Grayskull: Masters of the Universe - Part 2

[Jordacar]

Meh, not sold he can handle this type of material.

But then again a re-write means nothing at this point.

Yeah, how many re-writes does this make?

As I've mentioned before, I'm one of the many fans who's writing his own He-Man script, and the re-write just gives me more time to get mine right and in my wildest dreams they use it. On the other hand, it also means in the highly unlikely event that mine gets picked, it'll probably get re-written a couple dozen times by hack script doctors too, so whatever.

 

[TheVileOne]

Jordacar, I think it's cool you are writing your own script but it's also very rare to sell like a script of branded material like that. Though it has happened with like that Wonder Woman script, though that never got produced either .

You are always better off writing your own stuff first because if that works then you can get to do your dream project .

 

[Jordacar]

You are always better off writing your own stuff first because if that works then you can get to do your dream project .

True, but it's still good practice. Plus, getting to type EXT. CASTLE GRAYSKULL - NIGHT is its own reward.

 

[TheVileOne]

You could always do a spec episode script of the animated series .

Be a way to start small and just write like 22 pages.

 

[Pink Ranger]

WTF? that isn't RamMan. From the mini-comics to the cartoon, he is a HUMAN BATTERING RAM.

Lol, I was watching this movie the other day, and thinking of Ram Man in this scene:

 

[Airwings]

Lol, I was watching this movie the other day, and thinking of Ram Man in this scene

WTF???? Shouldn't Ram Man do any of his Filmation stunts, the stuff he's KNOWN for?
If he was portrayed similar to the warrior in that clip, Ram would be so powerful there won't be a need for He-Man.

Now I'm gonna qute myself again, and I demand comments to my post this time. I hate it when I get overlooked just because I happen to be the last post on a page:

WTF? that isn't RamMan. From the mini-comics to the cartoon, he is a HUMAN BATTERING RAM.

Let's say he can fight in whatever way the writers want, he still got to use his spring legs and head to tear down a wall by jumping, at least ONCE during the film. That's what Ram Man is known for, and we can't be without it.

For me, Stratos is almost a must for the first film, not because he's an original 8 character (Zodac I can do without), but his status helps establish that Eternia is made up of a diverse number of kingdoms, many of whom are allied in order to combat evil.

Stratos' presence alone is an easy way of giving that part of the background without having to go into a long Game Of Thrones-style dialogue.

That's the reason I want Ram Man there too. The good side can't just rely on Duncan, Teela and the royal guards to back up He-Man. That would be way too poor. Imagine how "cheated on a good show" the audience would feel then. Ouch!
There are Masters around the planet who aren't tied to the royal palace. And Ram Man is perhaps the most recognizable one to general audience.

Back to Stratos. Could an aussie actor play him? The ones I know about are too famous for a supporting character, I guess. The same goes for the ones from New Zealand. Karl Urban is making a name for himself these days.
Unless there will be more focus than usual on the people of Avion, we can't expect a movie star in the role.

 

[Pink Ranger]

WTF???? Shouldn't Ram Man do any of his Filmation stunts, the stuff he's KNOWN for?
If he was portrayed similar to the warrior in that clip, Ram would be so powerful there won't be a need for He-Man.

I was just using that as a fun example, but if Thor and Hulk can be on the same team fighting the same battle, so can He-Man and a warrior-style Ram Man.

 

[rogue trooper]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=95845

Richard Wenk is writing the screenplay. 16 Blocks, The Mechanic, and co-wrote Expendables 2 if you want his resume.

Well, he wouldn't have been someone I'd thought of, since his credits don't include anything in the genre of sci-fi and fantasy. Still, The Mechanic, and Expendables 2 were very solid action flicks, and the structure of the chemistry of the characters that Wenk did in Expendables 2 is something that could be adequate for the chemistry among the characters in Masters of The Universe.

 

[TheVileOne]

Meh, the Mechanic was mediocre.

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

i still think this is gonna fall flat, hell look at the current dc comic. everyone has to redesign the character because "there looks dont work"

what a load of crap. i dread to see how they will look on screen

 

[rogue trooper]

i still think this is gonna fall flat, hell look at the current dc comic. everyone has to redesign the character because "there looks dont work"

what a load of crap. i dread to see how they will look on screen

Many characters get redesigned, not just He-Man. Batman(for film mostly), Thundercats, The Avengers, The X-Men, Flash Gordon, Hawkman, I can go on and on.... I just don't see the recent redesigns that He-Man got on the DC Comic and the 2002 cartoons as a negative thing. At the end of the day, you look at it and it still looks like He-Man, as much as the current chain-mail look of Thor still makes him look not that drastically different from his original Jack Kirby-look.

 

[Airwings]

Further suggestions for characters in the films includes Mekaneck. Yes, Mekaneck, I actually want him in the adaption. Like with Stratos and Ram Man, his appearance will show the audience that Ethernia consists of more than just the royal palace.

Also, what kind of cool things can Mekaneck do? He's more of a spy than a warrior, right? I don't see how it can benefit anything if we leave him for another film. As I see it, the sequel will have cool stuff like Sy-Klone, Buzz-Off, Fisto and Roboto. What's Mekaneck compared to them? Nothing!

