Grayskull: Masters of the Universe - Part 2

[Quasimod0]

Good. Hopefully they can find someone better.

 

[Airwings]

Yes, they have to find better people working on a film like this one.
The director should be someone on the same level as Peter Jackson/Ridley Scott/James Cameron/Steven Spielberg. The problem though, is that there are no others like them, no other director with the same grand scale, unless we move some inches lower. Then we get Chris Nolan, Robert Zemeckis, Ron Howard, Joss Whedon and JJ Abrams.
Nolan is a no-no for this. I don't think he can do a combination of epic sci fi and epic fantasy justice when it's in the very same film. But I will see Interstellar tonight and hope it will change my mind
Abrams??!! Gosh, the man should not have Star trek, AND Star wars, AND Masters of the universe on his cv. It will be way too much!

Here are actors suggestions:

King Randor: Sean Bean or Stellan Skarsgård or Hugo Weaving or Karl Urban
Man-At-Arms: Viggo Mortensen or Tom Selleck or David Wenham or Donnie Wahlberg
Prince Adam: Dakota Goyo
He-Man: ????
Orko: voiced by Jonathan Taylor Thomas
Skeletor: Peter Stormare or Ray Liotta
King Grayskull: Dolph Lundgren (cameo)
Sorceress: Courtney Cox or Jennifer Connelly
Ram Man: Michael Chiklis
Mekaneck: Lukas Haas
Stratos: Gerard Butler

 

[guitarsingerguy]

I just don't think you're ever gonna see that kind of reverence taken towards this particular property. It's viewed as cheesy even when compared to say Transformers.

 

[Airwings]

I just don't think you're ever gonna see that kind of reverence taken towards this particular property. It's viewed as cheesy even when compared to say Transformers.

Then it's time to change peoples' thoughts about MOTU.
It's actually Avatar, Star Wars, Conan and LOTR thrown into the same adventure.

 

[TheVileOne]

I wouldn't hold my breath. Project has been around the block so many times. They can't settle on a script for Sony to greenlight.

A big expensive director will not want to do a movie like this. It's also been through so many different writers and directors already.

 

[Airwings]

I wouldn't hold my breath. Project has been around the block so many times. They can't settle on a script for Sony to greenlight.

A big expensive director will not want to do a movie like this. It's also been through so many different writers and directors already.

Perhaps it will be best to return it to one of the first directors that were onboard: John Woo

 

[TheVileOne]

Yeah man, you think John Woo is going to return to Hollywood for this film? Nope.

 

[Airwings]

Yeah man, you think John Woo is going to return to Hollywood for this film? Nope.

I didn't say he will. But it would be a good thing for the project. Do you agree?

 

[Wheels]

As a concept He-Man is more interesting to me. I'll take a swashbuckling sword and sorcery type film than a giant robot film that focuses on vanilla human characters . Honestly though I used to come down on Bay for his Transformers films, but I recently went back and watched the animated versions, and they don't hold up in my opinion. So right now I kind of feel like the franchise as a whole isn't that great.

 

[Thundarr]

Yes, they have to find better people working on a film like this one.
The director should be someone on the same level as Peter Jackson/Ridley Scott/James Cameron/Steven Spielberg. The problem though, is that there are no others like them, no other director with the same grand scale, unless we move some inches lower. Then we get Chris Nolan, Robert Zemeckis, Ron Howard, Joss Whedon and JJ Abrams.
Nolan is a no-no for this. I don't think he can do a combination of epic sci fi and epic fantasy justice when it's in the very same film. But I will see Interstellar tonight and hope it will change my mind
Abrams??!! Gosh, the man should not have Star trek, AND Star wars, AND Masters of the universe on his cv. It will be way too much!

Here are actors suggestions:

King Randor: Sean Bean or Stellan Skarsgård or Hugo Weaving or Karl Urban
Man-At-Arms: Viggo Mortensen or Tom Selleck or David Wenham or Donnie Wahlberg
Prince Adam: Dakota Goyo
He-Man: ????
Orko: voiced by Jonathan Taylor Thomas
Skeletor: Peter Stormare or Ray Liotta
King Grayskull: Dolph Lundgren (cameo)
Sorceress: Courtney Cox or Jennifer Connelly
Ram Man: Michael Chiklis
Mekaneck: Lukas Haas
Stratos: Gerard Butler

From the directors you listed, my vote goes to Joss Whedon. Not only s director, but as writer too. The whole concept of He-Man is so silly, that the script has to be done tongue in cheek. There are few better at blending heart pounding action, gritty drama, and side splitting comedy than Joss Whedon. Just look at his work on Buffy, Angel, Firefly, and The Avengers. He would be the perfect fit for a He-Man movie.

 

[Thundarr]

As a concept He-Man is more interesting to me. I'll take a swashbuckling sword and sorcery type film than a giant robot film that focuses on vanilla human characters . Honestly though I used to come down on Bay for his Transformers films, but I recently went back and watched the animated versions, and they don't hold up in my opinion. So right now I kind of feel like the franchise as a whole isn't that great.

