Godzilla (2014) - - - - Part 13

[DA_Champion]

^ This right here. I'm not one to hate but Emmerich's movies are all just big action pieces & that's it.

Sorry, but there's more to a movie than just action. And even if a movie is a big action fest, there should still be some heart involved and something else more interesting to it.

Emmerich's movies do not offer anything beyond the action. Hence, brain dead filmography.

That's why it baffles me that people are so up in arms about how this movie was handled. They say they want character development & the like, but when it happens it's "boring, uninteresting, and bland."

It's truly a catch 22...there really is no pleasing some people. They're gonna complain no matter what route you take.

It's a real stretch to argue that the human elements in Godzilla 2014 exceed those of 10,000 BC or Independence Day.

Godzilla 2014 succeeds neither in the action department nor in the human department, that's why the response is lukewarm at best.

As for your edict against pure action movies: total nonsense. A movie can be anything and pure spectacles are a legitimate form.

 

[-Arya-]

Having seen Pacific Rim again tonight, I have to say that it edges out Godzilla just a bit. It's more exciting and the characters are more likeable. Mako mori alone was better than most of the characters from Godzilla. Having said that, both films suffer from poorly written characters in general. At least in Pacific Rim, despite having many action scenes, it was handled in a way where it didn't get too repetitive. I don't think Gareth needed to tease those earlier fights in Godzilla in order to quell the fear of monster mayhem burnout. But alas, it was the direction he decided to go with. On the other hand, the tension leading up to that final fight was very satisfying. I think if I see Godzilla one more time, it will give me a better understanding about its strengths and weaknesses relative to PR.

 

[Wildcard]

It's a real stretch to argue that the human elements in Godzilla 2014 exceed those of 10,000 BC or Independence Day.

Godzilla 2014 succeeds neither in the action department nor in the human department, that's why the response is lukewarm at best.

As for your edict against pure action movies: total nonsense. A movie can be anything and pure spectacles are a legitimate form.

Okay, first of all the human elements do exceed anything seen in 10,000 BC or Independence Day, the former of which was so crappy & all over the place from start to finish. I remember, I was there opening day. Absolutely none of the actors were good...I don't even remember who was in the damn movie.

And you say that as if its an unmitigated fact, which it isn't. Point blank, you could have an argument with ID, but 10,000 B.C.? Of all the movies you could choose that's one of your choices? Automatically makes the first two statements invalid.

Also, did I say that about all action movies? No, I said that about Emmerich's movies. That's the importance of reading a post thoroughly and comprehending it completely rather than making your own left-field assertions.

Thanks, try again.

 

[Synner]

Saying Sharknado > Godzilla is a ****ing travesty and disaster of a thought.

Also Hulk-1700, you're just wrong lol. Deal with it.

 

[DeadPresident]

It's a real stretch to argue that the human elements in Godzilla 2014 exceed those of 10,000 BC or Independence Day.

Godzilla 2014 succeeds neither in the action department nor in the human department, that's why the response is lukewarm at best.

As for your edict against pure action movies: total nonsense. A movie can be anything and pure spectacles are a legitimate form.

Hmmm, I'm not sure about that. I think the acting in Godzilla is a lot better, the narrative trajectory and how they handled Cranston's inclusion makes people react badly to it. I think a large amount of people are using the "characters were ****ty" argument as a response to not having enough Godzilla in the movie. It's almost become a meme, certainly the "ATJ is wooden" has become a meme, people don't even really consider what they disliked about the movie and just randomly select criticisms they've come across.

The more I think about it the more I think having Cranston in the entire movie would have drastically changed people's reaction to the movie. I think the screen time he's given combined with how relevant he was to the story makes

Spoiler

his death

detract from the movie a lot. And if there was more Cranston there would have been less screen time for these horribly acted characters everyone hates so much.

 

[DA_Champion]

Binoche and Cranston were great but were in there for ten minutes.

After that, Elizabeth Olsen was beautiful and fun, but not part of the plot. ATJ is an actor that nobody will remember in ten years.

Having very little Godzilla would be fine if the human story was good.

 

[Donut]

Funny how fan boys convince themselves with their own reasoning with why people did not like this movie or any movie they like that is universally not so liked. I guess whatever helps them sleep at night

 

[Rowsdower!]

Binoche and Cranston were great but were in there for ten minutes.

After that, Elizabeth Olsen was beautiful and fun, but not part of the plot. ATJ is an actor that nobody will remember in ten years.

Having very little Godzilla would be fine if the human story was good.

I agree with almost all of that, except the ATJ part. I think he's a great actor, but his character wasn't very interesting. I think he tried his best, but the writing really failed him.

 

[redhawk23]

Inflatable Godzilla suits.

 

[DeadPresident]

Inflatable Godzilla suits.

Oh snap...this exists.

Side note: Why is Godzilla wearing Rorschach's boots?

 

[Rowsdower!]

LOL

Godzilla's feet should look like that in the next movie.

 

[DeadPresident]

Haha "The world will look up and shout: Don't atomic breath us!...

And I'll whisper: No".

 

[Loki882]

It's a real stretch to argue that the human elements in Godzilla 2014 exceed those of 10,000 BC or Independence Day.

Godzilla 2014 succeeds neither in the action department nor in the human department, that's why the response is lukewarm at best.