Mekaneck doesn't have to be in focus, so don't worry for taking up any valuable screen time with background story, character development and yada yada, you know the stuff you always bring up when claiming the Masters of the Universe film should have as few characters as possible. With him being only a minor character, doing some spying, then teaming up with the heroes in the battlefield towards the end when they really need help and showing off some interesting fighting skills.
He could be killed off or he could choose to stay away from all wars from then on. Doesn't matter, as long as we have seen Mekaneck for about 10-15 minutes of the film.

Now, how about casting aussies in different roles as I wrote about another time?

 

[Pink Ranger]

meeeh, I don't really like Meckaneck. And in any event, he's pretty much a member of the Royal household anyway, it's not like he's a member of a different race or a freewheeling mercenary (of which he'd last about 2 days before getting killed) so I don't see the immediate value of having him there.

 

[kickass]

I'm sorry if this has already been posted, but the director of G.I.JOE 2 has some great things to say about the new He-Man movie he's doing. I'm so excited!

http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/dir...asters-of-the-universe-and-gi-joe-retaliation


What prompted Chu to tackle MOTU:
"I was approached about doing a Masters of the Universe movie and while at first I was skeptical, I read the script and I was blown away. I had no idea what to expect but it was such a fresh, UNEXPECTED approach I was immediately intrigued. I never expected to connect on a human level to a MOTU movie but I really plugged in emotionally. That alone, got me excited to see what we could do with the property.

MOTU is such a challenging puzzle to make into a movie that works to a contemporary audience but the script seemed to really crack it for me. I think people are really going to be surprised at the rich story we have the opportunity to tell in this world. Where you think MOTU goes left, the script goes right and it was just very clear to me this was something very special.

It was never a conscious decision to do another “toy” movie but when I read this I couldn’t put it down. And I definitely couldn’t let anyone else make it but myself It was just too much fun.

 

[kickass]

On whether he was a fan of the toys:

"I LOVED the toys growing up. I had Grayskull, I had BattleCat/Cringer, I had Stratos and Orko and obviously He-Man and Skeletor. I also watched the cartoon a lot growing up. This is my era, so going to Mattel to visit their headquarters was like walking into a childhood fantasy. They had a lifesized He-Man in the lobby as well as a glass case with EVERY SINGLE MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE action figure on display. It brought me back to my youth and I knew I had to be a part of getting this movie together. For every MOTU fan out there, it felt like it was time and I wanted to make sure to protect it in the process."

On exploration of the MOTU mythos and comparisons to the '80's movie with Dolph Lundgren:

"I feel like there’s a lot of room to crack open the Masters of the Universe story. We are still in our process and I think we have some great seeds planted but making one of these types of movies RIGHT takes a lot of TONAL tightroping so we’re just going to play for the next several months. Play with designs, play with the characters, try new things, maybe go too far on some things and pull back. The process is really important to find where the right line is so we can land right on it. I think that’s what can dig out the properties full potential for a cinematic rebirth.

I don’t really think about the 80s movie when looking at this movie because the script here is so strong and so unique. I think the characters are so grounded and layered I never expected that in a Masters movie so to me it’s on a totally different level. Don’t get me wrong, I love the 80s movie for full nostalgic reasons but this script feels like it’s a totally different genre than that one."

 

[Airwings]

It seems like Chu have more respect for the characters than I thought. Except for his love for the old film, he might take this seriously enough to make it a decent film. I guess.
I happen to like that they're "playing with designs" and "trying new things". Chu even understands the importance of not changing too much. Seems great to me.

I wonder who will play Stratos and Mekaneck. Give me suggestions, please!

 

[TheVileOne]

It means nothing to me. What does Chu really know about tone and characters and emotions and such? Don't trust him.

Anyway, the movie constantly stalls but here is something more concrete. Mattel is trying to create a new Castle Grayskull playset. You can pre-order it now, but Mattel will only produce it once their pre-order quota is met. Here's a size comparison of what the new playset will look like compared to the old one:

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Here is where you pre-order it:

http://www.mattycollector.com/store/matty/en_US/pd/productID.258165100

 

[gkokujin]

WTF???? Shouldn't Ram Man do any of his Filmation stunts, the stuff he's KNOWN for?
If he was portrayed similar to the warrior in that clip, Ram would be so powerful there won't be a need for He-Man.

Let's say he can fight in whatever way the writers want, he still got to use his spring legs and head to tear down a wall by jumping, at least ONCE during the film. That's what Ram Man is known for, and we can't be without it.

GEEZUS CHRIST ...NO!

Thats NOT what he's known for, you are basing everything on opinion and the cartoon. NO NO NO.



have you even read Ram Man's first appearance in the MiniComics? Have you ever READ a minicomic???

 

[gkokujin]

No Mekaneck.

Man E Faces, Sy-klone, Faker, TwoBad

 

[Thundarr]

It seems like Chu have more respect for the characters than I thought. Except for his love for the old film, he might take this seriously enough to make it a decent film. I guess.
I happen to like that they're "playing with designs" and "trying new things". Chu even understands the importance of not changing too much. Seems great to me.