Do you mean the Transformers franchise, or the He-Man franchise? And if you do mean the He-Man franchise, do you mean he original Filmation version or the 2002 reboot? Because that reboot was all kinds of awesome!

 

[Wheels]

Do you mean the Transformers franchise, or the He-Man franchise? And if you do mean the He-Man franchise, do you mean he original Filmation version or the 2002 reboot? Because that reboot was all kinds of awesome!

The Transformesr franchise. 2002 He-Man is better than any version of Transformers.

 

[Lord]

Then it's time to change peoples' thoughts about MOTU.
It's actually Avatar, Star Wars, Conan and LOTR thrown into the same adventure.

To be frank, He-Man isn't realy worth it, even back then it was kinda bad when compared to other 80s cartoons that were being released around the rest of the world (i would argue that they're more worth adapting to live-action than he-man).

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[Jordacar]

To be frank, He-Man isn't realy worth it, even back then it was kinda bad when compared to other 80s cartoons that were being released around the rest of the world (i would argue that they're more worth adapting to live-action than he-man).

I can definitely understand that. He-Man didn't break the mold, it was the mold. No death or serious danger, perpetual status quo, minimal continuity, lesson-centric stories, etc. They couldn't make the movie that sanitized if they tried.

I get the sense that making this movie would have to be more about the challenge of making the mess work than the prospect of a bankable franchise.

 

[Airwings]

Why the negative view of Masters of the universe? Of course it can be taken seriously if they approach it the right way. Neither heroes or villains/henchmen should be dim witted buffons.
Trap-Jaw is a cyborg/death machine, Skeletor a dangerous dark lord, Stratos a mighty flying king, Ram Man a force that almost no walls can hold back etc etc
When these titans clash, the ground should be shaking and the air vibrating.

 

[Thundarr]

I can definitely understand that. He-Man didn't break the mold, it was the mold. No death or serious danger, perpetual status quo, minimal continuity, lesson-centric stories, etc. They couldn't make the movie that sanitized if they tried.

I get the sense that making this movie would have to be more about the challenge of making the mess work than the prospect of a bankable franchise.

While the original cartoon was incredibly silly and any movie that strives to imitate that silliness would be doomed to failure, that doesn't mean the movie HAS to follow that SAME formula. Look at the original minicomics that came with the action figures. Before they started emulating the TV series, they were actually pretty dark and gritty. And the 2002 reboot has many of the elements that you had just complained were missing from the original series. The main characters were in serious danger quite often. Side characters were killed (especially in the episodes about the Snake Men). The whole series had a most definite continuity. And while the episodes were lesson-centric, they weren't quite as obnoxious about it as the original series was. And even so, there's no rule that says the movie version HAS to have a lesson as well. So I think a live action He-Man movie CAN work, and SHOULD happen. We just need a writer, director, and producer who is up to the challenge of making it a good one. My vote goes to Joss Whedon. If he can't make a good He-Man movie, no one can.

 

[Lord]

It's not that it can't be done, i just think there are properties that deserve the effort of adapting more than He-Man, even some from the 80s as the ones i put in my previous post. I just don't think the franchise has enough unique elements to properly stand on its oun and warrant an adaptation.

 

[Human Torch]

He-Man has a wealth of potential.They just need the right approach and to not have this overwhelming fear of commitment that seems to be attached to the property.

I swear.It's worse than WB's fear to commit to more than Superman/Batman films.

 

[Pink Ranger]

As someone who has basically bankrupted himself on mattycollector action figures, even I have to admit MOTU would be a hard sell to a producer. I wouldn't even know where to begin: "It's like John Carter ... I mean, Conan ... I mean, Dune ... I mean, Dungeons and Dra ... damnit!".

 

[Paradox1]

I've always liked He-Man universe I'd love to see someone with a vision of what the universe could be get a hold of it.

 

[Thundarr]

It's not that it can't be done, i just think there are properties that deserve the effort of adapting more than He-Man, even some from the 80's as the ones I put in my previous post. I just don't think the franchise has enough unique elements to properly stand on its own and warrant an adaptation.

And yet obscure Anime series that only hardcore, die hard Anime fans would have ever heard of would be a better sell? I'm not trying to dis Anime. The artwork is often beautiful and I know that it has a large fan base. But while Anime fans might know the shows you mentioned in your earlier post, the general public will most likely be clueless, and the producers will have to come up with a kick ass trailer/ad campaign to get the butts of the general audience into the seats.

