Grayskull: Masters of the Universe - Part 2

[Eddie Dean]

I'd prefer He-Man not be a mushmouth.

 

[Donut]

Charlie Hunnam can play He-Man

Go with an unknown if you ask me

 

[Jordacar]

I can't figure out why so many fans don't want Prince Adam in the movie. What is so interesting about He-Man as a character that Adam brings him down?

 

[Pink Ranger]

I can't figure out why so many fans don't want Prince Adam in the movie. What is so interesting about He-Man as a character that Adam brings him down?

I like the character of Prince Adam, but I think the anti-Adam mentality comes from those of us who had the action figures from Day 1, then eagerly ran home from school on the very first day of the cartoon, plopped down in front of the TV with our Series 1 toys and expected to see an animated version of the sci-fi barbarian story we got from the mini-comics.

Instead, we the first thing we saw is a guy in a pink shirt we never heard of before, a couple of key flimsy fairy-tale characters that didn't exist in the toyline or the minicomics (Sorceress and Orko) and a show with almost no fighting.

As an adult, I can look back at the Filmation show and appreciate it for what it is, but for some that incredible disappointment carries over into any reference to that program.

 

[TheVileOne]

I can't figure out why so many fans don't want Prince Adam in the movie. What is so interesting about He-Man as a character that Adam brings him down?

It's hard to visualize how a film will realistically pull off the transformation and make it look feasible onscreen, even with all the advancements in digital effects.

Also, Hollywood screenwriters don't like the transformation and don't understand or know how to write it. They can't figure out how to pull it off in live action so they just try to ditch it entirely.

 

[TheVileOne]

At this point, I say let the man do it. He apparently knows the canon like many of us do, so it may at least be accurate.

A lot of filmmakers know canon and still strike out with certain material.

 

[Thundarr]

I like the character of Prince Adam, but I think the anti-Adam mentality comes from those of us who had the action figures from Day 1, then eagerly ran home from school on the very first day of the cartoon, plopped down in front of the TV with our Series 1 toys and expected to see an animated version of the sci-fi barbarian story we got from the mini-comics.

Instead, we the first thing we saw is a guy in a pink shirt we never heard of before, a couple of key flimsy fairy-tale characters that didn't exist in the toyline or the minicomics (Sorceress and Orko) and a show with almost no fighting.

As an adult, I can look back at the Filmation show and appreciate it for what it is, but for some that incredible disappointment carries over into any reference to that program.

Nicely said. Personally, I don't think I ever had a problem with the concept of a Prince Adam character as part of the story. I just didn't like how no one seemed to be able to tell that Adam and He-Man were the same person when they looked IDENTICAL. That's why I much prefer the 2002 reboot. At least in that story the transformation, and no one recognizing Adam s He-Man, actually makes sense.

 

[Thundarr]

It's hard to visualize how a film will realistically pull off the transformation and make it look feasible onscreen, even with all the advancements in digital effects.

Also, Hollywood screenwriters don't like the transformation and don't understand or know how to write it. They can't figure out how to pull it off in live action so they just try to ditch it entirely.

Similar transformations were done quite successfully back in the 1970's with TV's The Incredible Hulk. And more recently with The Hulk in Marvel's Avengers. So I don't buy the "they can't figure out how to pull it off" excuse for a second. Truth be told, they're just too damn lazy to write it in.

 

[Mikelus]

Similar transformations were done quite successfully back in the 1970's with TV's The Incredible Hulk. And more recently with The Hulk in Marvel's Avengers. So I don't buy the "they can't figure out how to pull it off" excuse for a second. Truth be told, they're just too damn lazy to write it in.

Is not the same, with Adam is more complicated, if you go with the 2002 cartoon, he was a teenager that transformed into He-Man, so you will have to cast two actors that look alike enough. The original cartoon version is just too dumb. I will understand if they decide to simplify and just have one actor, with Adam's transformation being the way he gets He-Man's power.

 

[Human Torch]

The original mini comic concept was very thin to say the least. The only idea of any real substance was that both He Man & Skelator had haves of a Power Sword that could unlock Castle Grayskull.

Apart from that none of the characters were given any real depth. I suppose Skelator was played a bit darker in comparison with his prissy Flimation counterpart,but not significantly different.

I think they are waiting for Shazam to get off the ground to see if a kid transforming into a muscular adult concept works for most people. I think the 03 version works best,where there is an obvious transformation.

 

[terry78]

I say just do what they did with Captain America and use CG to make a somewhat scrawnier version of the actor. He'll probably be He-Man more often than not.

 

[Dark Raven]

If they could find two brothers of different ages who look somewhat alike, that would probably be the best solution. Of course, then people would still say that He-Man looks like Adam's older brother that he doesn't have and will ask "are you sure you two aren't related?"

I preferred the mini comics myself, and it is what I was familiar with before the Filmation cartoon, which I thought to be rather juvenile. If they have Prince Adam, I prefer it not to be so much a physical transformation into He-Man but more of an emotional journey that he goes on where he steps up to the mantle and becomes the hero and warrior known as He-Man. It can be a public identity, just like most of the MCU heroes have, so that other characters don't look like idiots for not realising.