I wonder who will play Stratos and Mekaneck. Give me suggestions, please!

If he wasn't so damn old, I would suggest Sean Connery for Stratos. Anyone ever notice in the 2002 reboot, the voice over actor who did Stratos's voice seemed to be doing a Sean Connery impression?

 

[Thundarr]

GEEZUS CHRIST ...NO!

Thats NOT what he's known for, you are basing everything on opinion and the cartoon. NO NO NO.



have you even read Ram Man's first appearance in the MiniComics? Have you ever READ a minicomic???

Yeah, I gotta agree with you on this one bud. As for who should play Ram Man and how he should be depicted, I still say Michael Chiklis would be great in the role. He's pretty well known, but is willing to play second banana to other actors if the role calls for it (like in the Fantastic 4 movies). But if the producers or whoever feel he's too big of a star for a secondary role, how about the guy who played Juggernaut in X3? The way the character was portrayed in that movie was pretty much identical to Ram Man in the 2002 cartoon, only for the wrong side.

And I much prefer the 2002 version of Ram Man, as well as pretty much all of the characters, to the 1980's version.

 

[Airwings]

GEEZUS CHRIST ...NO!

Thats NOT what he's known for, you are basing everything on opinion and the cartoon. NO NO NO.



have you even read Ram Man's first appearance in the MiniComics? Have you ever READ a minicomic???

You seem very persistent in this matter. But I read the MOTU comic books for a couple of years during the 80s, and Ram Man actually does jump there too. It's not only something used in the Filmation version.
And by the way, for the general audience the Filmation show is the most known anyway. Mention He-Man to random guy in the street, and I'm sure it's Filmation and not the comic books who first pops up in his head. Unless he's a true MOTU fan who knows all there is to know about everyone/everything connected to Eternia and Etheria.

Yeah, I gotta agree with you on this one bud.

What are you agreeing with? That Ram Man is not known for using his legs to jump head-first into things? Excuse me, but this is actually really amusing. I don't know what strange, obscure version of Ram Man you have stumbled upon, and hold as the true Ram Man.
Well, I have to inform you that you actually agree on a lie. This isn't about what version of Ram man that you would prefer to see, it's about the most known version. The Ram Man who got stuck in our head and still remains there. When people think back on their childhood and Ram Man, it's the spring legged, jumping character and nothing else.
Sorry for destroying everything you believed to be true

 

[Airwings]

If he wasn't so damn old, I would suggest Sean Connery for Stratos. Anyone ever notice in the 2002 reboot, the voice over actor who did Stratos's voice seemed to be doing a Sean Connery impression?

Sean Connery of 1971 would have been perfect. Old enough to be believable as a strong leader and a king, young enough to go physical in the middle of the action.

As for who should play Ram Man and how he should be depicted, I still say Michael Chiklis would be great in the role. He's pretty well known, but is willing to play second banana to other actors if the role calls for it (like in the Fantastic 4 movies). But if the producers or whoever feel he's too big of a star for a secondary role, how about the guy who played Juggernaut in X3?

Nobody would be better than Michael Chiklis. He's born to play Ram Man.
I just hope that the focus will be on Ram's bad ass personality, and not any attempt to have him as comic relief.

But would any producer in the world think Chiklis is too known for a supporting character? I don't think so. Do you?

The Juggernaut actor is Vinnie Jones. I guess he and Chiklis are equally known as actors (outside America, anyways).

 

[Pink Ranger]

If he wasn't so damn old, I would suggest Sean Connery for Stratos. Anyone ever notice in the 2002 reboot, the voice over actor who did Stratos's voice seemed to be doing a Sean Connery impression?

I loved all the sly celebrity references in the 2002 cartoon. Sean Connery as Stratos, Johnny Cash as Moss Man.

 

[gkokujin]

You seem very persistent in this matter. But I read the MOTU comic books for a couple of years during the 80s, and Ram Man actually does jump there too. It's not only something used in the Filmation version.
And by the way, for the general audience the Filmation show is the most known anyway. Mention He-man to random guy in the street, and I'm sure it's Filmation and not the comic books who first pops up in his head. Unless he's a true MOTU fan who knows all there is to know about everyone/everything connected to Eternia and Etheria.

What are you agreeing with? That Ram Man is not known for using his legs to jump head-first into things? Excuse me, but this is actually really amusing. I don't know what strange, obscure version of Ram Man you have stumbled upon, and hold as the true Ram Man.
Well, I have to inform you that you actually agree on a lie. This isn't about what version of Ram man that you would prefer to see, it's about the most known version. The Ram Man who got stuck in our head and still remains there. When people think back on their childhood and Ram Man, it's the spring legged, jumping character and nothing else.
Sorry for destroying everything you believed to be true

you went on this tirade because you mixed up your self with your own post.

Ram Man RAMS things. Neither me or Thundarr said we didn't want Ram Man to jump.

we are agreeing on the SPRING legs which is the part that i BOLDED in my reply to you which you apparently ignored.