Godzilla (2014) - - - - Part 13

[I SEE SPIDEY]

No one is calling it a failure. Stop saying that.

But these numbers show exactly why if people were truly into, it would have made more money. The same weekend last year...
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?yr=2014&wknd=21&p=.htm

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?yr=2013&wknd=21&p=.htm

Last year the combined number for all films was $70m more. Star Trek Into Darkness opened under Godzilla in the same slot, and up against three films that made $97.3m, $41.6m, and $33.5m each, it still made $37.3m in its second weekend. And Star Trek Into Darkness was a big disappointment.

There was plenty of money out there left on the table by everyone. Godzilla however is the one in its second weekend, and dropped like a stone for no other reason then people didn't go see it.

Also Godzilla wasn't a sequel so there was literally no reason for such an extreme drop...except for the obvious reason of course. Psst... It's bad word of mouth.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Agree, this film works as a stand alone nicely. The audience is there and im sure every one is reading all the feedback about the film and hopefully they will try to work on the criticism. MOS had even a bigger drop if i recall, it went with a lot of competition the following weekend, i think this summer dates are really getting over crowded, if the movie doesn't hit almost a 100 mil from start it will be hard to get legs

MOS had mixed WOM. But it opened very well, and faced two films that combined to make $150m in its second weekend.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Also Godzilla wasn't a sequel so there was literally no reason for such an extreme drop...except for the obvious reason of course. Psst... It's bad word of mouth.

Numbers never lie.

Also last year, IM3 was in its 4th week made $19.3m. If people want to see these films, they go.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Numbers never lie.

Also last year, IM3 was in its 4th week made $19.3m. If people want to see these films, they go.

They never lie.

Oh and by the way, I loved Man of Steel but a sequel without Batman would have made less than 668mil worldwide. See you can be a huge fan of a movie and acknowledge reality, I do it everyday!

 

[Jaspertian1105]

Yes the WOM wasn't the best for sure, don't know why. People were excepting one fight after another maybe , but i like the approach of this movie. Probably was the minority , still there seems to be a lower attendance overall , XMen should have done bigger business with its WOM , i just hope we can see the big G again some day, he looked really adorable (which i didn't expect honestly)

 

[Lighthouse]

Also Godzilla wasn't a sequel so there was literally no reason for such an extreme drop...except for the obvious reason of course. Psst... It's bad word of mouth.

That was certainly part of it, but you cannot deny Days of Future Past is an event film. First Class did not do that well. 146 million. 56 percent drop. People weren't that excited about it. You reunite the original cast, the new cast and Bryan Singer, that's a massive draw and devastating competition. WOM no doubt has an effect here, but I think leaving DOFP out as competition is also not being quite fair.

 

[Sithborg]

As bad as the drop was, I still take the moral victory over beating Blended.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

They never lie.

Oh and by the way, I loved Man of Steel but a sequel without Batman would have made less than 668mil worldwide. See you can be a huge fan of a movie and acknowledge reality, I do it everyday!

I think it could have made more OS, but domestically, it would have fell. But now with Batman, it could be a true monster. We will see.

Yes the WOM wasn't the best for sure, don't know why. People were excepting one fight after another maybe , but i like the approach of this movie. Probably was the minority , still there seems to be a lower attendance overall , XMen should have done bigger business with its WOM , i just hope we can see the big G again some day, he looked really adorable (which i didn't expect honestly)

I don't think Godzilla was the problem at all. If there was one thing in the movie that worked, it was Godzilla. The fights were a bit weak, but Godzilla was awesome. It is simply a weak script, that doesn't really work outside of the Godzilla scenes.

I also agree that he was absolutely adorable. Chubby Godzilla is awesome

 

[DarthSkywalker]

That was certainly part of it, but you cannot deny Days of Future Past is an event film. First Class did not do that well. 146 million. 56 percent drop. People weren't that excited about it. You reunite the original cast, the new cast and Bryan Singer, that's a massive draw and devastating competition. WOM no doubt has an effect here, but I think leaving DOFP out as competition is also not being quite fair.

