Grayskull: Masters of the Universe - Part 2

[Airwings]

I really wonder how high tech elements will work in a LOTR esque world. I can't even imagine what it will look like.
But that's what MOTU is supposed to be

 

[Alien Anal]

What is the future tech of the MOTU world?

Similar to Mad max fury road I imagine but less apocalyptic and more fantasy

Imo they could make this a very simple story similar to that of 300 or Fury Road with also the over stylized painterly look of those films.

He-Man is a wandering barbarian on Eternia, a world dealing with the aftermath of a Great War that has devastated the civilizations that once reigned, but has left behind fantastical machinery and weapons. The events of the Great War opened a rift between dimensions which allows the evil warlord Skeletor to travel to Eternia, and he has now set his sights on the ancient Castle Grayskull, the 'fortress of mystery and power'.

Whoever attains control of Grayskull will gain the power to become Master of the Universe. To prevent Skeletor from achieving his goal, He-Man has been given special powers and weapons by The Sorceress and sets out to defend the castle from Skeletor.

He-Man is supported by several heroic allies, such as Man-At-Arms, the Eternian master of weapons, and Teela, the adopted daughter of Man-At-Arms. Skeletor manages to find one half of the Power Sword, a great weapon which is itself the key to Castle Grayskull. He-Man has been given the other half by The Sorceress, and must prevent Skeletor from linking the two halves to gain access to the castle.

Oh and it totally has to be called GRAYSKULL, such a bad ass name

 

[Airwings]

Cool, but don't forget Adam.

 

[Dark Raven]

Grayskull: The Legend of He-Man, Lord of the Apes.

 

[Alien Anal]

Its not letting me post these images up but if someone else could for me

These totally gives off the Fury Road kind of vibe that I was talking about
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/110690103319472798/
http://palitonageral.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/ah-se-todos-os-comics-fosse-assim.html <-- These are rad.

These are just some cool looking Skelator concepts.
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/110690103319472789/
http://onlymilo.deviantart.com/art/SKELETOR-374167834

ORKO
http://www.digitalartistdaily.com/image/13369/orko_masters_of_the_universe

I was reading back through this thread and noticed Whisky Tango said they wanted this film to be like a Frazetta painting and I couldnt agree more, that is totally the look and feel I want from a MOTU film.

 

[TheVileOne]

What is the future tech of the MOTU world?

Similar to Mad max fury road I imagine but less apocalyptic and more fantasy

Imo they could make this a very simple story similar to that of 300 or Fury Road with also the over stylized painterly look of those films.

He-Man is a wandering barbarian on Eternia, a world dealing with the aftermath of a Great War that has devastated the civilizations that once reigned, but has left behind fantastical machinery and weapons. The events of the Great War opened a rift between dimensions which allows the evil warlord Skeletor to travel to Eternia, and he has now set his sights on the ancient Castle Grayskull, the 'fortress of mystery and power'.

Whoever attains control of Grayskull will gain the power to become Master of the Universe. To prevent Skeletor from achieving his goal, He-Man has been given special powers and weapons by The Sorceress and sets out to defend the castle from Skeletor.

He-Man is supported by several heroic allies, such as Man-At-Arms, the Eternian master of weapons, and Teela, the adopted daughter of Man-At-Arms. Skeletor manages to find one half of the Power Sword, a great weapon which is itself the key to Castle Grayskull. He-Man has been given the other half by The Sorceress, and must prevent Skeletor from linking the two halves to gain access to the castle.

Oh and it totally has to be called GRAYSKULL, such a bad ass name

It's really not like Mad Max at all.

It's like a medieval-ish fantasy world, but they have computer system, electricity, flying machines etc. Even in the old mini-comics, there was technology in the books that's pretty advanced. Grayskull had computer systems, Man-at-Arms had various vehicles and what not.

 

[Alien Anal]

It's really not like Mad Max at all.

It's like a medieval-ish fantasy world, but they have computer system, electricity, flying machines etc. Even in the old mini-comics, there was technology in the books that's pretty advanced. Grayskull had computer systems, Man-at-Arms had various vehicles and what not.

