzilla, Rodan, the G pilots and not to mention the constantly reoccurring bit with Miki the psychic. The villains (the MUTO's in '14's case) or Godzilla's adversaries in those films get a ton of time. The pilots controlling Mechagodzilla along with the whole Asuza and Baby Godzilla schtick take over that film easily.

The major "fight" scenes are also almost always saved for the last act as a climax so that being another point of complaint from fans seems a little off for me.

So it's very much comparable if you ask me.
 
That's completely wrong.

I'll just use Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla (93) as an example. You have the Godzilla Jr sub plot, Mechagodzilla, Rodan, the G pilots and not to mention the constantly reoccurring bit with Miki the psychic. The villains (the MUTO's in '14's case) or Godzilla's adversaries in those films get a ton of time. The pilots controlling Mechagodzilla along with the whole Asuza and Baby Godzilla schtick take over that film easily.

The major "fight" scenes are also almost always saved for the last act as a climax so that being another point of complaint from fans seems a little off for me.

So it's very much comparable if you ask me.

Did you accidentally respond to something else? You bolded part of my post and said it was completely wrong, even though that part of my post was a response to someone else's comment on Batman Begins and Casino Royale. I compared the two of them with Godzilla 2014. My comparison is completely valid. You haven't even seen it yet, right?
 
Thought when you wrote "those movies" you meant the Heisei era films. That's why nowhere in my post do I even acknowledge BB or Casino Royale. :funny:
 
Thought when you wrote "those movies" you meant the Heisei era films. My mistake.

Nah, he was saying he was hoping for a BB/CR type reboot. I feel those reboots did a great job of heavily focusing on the title characters, whereas unfortunately GZ2014 feels like the writers were more interested in focusing on other characters.
 
Ugh so many spoilers here. I came to see what the midnight BO numbers are.
 
From the perspective of a Godzilla fanatic, the film was better than Godzilla 98 and I liked it a lot more than Final Wars. That said, it has a number of flaws.

The biggest flaw I think is that the film presents a creature that looks, sounds and moves like Godzilla, but acts like Gamera. He goes way out of his way, taking missiles to the face and tank rounds to the gut, but refuses to respond to the human aggression. He even makes eye contact with the human hero ATJ after ATJ saves Godzilla from the MUTOs by blowing up the MUTO nest. This totally flies in the face of the promotional material and interviews.

The second biggest flaw is that Godzilla should not need saving by a human. He shouldn't have been curb stomped by the two MUTOs. Even the first time he fires his breath weapon it was not a game changer, that was precisely when he got stomped to street level and then ATJ happens to blow up the MUTO nest and distract momma MUTO from stomping Godzilla's face in. Only after the two MUTOs were separated was Big G able to recover and lay the smack down with his tail to Daddy MUTO.

I agree the fight teases were annoying. It would have been better if Papa MUTO had simply flew away when Big G showed up at the airport. I also agree the film's plot should have been more Godzilla driven, even maybe an origin film, e.g. Godzilla Begins.

A few other nitpicks: That American supercarrier has multiple nuclear reactors on it. Why didn't the MUTO's try to eat it? Why didn't they use it as bait? Why didn't the MUTO's nest at Yucca flats? It is the most radioactive place on earth, perfect for a MUTO nest. It could have also made the final battle quite interesting being around Vegas, Nellis AFB, Hoover Dam, etc. Why didn't they use a nuclear sub as bait? They're full of nukes, plus the reactor. Ok, I'll stop being an Acolyte of Momus. :D

Overall, cool movie, I still like Godzilla 84 better though.
 
So Max Borenstein is the next Lindelof?? At least Prometheus and WWZ are entertaining. Godzilla is just boring and... y'know extremely dissapoiting.
 
Dat hyperbole. Godzilla boring? F*** that, I'm out of here.
 
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