What you are missing here is that this same weekend last year had $70m more overall box office. There was plenty of money to be made for the top three films.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

That was certainly part of it, but you cannot deny Days of Future Past is an event film. First Class did not do that well. 146 million. 56 percent drop. People weren't that excited about it. You reunite the original cast, the new cast and Bryan Singer, that's a massive draw and devastating competition. WOM no doubt has an effect here, but I think leaving DOFP out as competition is also not being quite fair.

I am not leaving out the competition component.

 

[Spade]

Future Past was always going to clean house. The ho-hum response from audiences didn't help. If anything, I'm more surprised that Blended underperformed. Sandler's last film had terrible reviews, went against Despicable Me 2, and still made bank.

 

[Lighthouse]

What you are missing here is that this same weekend last year had $70m more overall box office. There was plenty of money to be made for the top three films.

That summer had Iron Man 3, Gatsby, Star Trek: Into Darkness, and just starting FF6. That is a much hotter bowl of stew than what happened this weekend.

 

[Jaspertian1105]

I think it could have made more OS, but domestically, it would have fell. But now with Batman, it could be a true monster. We will see.


I don't think Godzilla was the problem at all. If there was one thing in the movie that worked, it was Godzilla. The fights were a bit weak, but Godzilla was awesome. It is simply a weak script, that doesn't really work outside of the Godzilla scenes.

I also agree that he was absolutely adorable. Chubby Godzilla is awesome

I loved the fights personally, and chubby Godzilla rules overall. The film was shot incredibly well, even more impressive for a second time director. The script made a couple of mistakes for sure (Specially one mistake which would have made the movie even more solid), that aspect should be looked more closely for future installments but i didn't saw over acting like Pac Rim were humans were basically cartoon characters. Its very hard in this kind of movies to pull off the human element perfectly, so i hope Edwards gets more solid ground with Star Wars and improves in some areas, but overall i think he is a great director and will learn from the experience

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Future Past was always going to clean house. The ho-hum response from audiences didn't help. If anything, I'm more surprised that Blended underperformed. Sandler's last film had terrible reviews, went against Despicable Me 2, and still made bank.

Grown Ups 2 was a sequel to a film people liked. I didn't, but its target market certainly did. Sandler's more "solo" efforts have been falling for awhile now.

I loved the fights personally, and chubby Godzilla rules overall. The film was shot incredibly well, even more impressive for a second time director. The script made a couple of mistakes for sure (Specially one mistake which would have made the movie even more solid), that aspect should be looked more closely for future installments but i didn't saw over acting like Pac Rim were humans were basically cartoon characters. Its very hard in this kind of movies to pull off the human element perfectly, so i hope Edwards gets more solid ground with Star Wars and improves in some areas, but overall i think he is a great director and will learn from the experience

Pacific Rim embraced its roots, and was more vibrate and fun for its effort imo.

I think Edwards has an eye for a shot, but I am not sure he is the strongest with actors or editing. But the biggest problem here for me was definitely the script, not the direction. I thought the cinematography was strong as well.

 

[Lighthouse]

Off Topic: Checking consistent weekly drops, Hangover III went down HARD. Wow!

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Off Topic: Checking consistent weekly drops, Hangover III went down HARD. Wow!

Yeah, that film is the definition of bad WOM and coming off a film people didn't like. It opened well, but once people realized it was more Hangover II then the first film, it died very quickly. Hangover II opened huge thanks to the first film, but it is telling that it didn't get to the first domestically. It wasn't nearly as well received.

That is what I SEE SPIDEY is talking about with the Godzilla sequel. A lukewarm or bad reception doesn't just hurt this film's leg, but a sequel's opening as well.