Well yeh sure I guess the similarities to MM that I was making was more the Barbaric waste land of a world that is scattered with tech from the world once before.

Fury Road road obviously has various vehicles and electricity (Im guessing from the guitar dude on the front of the truck), sure its set in the real world and not the high fantasy of MOTU but I think similarities can be made.

It was more of a way to help visualize it in a live action setting I guess.

*Thanks for explaining what their tech is like.

 

[TheVileOne]

OK but Eternia's not really a Wasteland. There are deserts and probably some swamp lands and marshes, but not it's not a wasteland.

It's just not developed and there aren't huge metal cities and what not.

The technology isn't really scattered either. It's readily available. But I guess it just depends on what version you prefer.

When He-Man is first introduced, he's a random dude who leaves his village to go off and explore Eternia and defend it from evildoers.

He did sort of resemble sort of a nicer Conan the Barbarian type. So parts of Eternia were primitive, but as it developed, more technology elements were seeded in. I guess you might consider parts of the Dark Hemisphere a Wasteland though.

Alien Anal, I guess to draw a better comparison, they are going for something more like Thor: The Dark World than Mad Max: Fury Road. Basically, Eternia in a modern MOTU movie should closely resemble how Asgard looked in Thor 2. Not exactly, but something like that is your point of reference.

 

[Alien Anal]

Sure wasteland was probably not the right word for what I was going for. I dont reallly know the world of MOTU and am just going from Wiki

"The original concept of Eternia is as a world with a barbaric civilization, recovering from an ambiguous Great War, that has wiped out advanced civilizations, but has left behind advanced technology, vehicles and machinery, as well as powerful magic." That conjures up Mad Max kind of visuals, now im not saying exactly like Mad Max but just some similarities

Any recommended readings to get a good grasp of what Eternia is like?

When you say "they are going for something more like Thor" do you mean they as in the movie makers or they the original creators of MOTU?

I guess what I ultimately want is for a MOTU film that looks like a Frazetta painting. Sure there is a good chance its not what we will get but man I would love that.

 

[TheVileOne]

You can check out the Mini-Comic omnibus. It's a pretty deep tome, but it's pretty inexpensive and has all the original mini-comics plus mini-comics from New Adventures, She-Ra, and 200x and MOTUC.

But that will give you like all the original mini-comic stories. So you see some of the ideas for the whole world when they were still not fully formed and developed. Like early on, He-Man doesn't even really use the sword at all. Most of the early stories are basically about keeping the two halves separate from Skeletor.

Also, you can always just watch the 2002 series which was a pretty good retelling of the whole mythology.

 

[Alien Anal]

http://old.he-man.org/primary_sects/comics/html/mini_comics/motu/index.shtml

Are these the mini-comics you are talking of? Man that **** sucks haha :P

I am watching the first ep of the 2002 series and man that also blows. I totally didnt know MOTU was that lame.

Where is the bad ass Conan style He man? Does it exist?

 

[TheVileOne]

Yeah. The pack-ins with the original figures.

 

[Alien Anal]

Ah yes. well no disrespect to those that enjoy that show or early comics but man that was painful to watch. I had to look at some Frazetta paintings to cleanse my soul.

What is the most gritty and raw MOTU comic series? Is there any? It seems so far that the 80s movie wasnt actually that bad compared to the comics and cartoons

 

[TheVileOne]

Ah yes. well no disrespect to those that enjoy that show or early comics but man that was painful to watch. I had to look at some Frazetta paintings to cleanse my soul.

What is the most gritty and raw MOTU comic series? Is there any? It seems so far that the 80s movie wasnt actually that bad compared to the comics and cartoons

MOTU is never gritty and raw. You are barking up the wrong tree if that's what you are looking for. Like I said, it's not Mad Max. It's not Frazetta or Heavy Metal.

 

[Alien Anal]

Alright alright my mistake..

 

[rogue trooper]

I thought the art by Alfredo Alcala in the early mini comics was quite nice. I thought it had some of that same quality John Buscema's Conan art had.

 

[TheVileOne]

I thought the art by Alfredo Alcala in the early mini comics was quite nice. I thought it had some of that same quality John Buscema's Conan art had.

