Grayskull: Masters of the Universe - Part 2

[Thundarr]

...that, and Thor:TDW, while not as "standout" as its predecessor or The Avengers films, it's still a solid film(much like The Incredible Hulk) and it does show shades of how a MOTU-film could be effectively handled on celluloid. Again, Yost's body of work is the one that truly does inspire the most enthusiasm from the previous writers.

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[KRYPTON INC.]

If Yost takes aspects from the 2000's series and mixes that with as much as can be gleaned from the mini-comics... Could be really special.

 

[thorstone]

umm no one said about dropping the blue skin or making keldor non gar.

thats the whole point with the rite to the throne. keldor is half human(king miro) half gar(his mother) and the gar are seeing as a lesser race so thats why he was denied the rite to be king. hence the betrayal of randor, the studying under hordak etc etc

The 2000s cartoon is weak and making him Scar from Lion King is lazy.

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

The 2000s cartoon is weak and making him Scar from Lion King is lazy.

Umm no just no. You ever hear of the search for Keldor, it's the mini comic from the 80s where that whole backstory came from so it's hardly like the 200x toon pulled that outta their backsides.

It adds depth to the character rather than just another typical bad guy, this makes him a fallen man. It also means that your villain is actual in the right and was wronged by the heroes so it adds layers to all characters.


Also scar is based on Claudius from hamlet so it's not like disney came up with it, it's a story that stood the test of time

 

[TheVileOne]

If anything Lion King ripped off Mattel and the mini-comics...and Kimba .

 

[TheVileOne]

...that, and Thor:TDW, while not as "standout" as its predecessor or The Avengers films, it's still a solid film(much like The Incredible Hulk) and it does show shades of how a MOTU-film could be effectively handled on celluloid. Again, Yost's body of work is the one that truly does inspire the most enthusiasm from the previous writers.

Definitely. Jeff Wadlow was enthusiastic, but I'm just skeptical he could pull this off. Everything Alex Litvak wrote was pretty much rejected and will never see the light of day. Basically, he hated pretty much everything about Masters of the Universe and said it wouldn't work and had to completely change it.

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

If anything Lion King ripped off Mattel and the mini-comics...and Kimba .

You know that's an out and out lie, no one had ever heard of that show kimba .the high voiced mouse said so

 

[DawnWarrior]

Besides, and the whole half-brotherly royalty stuff didn't hurt Thor.

 

[Mikelus]

The 2000s cartoon is weak and making him Scar from Lion King is lazy.

If the 2002 series is "weak", then the Filmation cartoon is what?

The 2002 show had more character development, it made Skeletor more interesting, it had less filler, was less childish, etc. The original series is so mediocre and dumb sometimes... Adam and He-Man looking the same besides the latter having a tan, just laughable. Hopefully, the movie won't be that dumb.

Umm no just no. You ever hear of the search for Keldor, it's the mini comic from the 80s where that whole backstory came from so it's hardly like the 200x toon pulled that outta their backsides.

It adds depth to the character rather than just another typical bad guy, this makes him a fallen man. It also means that your villain is actual in the right and was wronged by the heroes so it adds layers to all characters.

Also scar is based on Claudius from hamlet so it's not like disney came up with it, it's a story that stood the test of time

Exactly, it's a classic, while a cartoonish villain like the Filmation Skeletor is just pure laziness and mediocrity.

 

[Thundarr]

Umm no just no. You ever hear of the search for Keldor, it's the mini comic from the 80s where that whole backstory came from so it's hardly like the 200x toon pulled that outta their backsides.

It adds depth to the character rather than just another typical bad guy, this makes him a fallen man. It also means that your villain is actual in the right and was wronged by the heroes so it adds layers to all characters.


Also scar is based on Claudius from hamlet so it's not like disney came up with it, it's a story that stood the test of time

I was going to say almost the exact same thing. You just beat me to the punch.

The Skeletor from the 1980's Filmation series was just so poorly written. He was evil because he likes to be evil? No one is that one dimensional.

Most real life criminals have a reason for being the way they are. Sometimes they don't see themselves as villains, but rather misunderstood people who live outside the law. Many gangsters, for example, became criminals as a means of supporting their families. Stealing a loaf of bread or a sausage to feed your starving family might be criminal, but it's hardly evil. But one thing leads to another and eventually they start doing stuff that can be classified as evil, yet they still rationalize it as just trying to provide for their families.

Many serial killers grew up in abusive households. As adults, when they begin killing, they often choose victims that remind them of their abusers while growing up. Now while their actions are certainly evil, they don't just kill "because they're evil and it's the evil thing to do." they kill because, at least subconsciously, in their minds they are avenging themselves against their abusers.

So a Skeletor who feels he is justified in taking over and ruling Eternia is far more interesting (not to mention somewhat more realistic) than one who wants to "just because he's eeeeeevillllll."