 

[Jaspertian1105]

Grown Ups 2 was a sequel to a film people liked. I didn't, but its target market certainly did. Sandler's more "solo" efforts have been falling for awhile now.


Pacific Rim embraced its roots, and was more vibrate and fun for its effort imo.

I think Edwards has an eye for a shot, but I am not sure he is the strongest with actors or editing. But the biggest problem here for me was definitely the script, not the direction. I thought the cinematography was strong as well.

For a second movie is pretty impressive what he pulled off, it could have ended up in a I Frankenstein sort of mess, but i think he has great potential as a director. It was refreshing not to see shaky cam at all and all was shot really clearly. I thought the actors delivered with the script they had, but i the lead was the biggest mistake, it just wasn't there. I was fearing for a horrible bomb from the start , seeing the 98 zilla version in cinemas , but i hope the franchise is allowed to grow. They gave Batman that chance and i thought this was a better movie, even though they are completely different genera

 

[Jaspertian1105]

Wait did Xmen just cost 200 million? wasn't the most expensive movie FOX ever made? I thought they said something like that at Comic Con, i thought it was much more expensive

 

[X Knight]

hopefully they will take in all the legit and constructive criticism and make a better sequel.

they can keep the same tone and go for the "less is more" approach when it comes to showing the monsters ( to an extent ).

however, the teasing has to go. if anything, I think that hurts subsequent viewings, because we really only got one big fight at the end. so you have to sit through the rest of the movie to get to that payoff.

whereas if there had been multiple rounds of shorter yet still cool fights, then that would have made the pacing of the film better and given people more incentive to see it again. there would have been more to enjoy throughout the entire film, instead of just the end.

 

[Arach Knight]

Godzilla has already made more than Pacific Rim domestically. Even with the bad legs, it's going to make a lot more than Pacific Rim.

Godzilla has seen a steep decline both domestically and internationally. Negative word of mouth has done most of the damage (according to Box Office Mojo/Cinema Score). Godzilla was very front loaded, but now that it has direct competition plus an informed public, it isn't likely to dominate Pacific Rim's $490 million. Godzilla is currently at $315 million. It needs an additional $175 million just to match Pacific Rim. Assuming that the film goes over well in Japan, this film could top out around $550 million.

 

[Liam_H]

I wish Pacific Rim made that much.

 

[mikeboydus]

I don't see Godzilla beating Pacific Rim globally.

Some reasons why:

1. Godzilla's marketing was deliberately deceptive. Entire scenes were created specifically for just the trailers and then changed in the film. People around the world expected Godzilla, based on the trailers, to lay the smack down on the US. The trailers presented a US based Hydra like conspiracy and cover up. The US did not look heroic at all in the trailers. The trailers also presented an apocalyptic film, very dark and horrific. The actual film on the other hand was totally the opposite.

2. Pacific Rim had an international response to the Kaiju, something Godzilla desperately needed. In a real world giant monster attack, the UN, NATO, Russia, China, Etc. would all be involved like they were in Pacific Rim.

3. Part of the reason why Captain America Winter Soldier, The Dark Knight, The Dark Knight Rises and Iron Man 3 were so successful overseas was subversion of the US and its policies. Godzilla promised that in the trailers but didn't pay off in the film.

4. Lastly is spectacle, this is why films like Transformers and Avengers do so well. Godzilla had about 15 minutes of it and the first time it was presented it was snatched away.

 

[Travesty]

Just got out of it for the first time. I liked it. I thought Cranston was going to be in it more, but other than that, it was a fun movie.

I'm guessing most here didn't like it?

 

[-Arya-]

Just got out of it for the first time. I liked it. I thought Cranston was going to be in it more, but other than that, it was a fun movie.

I'm guessing most here didn't like it?

I wouldn't say most, but there are plenty who didn't. I personally liked it.

 

[Drz]

I like how the tune has changed after 1 week in this film. It was amusing to see the Gareth-fans insulting Godzilla fans lol.