I don't see what advantage it actually serves in having a secret identity in this case. It's not like if Skeletor or Hordak's forces knew that Adam was He-Man they would attack his family and friends, because they do that anyway all the time. And if Skeletor were Keldor, then he has his own personal grudge against Randor, so it's not like he's targeting him because he's Adam's father as a way to get to He-Man.

 

[DawnWarrior]

After giving it a lot of thought, I would cast two different guys for Adam and He-Man, but the actor playing Adam would dub over He-Man's voice (pitched down of course) so they still feel like the same guy that way.

At this point I'm kind of amazed we haven't gotten even a terrible He-Man movie by now. The interest is clearly there to make this thing happen. Whether Prince Adam is included, I suppose it's just a matter of finding a screenwriter that can work the dual identity concept well enough.

 

[Dark Raven]

After giving it a lot of thought, I would cast two different guys for Adam and He-Man, but the actor playing Adam would dub over He-Man's voice (pitched down of course) so they still feel like the same guy that way.

At this point I'm kind of amazed we haven't gotten even a terrible He-Man movie by now. The interest is clearly there to make this thing happen. Whether Prince Adam is included, I suppose it's just a matter of finding a screenwriter that can work the dual identity concept well enough.

What do you call that Dolph Lundgren movie then?

 

[TheVileOne]

I don't think it's that hard. Same actor. Just dress him down and make him look Clark Kent-ish and feeble as Adam. Just make him look weaker and wimpier. And then when he's He-Man it's like Clark Kent going to Superman.

It's also about performance. Actor has be able to competently play two different versions. Has to be a clear physicality and difference between playing as Adam and He-Man.

You would think with simple camera angles and trickery, you can make a guy look somewhat smaller and feebler and then amplify when he's like dressed down and going all He-Man like.

He doesn't have to be a bodybuilder, just in really excellent shape, jacked up.

 

[Dark Raven]

Chris Hemsworth shape would be fine. He doesn't have to be like Dolph.

 

[TheVileOne]

That's what I'm saying.

Just make him wear lots of layers and just make it so he doesn't appear as big. Not that hard to do.

 

[Pink Ranger]

I still think a young Adam and adult He-Man is the way to go. This isn't like Superman; Adam actually physically transforms by holding up a conductive piece of metal and being hit with a magical bolt of lightning. If audiences can't accept that, then Shazam is in trouble.

 

[Mikelus]

After giving it a lot of thought, I would cast two different guys for Adam and He-Man, but the actor playing Adam would dub over He-Man's voice (pitched down of course) so they still feel like the same guy that way.

At this point I'm kind of amazed we haven't gotten even a terrible He-Man movie by now. The interest is clearly there to make this thing happen. Whether Prince Adam is included, I suppose it's just a matter of finding a screenwriter that can work the dual identity concept well enough.

Wait, this movie didn't happen? => http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masters_of_the_Universe_(film)



I think it would be better to cast one actor, no secret identity, everyone knows Adam is He-Man in the current comics by DC.

 

[Human Torch]

The whole problem with using the same actor is that Adam doesn't really have any visual cue to hang has persona on. Like Supes has the glasses as Clark, for example. The only thing He Man had to differentiate him was a spray tan. In this day and age where people don't even want to except the glasses/domino mask as a suitable disguise,I doubt a spray tan will do the trick.

I still think a young Adam and adult He-Man is the way to go. This isn't like Superman; Adam actually physically transforms by holding up a conductive piece of metal and being hit with a magical bolt of lightning. If audiences can't accept that, then Shazam is in trouble.

Exactly

 

[Dark Raven]

Wait, this movie didn't happen? => http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masters_of_the_Universe_(film)



I think it would be better to cast one actor, no secret identity, everyone knows Adam is He-Man in the current comics by DC.

This is what I'd go for. It seems the most sensible if people really want to retain the Adam persona.

 

[DawnWarrior]

Wait, this movie didn't happen? => http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masters_of_the_Universe_(film)

Duh, yeah. Should have included "besides THAT ONE."

 

[Mikelus]

Speaking of the He-Man comics, he's King Adam now (from The Eternity War #2):

Imagine this in a movie, totally epic badassery!

 

[Pink Ranger]

The only thing He Man had to differentiate him was a spray tan. In this day and age where people don't even want to except the glasses/domino mask as a suitable disguise,I doubt a spray tan will do the trick.

TEELA: Thank the elders, He-man is he ... Adam, what's the hell's wrong with you?

ADAM: What do you mean, 'Adam'? I'm He-Man.

TEELA: No, you're Adam. Except you're naked and orange for some reason.

ADAM: Um, it's clobberin' time?

 

[Thundarr]

I say just do what they did with Captain America and use CG to make a somewhat scrawnier version of the actor. He'll probably be He-Man more often than not.

That's another example I was going to mention, but I forgot.

They can either CG a scrawnier version of the actor for Prince Adam (like Captain America), or a bigger more muscular version of the actor for He-Man (like The Incredible Hulk). Or use two very different actors for each role, and maybe use some CG enhancements to make them look more alike.