Godzilla (2014) - - - - Part 13

[DarthSkywalker]

Yep Monday being a Holliday will help in the short term. I'm still trying to get over a film dropping 66% during a Holliday weekend. It's Sunday was inflated for goodness sake.

This is what an inflated Sunday looks like for Godzilla, by God.

 

[GremlinZilla89]

I honestly don't see how that's too big of a drop. It's actually better than I would have thought with X-Men being released and an Adam Sandler film being released (which usually make bank on the first weekend) so a 30mil haul is pretty impressive-considering the so called "bad word of mouth."

 

[X Knight]

hopefully Godzilla can at least get to $200m.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I honestly don't see how that's too big of a drop. It's actually better than I would have thought with X-Men being released and an Adam Sandler film being released (which usually make bank on the first weekend) so a 30mil haul is pretty impressive-considering the so called "bad word of mouth."

Neither of those films did the kind of numbers that would have prevented Godzilla from having a much bigger weekend, especially with the holiday (inflates Sunday's number). If people really liked it last week, the number would have not been that bad.

 

[X Knight]

we'll see if it can stabilize in the coming weeks.

next weekend we've got Maleficent, although I'm not sure how much of a threat that could be.

I could see DOFP retaining the top spot, with Maleficent coming in #2, and Godzilla hanging in at #3.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Maleficent should at least get 50-55mil opening weekend which will be enough to grab the number one spot. X-Men will be fighting with A Million Ways to Die in the West for the number 2 slot. I think X-Men will win out but who knows? I have no idea what Big G will drop, I guess I see a 50-55% drop next weekend.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I hadn't seen the overseas numbers until now, but wow Godzilla fell huge everywhere. It dropped 67%, for only $34.5m. That is massive, and that is a bad, bad WOM.

we'll see if it can stabilize in the coming weeks.

next weekend we've got Maleficent, although I'm not sure how much of a threat that could be.

I could see DOFP retaining the top spot, with Maleficent coming in #2, and Godzilla hanging in at #3.

It won't stabilize. Too many releases the next 3 weeks. Each week has a potential "big" film and a sleeper.

Maleficent
A Million Ways to Die in the West

Edge of Tomorrow
The Fault in Our Stars

How to Train Your Dragon 2
22 Jump Street

There isn't a very good chance Godzilla is in third next week, with A Million Ways to Die in the West coming out. DoFP would need an incredibly good holdover or for Maleficent to "bomb" to hold onto #1 next weekend. I may very well be wrong, but I can't see Maleficent opening under $50m.

 

[X Knight]

well, we'll see.

they've already announced Godzilla will be getting a sequel, so that's most important.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

well, we'll see.

they've already announced Godzilla will be getting a sequel, so that's most important.

Yes it will get a sequel. How much of a budget that sequel gets depends on these numbers, and right now they are praying China and Japan do huge.

 

[GremlinZilla89]

Neither of those films did the kind of numbers that would have prevented Godzilla from having a much bigger weekend, especially with the holiday (inflates Sunday's number). If people really liked it last week, the number would have not been that bad.

Considering pretty much everything has had a big drop the following week, I don't see this is indicative of the films quality. If anything, it's viewership as a whole...not the films. Nothing seems to be making quit as much as people predict/hope. A 31mil take facing a tried and true franchise and a popular comedian/actor who usually pulls big numbers ain't bad at all. Stop making the film seem like some massive failure when it's not.

 

[regnak]

Neither of those films did the kind of numbers that would have prevented Godzilla from having a much bigger weekend, especially with the holiday (inflates Sunday's number). If people really liked it last week, the number would have not been that bad.

Blockbusters aren't normally released back to back because they cannibalize each others BO. Godzilla has better reviews than ASM2 and is slightly (74% vs 72%) better liked by the audience on RT. I think it quite reasonable to believe it would have dropped something like ASM2's 61% if it had the week free of big competition. Isn't a big X-Men movie worth a few % points? I think so.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

No one is saying the film is a massive failure we are saying the drop is horrible, which it is. That is a fact.

If you think that a film dropping 66% on a non record breaking Holliday weekend isn't bad then I don't know what to say.

 

[X Knight]

I'm kind of surprised that DOFP actually fell a tad below Godzilla's opening #s. ( we'll see what the real numbers are Tuesday. ).

with all the hype and positive buzz and reviews, I expected DOFP to open much closer to the $100m mark.

 

[GremlinZilla89]

For a non-sequel, non-franchise a 31mil second weekend against two big films is impressive. Simple as that.