He-Man on the other hand? Who HASN'T heard of He-Man? Even people who have never seen the show or collected the toys have heard of him. The story will certainly need to be tweaked so as to not be as silly as the Filmation cartoon, yet stay as close to canon as possible so as to not alienate the core fan base. That is why I suggest basing it on the 2002 version. He-Man is every bit as marketable as GI Joe and Transformers, and look at how well those did at the box office (financially if not critically). And let's face it. THAT is the bottom line in Hollywood now a days. Whether or not people will come out and pay to see a movie in theatres. He-Man almost guarantees that they will. The shows you mentioned? Not so much.

 

[Airwings]

I wonder if there are some characters that can be played by Eric Bana, Guy Pearce, Christoph Waltz, Jude Law, Clive Owen, Tobey Maguire, Jonathan Rhys-Meyers,
Christian Slater, Matt Dillon, Rob Lowe, Val Kilmer etc etc
Some of them will be pretty cheap to hire, and they're all known faces.

 

[Lord]

And yet obscure Anime series that only hardcore, die hard Anime fans would have ever heard of would be a better sell? I'm not trying to dis Anime. The artwork is often beautiful and I know that it has a large fan base. But while Anime fans might know the shows you mentioned in your earlier post, the general public will most likely be clueless, and the producers will have to come up with a kick ass trailer/ad campaign to get the butts of the general audience into the seats.

He-Man on the other hand? Who HASN'T heard of He-Man? Even people who have never seen the show or collected the toys have heard of him. The story will certainly need to be tweaked so as to not be as silly as the Filmation cartoon, yet stay as close to canon as possible so as to not alienate the core fan base. That is why I suggest basing it on the 2002 version. He-Man is every bit as marketable as GI Joe and Transformers, and look at how well those did at the box office (financially if not critically). And let's face it. THAT is the bottom line in Hollywood now a days. Whether or not people will come out and pay to see a movie in theatres. He-Man almost guarantees that they will. The shows you mentioned? Not so much.

Gundam and Saint Seiya are actualy very well known, SS is like soccer, realy big worldwide, but for some reason it never got very popular in the USA. Then there are some manga/ anime properties that simply put are giants, like Dragon Ball, One Piece and Naruto, One Piece has sold around 340 million copies of the manga, and that's not including the people who only watch the anime. Regarding lesser known ones, Guardians of the Galaxy wasn't known at all 2 years ago either, and G.I.Joe may have made some money, but in Europe i don't think the toys ever sold much, instead they kinda revamped it as "Actionn Man".

He-Man is known worldwide, bust seems to mostly be considered a joke, similar to Aquaman, but unlike Aquaman, i don't think the concepts or characters are good enough to justify the trouble of this kind of project.

 

[Human Torch]

There really is so much to work with in a MOTU film.It actually is so packed,it'd work better as a TV series.

A young lad is given the power to be the most powerful man in the universe.
He has the whole "secret identity" thing, that keeps him from being respected by his father/the woman he loves.

Teela is the ultimate female warrior bad***.(That alone should garner fans)
She's kept in the dark by her adopted father as to her true parentage.
Her father is a war weary soldier that must also keep the secret of He-Man from her.
Her mother is the guardian of the universe's most powerful magic.A role she will one day have to take.

Skeletor.C'mon,man.Skeletor.
If they portray him half as good as Langella did,you've got gold.
His underlings are cunning and have any number of individual agendas.

You also have a canvas of many exotic races to choose from.(For a bit of 'Flash Gordon' style "Uniting of the races against a common enemy")

I mean,in the hands of a decent writer,that's your $billion franchise to take the place of the LOTR films.I can't believe it's really taking so long to get off the ground in this day and age.

 

[Jordacar]

While the original cartoon was incredibly silly and any movie that strives to imitate that silliness would be doomed to failure, that doesn't mean the movie HAS to follow that SAME formula. Look at the original minicomics that came with the action figures. Before they started emulating the TV series, they were actually pretty dark and gritty. And the 2002 reboot has many of the elements that you had just complained were missing from the original series. The main characters were in serious danger quite often. Side characters were killed (especially in the episodes about the Snake Men). The whole series had a most definite continuity. And while the episodes were lesson-centric, they weren't quite as obnoxious about it as the original series was. And even so, there's no rule that says the movie version HAS to have a lesson as well. So I think a live action He-Man movie CAN work, and SHOULD happen.

That's a big reason why I want to see the movie get made, because there's so much potential and promise that no single version of the property has managed to capture while making its mark on the popular consciousness.

I mean, look at "Avatar: The Last Airbender" for instance. That 'toon pretty much nailed it on the first pass, so much so that any film adaptation would have a rough time trying to improve on the source material (even one not produced and directed by complete morons ). You want the best version, watch the show. Done. MOTU, on the other hand...

I want to see Eternia with big studio money behind it and some half-crazed filmmakers ready to "Game of Thrones" the sh** out of it. I wanna see King Grayskull kicking ass, I wanna see Skeletor actually being scary, I wanna see He-Man cleaving monsters and bad guys in half, I wanna see Evil Lyn being sultry and vampy, etc. There's so much there just waiting for the chance to fill up those seats.