As for your edict against pure action movies: total nonsense. A movie can be anything and pure spectacles are a legitimate form.

If that were actually true, then you wouldn't have so many people constantly complain about movies that are "nothing but action." Sorry, but you need more than that, if only to actually give two craps about the action and the characters involved in it.

 

[Wildcard]

Saying Sharknado > Godzilla is a ****ing travesty and disaster of a thought.

Also Hulk-1700, you're just wrong lol. Deal with it.

Who are you?

Binoche and Cranston were great but were in there for ten minutes.

After that, Elizabeth Olsen was beautiful and fun, but not part of the plot. ATJ is an actor that nobody will remember in ten years.

Having very little Godzilla would be fine if the human story was good.

Are you sure about that? ATJ is a pretty good actor. I'll admit that Godzilla, while certainly not a bad performance, isn't his best but he's not a terrible nor awful actor. And I'd say considering Marvel cast him in AoU, it's obvious he has talent.

In ten years he'll be a certified A-lister. Probably will reach that status before then.

Funny how fan boys convince themselves with their own reasoning with why people did not like this movie or any movie they like that is universally not so liked. I guess whatever helps them sleep at night

You're highly delusional if you seriously still believe this movie is universally disliked. It has a 73% rating on Rotten Tomatoes from critics & fans alike, a 9/10 rating on IGN, & a multitude of good reviews. Obviously I'm not going to be delusional and state that everyone likes the movie, but it is far from being universally disliked.

Again, there's a huge difference between you disliking a movie and it being critically panned. Perhaps now would be the time to learn about said distinction.

 

[Jaspertian1105]

Who are you?



Are you sure about that? ATJ is a pretty good actor. I'll admit that Godzilla, while certainly not a bad performance, isn't his best but he's not a terrible nor awful actor. And I'd say considering Marvel cast him in AoU, it's obvious he has talent.

In ten years he'll be a certified A-lister. Probably will reach that status before then.



You're highly delusional if you seriously still believe this movie is universally disliked. It has a 73% rating on Rotten Tomatoes from critics & fans alike, a 9/10 rating on IGN, & a multitude of good reviews. Obviously I'm not going to be delusional and state that everyone likes the movie, but it is far from being universally disliked.

Again, there's a huge difference between you disliking a movie and it being critically panned. Perhaps now would be the time to learn about said distinction.

Agree, I think overall even the worst critics still find the movie good, even if it lacked in a few points, but to say that is a bad movie that is just not a valid statement. You can be disappointing or feel it lacked in a few things but its a really really well done movie.

On other note Xmen dropped almost the same percentage than Godzilla this friday, (more than 70 per cent, it was a really good movie by the way). I think the competition was hard against it , even if maleficent and west had mixed and bad reviews. It shows that summer is really really getting crowded and if you don't land a great opening weekend, you are pretty screwed

 

[Breaker]

Funny how fan boys convince themselves with their own reasoning with why people did not like this movie or any movie they like that is universally not so liked. I guess whatever helps them sleep at night

Currently, GODZILLA generally has a positive to mixed reception, with several mounts of negative reception. It's quite liked, it may not be to some people's cinematic flavor during the Summer time, but it is fairly liked and received. And to me, I'm quite happy with this and knowing that people still want more Godzilla from this upcoming new franchise.

 

[Rock Sexton]

I agree with almost all of that, except the ATJ part. I think he's a great actor, but his character wasn't very interesting. I think he tried his best, but the writing really failed him.

ATJ was actually pretty good during that exchange in Cranston's house after he bails him out of jail. After that it went downhill pretty quickly.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I liked the film, but yeah, they had a good handle on the relationship and human element with Cranston and ATJ and once they introduced the MUTOs in Japan it goes a bit inert with any further development with ATJ's character (And his performance).

 

[DA_Champion]

If that were actually true, then you wouldn't have so many people constantly complain about movies that are "nothing but action."

Doesn't follow at all.

When people say they want more than action in movies, they don't mean that they want any human story. They mean that they want a good human story. A lacklustre human story is hardly a step up over an absence of a human story.

 

[TheVileOne]

The movie is doing well, but obviously it could've done better. The next movie will have to step its games up in terms of story, characters, and dialogue.

I think they might just have to bring in a completely new cast as well. The Brody's are not compelling characters.

The battle teases will have to go away. You don't have to do a giant 20 minute battle, but when we are waiting so long to see Godzilla, don't cut it off just as something cool is finally going to happen.

 

[Synner]

ATJ brilliantly acted in the film.

 

[GremlinZilla89]

Thing is, I don't see the fans acting like the films is wholly praised and beloved by all. But I do see it's detractors enforcing it's some kind of major disappointment. To me, that's doubly hilarious when they call the fans delusional.

 

[C. Lee]

Saying Sharknado > Godzilla is a ****ing travesty and disaster of a thought.

Also Hulk-1700, you're just wrong lol. Deal with it.

Drop the attitude NOW. I've read your other posts...you are inches away from infraction or worse. Learn to play nice or leave now.

 

[Tanin]

Going to go see Godzilla with my GF and her mother this week.

 

[The Dark Defender]

I think the segment on the train with the lost asian child alone gave Johnson's character more depth than any of the films being referenced in this thread.

Olsen's character had very little substance, but they cast someone good enough to atleast make the emotional trauma that the character was going through somewhat memorable.