Ya, I know Godzilla is a franchise, but he doesn't have mass appeal here in the US aside from a cult fanbase.

 

[X Knight]

No one is saying the film is a massive failure we are saying the drop is horrible, which it is. That is a fact.

and let's see if DOFP has a similar drop next week.

 

[GremlinZilla89]

No one is saying the film is a massive failure we are saying the drop is horrible, which it is. That is a fact.

No...it's really not.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

No...it's really not.

You can't argue against reality because you like this film.

 

[GremlinZilla89]

and let's see if DOFP has a similar drop next week.

It won't be as big, but it'll be substantial I think. Maleficent and A Million Ways To Die In the West look to be decent money makers.

 

[GremlinZilla89]

You can't argue against reality because you like this film.

I don't see how it's reality in any way shape or form.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Of course X-Men is going to have a big drop, X-Men movies never have legs.

I don't see how it's reality in any way shape or form.

Of course you don't because you have buried your head in the sand. It's not enough for you that a sequel is coming anyway, you have to make believe the film is liked by the vast majority of people who saw it. If Blended actually made money and X-Men actually lived up to expectations then yes the drop would have been semi understandable. I still would consider the word of mouth mixed but the drop would have been more understandable.

 

[John Locke]

Although if there were ever an X-Men movie to have legs it's this one.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Considering pretty much everything has had a big drop the following week, I don't see this is indicative of the films quality. If anything, it's viewership as a whole...not the films. Nothing seems to be making quit as much as people predict/hope. A 31mil take facing a tried and true franchise and a popular comedian/actor who usually pulls big numbers ain't bad at all. Stop making the film seem like some massive failure when it's not.

No one said it was a massive failure, but it is clear you don't know how to read box office numbers.

Blockbusters aren't normally released back to back because they cannibalize each others BO. Godzilla has better reviews than ASM2 and is slightly (74% vs 72%) better liked by the audience on RT. I think it quite reasonable to believe it would have dropped something like ASM2's 61% if it had the week free of big competition. Isn't a big X-Men movie worth a few % points? I think so.

It has actually become very common place the last few years for these films to stack. That is a problem, but the films that get great WOM have legs. They aren't the same kind of legs films use to have, but this is bad.

Even if Godzilla had opened with a 60% drop, it would have been bad. It opened under $100m, which means it is not falling from the mountain top. A movie like Catching Fire or IM3 can fall 70% because they open so big. Godzilla's opening wasn't close to that.

For a non-sequel, non-franchise a 31mil second weekend against two big films is impressive. Simple as that.

Ya, I know Godzilla is a franchise, but he doesn't have mass appeal here in the US aside from a cult fanbase.

According to who, you? Because it is being reported as a huge fall for a reason. As Mojo put it,

In second place, Godzilla plummeted 66 percent to $31.4 million. While that decline is a bit better than Cloverfield's 68 percent, it's still much worse than most comparable titles. Thanks to strong marketing, moviegoers rushed out last weekend; unfortunately, the movie they saw wasn't exactly what was advertised. Combine that weak word-of-mouth with tough competition from X-Men, and a steep drop was in order. The movie has now earned $148.8 million, and is on pace to finish between $205 and $225 million.

Godzilla added $34.5 million overseas, which is a massive 67 percent decline from last weekend. Its biggest market was the U.K. with $4.3 million. So far, the movie has earned $166.6 million, and will ultimately get past $200 million from its existing territories. It's going to need huge results from China and Japan to get anywhere close to $400 million overseas.

http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3848&p=.htm

 

[X Knight]

if Godzilla really wanted to have BO legs, then what he clearly needed to do was let his hair down, act all sexy, and belt out LET IT GO!!!!

 

[Donut]

Godzillas partner in the next one should be Steve McGarrett. He would tackle the monsters while Godzilla uses Fire Breath for the finishing move

 

[X Knight]

No one said it was a massive failure, but it is clear you don't know how to read box office numbers.


It has actually become very common place the last few years for these films to stack. That is a problem, but the films that get great WOM have legs. They aren't the same kind of legs films use to have, but this is bad.

Even if Godzilla had opened with a 60% drop, it would have been bad. It opened under $100m, which means it is not falling from the mountain top. A movie like Catching Fire or IM3 can fall 70% because they open so big. Godzilla's opening wasn't close to that.


According to who, you? Because it is being reported as a huge fall for a reason. As Mojo put it,




http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3848&p=.htm

hey, if it can end in the $205 - $225m range, I think that's fairly respectable when all is said and done.