(Incidentally, I'd be kinds curious to see an animatedForever" MOTU movie much like "Turtles Forever". But instead of the Ninja Turtles from the 2000's series meeting the turtles from the 1980's series and the turtles from the original B&W comics, we get a crossover between the 2000's MOTU series, the 1980's Filmation series, and the 1990's New Adventures Of He-Man series. That could be fun to watch.)

 

[Thundarr]

You know that's an out and out lie, no one had ever heard of that show kimba .the high voiced mouse said so

Hey, I used to watch Kimba as a kid. It was a great show.

 

[rogue trooper]

If the 2002 series is "weak", then the Filmation cartoon is what?

The 2002 show had more character development, it made Skeletor more interesting, it had less filler, was less childish, etc. The original series is so mediocre and dumb sometimes... Adam and He-Man looking the same besides the latter having a tan, just laughable. Hopefully, the movie won't be that dumb.




Exactly, it's a classic, while a cartoonish villain like the Filmation Skeletor is just pure laziness and mediocrity.

I sometimes wonder why Filmation's Skeletor couldn't have been more threatening like Ming The Merciless in Filmation's Flash Gordon(also voiced by Allan Oppenheimer). I still find the He-Man Filmation stuff fun to watch, but yeah...,

 

[Thundarr]

I sometimes wonder why Filmation's Skeletor couldn't have been more threatening like Ming The Merciless in Filmation's Flash Gordon(also voiced by Allan Oppenheimer). I still find the He-Man Filmation stuff fun to watch, but yeah...,

Different times I suppose. I think Filmation's Flash Gordon was on TV in the late 70's/very early 80's. By the time He-Man came on, 1983, villains had to be "Evil but harmless" to keep from frightening the kids. At least that's my best guess.

 

[terry78]

They saved truly horrible villains for animated movies in the 80s. Those ****ers were cutthroat due to the non-restrictions.

 

[Pink Ranger]

I sometimes wonder why Filmation's Skeletor couldn't have been more threatening like Ming The Merciless in Filmation's Flash Gordon(also voiced by Allan Oppenheimer). I still find the He-Man Filmation stuff fun to watch, but yeah...,

Mainly because of the European markets, they had to tone down a lot of things that could have been considered scary. Also why there are so many non-Skeletor episodes too.

 

[The Overlord]

I would hope a He-Man movie would be better then the GI Joe and Transformers movies we have gotten.

 

[superhero]

i think they should let peter jackson's director it . it could be like lord of the rings movies.

 

[Jordacar]

Sure, I love my He-Man movies when they're 70 minutes too long.

 

[TheVileOne]

i think they should let peter jackson's director it . it could be like lord of the rings movies.

Highly doubt Jackson does this film after just completing a Hobbit trilogy.

 

[aNarcHy2day]

My dream director is Guillermo Del Toro but that's never gonna happen!

 

[Airwings]

Skeletor should be the villain in this. The only one (the henchmen are allowed)
No-one other should appear in flashbacks either. Hinted upon, yes, but not mentioned or seen. That's food for a sequel.

Enter King Hiss & The Snakemen!

And YES, if Jackson hadn't tired of making big spectacle films, he would be a truly great choice for this.

 

[Thundarr]

Skeletor should be the villain in this. The only one (the henchmen are allowed)
No-one other should appear in flashbacks either. Hinted upon, yes, but not mentioned or seen. That's food for a sequel.

Enter King Hiss & The Snakemen!

And YES, if Jackson hadn't tired of making big spectacle films, he would be a truly great choice for this.

Agreed. Save King Hiss and the snakemen for a future sequel. And not necessarily the very first sequel either. Have Skeletor and his henchmen be the main villains in the first and second movie. Maybe add a couple of additional henchmen in the sequel, just to up the ante a bit. Then if those movies are both successful, that's when you break out King Hiss and the snakemen.

 

[Airwings]

Agreed. Save King Hiss and the snakemen for a future sequel. And not necessarily the very first sequel either. Have Skeletor and his henchmen be the main villains in the first and second movie. Maybe add a couple of additional henchmen in the sequel, just to up the ante a bit. Then if those movies are both successful, that's when you break out King Hiss and the snakemen.

I had another one on mind for the third film. The most powerful warlord of them all.

 

[Thundarr]

I had another one on mind for the third film. The most powerful warlord of them all.

I'm guessing Hordak? I'd save him for the fourth film.

1st Movie: The origins of Skeletor and He-Man. Skeletor and his henchmen are soundly defeated.

2nd Movie: Skeletor gathers some additional henchmen, becoming an even greater threat. He-Man nearly loses the battle but pulls out a victory at the last moment.

3rd Movie: Skeletor is defeated by King Hiss, who takes over Snake Mountain. He-Man must team up not only with Zodak to defeat the snakemen, but also forge an uneasy alliance with Skeletor as well.

4th Movie: Skeletor, his forces depleted due to the invasion of King Hiss and his snakemen, joins forces with Hordak and his army. Enter Prince Adam's long lost sister Adora, who transforms into She-Ra: Princess Of Power.

That's how I see the movies playing out at least.

 

[terry78]

Do we wanna integrate She-Ra into this franchise?

I actually would like to see them do it.