Alcala actually also did art for Conan books, and I agree with you.

I also liked his artwork. It was like classic sword and sorcery fantasy with some sci-fi elements mixed in.

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

The problem with just using the original mini comics is, that they're boring a lot of the more well known aspects didn't come from them. It's a standard Conan rip off with ohh this guy has this power


As much as I hate to say it because I hate the guy behind it, the amalgamation of all timelines that is the classics works best it takes from everything

 

[marcvader]

Ah yes. well no disrespect to those that enjoy that show or early comics but man that was painful to watch. I had to look at some Frazetta paintings to cleanse my soul.

What is the most gritty and raw MOTU comic series? Is there any? It seems so far that the 80s movie wasnt actually that bad compared to the comics and cartoons

Lol. What you're visualizing isn't MOTU. Remember like all other 80's toys they were meant for kids. Like 10-12 year old kids and I'm sure you're not that. The cartoons and comics were more of the same. You've probably seen some adult version concept art and that's just an adult artist injecting their adult sensibilities made to look gritty.

 

[TheVileOne]

The problem with just using the original mini comics is, that they're boring a lot of the more well known aspects didn't come from them. It's a standard Conan rip off with ohh this guy has this power


As much as I hate to say it because I hate the guy behind it, the amalgamation of all timelines that is the classics works best it takes from everything

So I'm clear, for this to be a great movie, I wouldn't want them to go strict mini-comics route either. The best route ideally would be something similar to the 2002 series which sort of streamlined the whole mythology into a new, more organic mythology.

The Justin Marks script however was just really disjointed and weird and not really a complete story.

 

[rogue trooper]

Alcala actually also did art for Conan books, and I agree with you.

I also liked his artwork. It was like classic sword and sorcery fantasy with some sci-fi elements mixed in.

Yep. Flash Gordon and Conan combined.

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

They should add some moral after the end credits, just for fun. "Don't torture your dog" or "turn off the phone when you watch movies, you stupid idiot".

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

So I'm clear, for this to be a great movie, I wouldn't want them to go strict mini-comics route either. The best route ideally would be something similar to the 2002 series which sort of streamlined the whole mythology into a new, more organic mythology.

The Justin Marks script however was just really disjointed and weird and not really a complete story.

Tvo you should know me from way back and over at the org. So you know we're on the same page with our views on this film and I agree 200x seems like the best way to go. I just think including some of the elements of the classics bios means it opens the scale a lot more to stuff the 200x series sadly didn't get a chance to see


Though of course we can keep the Mary Sues dead pool rip off to a minimum lol

 

[TheVileOne]

Tvo you should know me from way back and over at the org. So you know we're on the same page with our views on this film and I agree 200x seems like the best way to go. I just think including some of the elements of the classics bios means it opens the scale a lot more to stuff the 200x series sadly didn't get a chance to see


Though of course we can keep the Mary Sues dead pool rip off to a minimum lol

LOL I mean I don't want strict 200x either, I just mean use 200x as a rough outline on how you can adapt it using a lot of the concepts that have been referenced in the past. Like that can help you map out a whole franchise or trilogy if it goes that far.

Of course you can use the new bios, new mini-comics and all that jazz too. IMHO everything should be available. I think from their they could create some sort of bible for the movie.

To me the big concern is can they get a new movie done and can it be a big enough hit to produce a franchise. That's what I'm not sure about. Sometimes I feel like MOTU is too bygone or you would have to change too much to make it more appealing to today's crowds.

The other concern is if there is a filmmaker out there who really loves this material but can also execute it in a way so it sings on film and can still be fun and appealing but audiences still don't find it ridiculous.

 

[Paradox1]

I had this thought there is a lot of fantasy making their way to tv. I think MOTU could probably work on TV. The problem I foresee is battlecat being a character you see weekly.

I've been hearing a lot of people say the mid level movie is dead in Hollywood. Those films which would fit in there are making their way to tv. If Motu is not a big enough name to warrant a budget big enough to make it a blockbuster type film. Then tv may be the only hope to ever see it in live action.