Green Lantern reboot ideas.

No one is saying this. He has enough potential for JL, but not enough to carry his own film. Hal is the best choice for this. His story is epic. His ties to Star Sapphire and Sinestro are some of the central relationships in GL, they need to be shown. John doesn't have a solid nemesis like Hal does. And a forced John/Sinestro conflict wouldn't be as satisfying as Hal vs Sinestro

Does he have to carry his own film?

Hawkeye and Black Widow were in The Avengers. They don't carry their own films.

Make John and Hal the dual leads of a GLCorps movie.

It'll be easier to get audiences onboard with the GL superhero with a badass John Stewart in the JL movie. Once the Gl concept is redeemed, hopefully that'll generate interest in a solo movie where they can reintroduce Hal, and hopefully people will then see why he's so awesome.

(but they'll probably just use Hal from the get-go, which is fine. I just think it'd be easier for them to use John).
 
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Yeah it was one of the worst movies I've ever seen. Using John in JL FORCES WB into creating a brand new story for a solo GL movie. Most successful comic book movies borrow from the source material, but if they use John, they won't really be able to do that. They don't have that problem with Hal. With Hal there is a wealth of stories that they can pick and choose elements from to enhance a movie. Huge advantage there.

Also like I was saying, the partnership between Sinestro and Hal should be explored before Sinestro's downfall. That'd be really interesting to see. Maybe John and Hal can take down Sinestro together. I also think in a new GL series they should focus on all the different colored corps, and Hal was the central character in that storyline in the comics.

Geoff Johns' run is the perfect place to look for inspiration for a Green Lantern movie. Take Johns' run, combine it with the visuals of Prometheus, with a bit lighter tone and a likable lead, and there's an awesome movie.
 
John, Kyle or Guy don't have to carry the movie as most of the focus will be on Batman and Superman anyway.
 
Does he have to carry his own film?

Hawkeye and Black Widow were in The Avengers. They don't carry their own films.

Make John and Hal the dual leads of a GLCorps movie.

Um...WB would say yes to this. The goal of introducing new superheroes is making money obviously. Naturally they'd want to introduce a character that could possibly carry a franchise, seeing as how superhero franchise are so popular right now. Hawkeye and Black Widow have never had the same franchise/story potential as Green Lantern does, i don't think they're comparable. GL is one of DC's main characters, both Hawkeye and Black Widow are pretty minor.

The fact that you suggest John and Hal being the lead leads me to believe you don't think he could carry his own film. Hal easily could. He doesn't have to lean on another character to work.

I love the John/Hal dual lead idea, but I'd want Hal to be the main character for sure.
 
John, Kyle or Guy don't have to carry the movie as most of the focus will be on Batman and Superman anyway.

No one is disagreeing with this?

Rorschach2012 said:
He has enough potential for JL, but not enough to carry his own film

From my post on the previous page

Not much focus will be placed on GL in a JL movie. He won't be the main character. Batman and Superman will steal the spotlight. It'd be easy for John to work there, his character won't likely have an arc, he'll likely do and say a few cool things and the audience will like GL again. It's easy to win them over in a role like this.

But for a solo movie, you have to look at character potential. Hal has so many great stories to take inspiration from. John has one limiting story.
 
I definitely think John can carry his own movie.

I personally love the Hal/Sinetro story though, and I'd want to see that as well. So why not have a movie with both? (I think they should throw Guy Gardner in there as well....).

Hal could definitely be the main character.

I just think that you're going to get more people to the cinema with John Stewart in there as well, the badass guy from the JL movie.

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I guess my main point is that you don't have to introduce your lead character of GLCorps (Hal Jordan) in the JL movie to generate interest in the solo movie. What's more important is getting people interested in the "Green Lantern" again to get people interested in the "Green Lantern" solo movie. I think this would be easier with John. They can always introduce Hal, the lead, in the solo movie itself.
 
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No one is disagreeing with this?



From my post on the previous page

Not much focus will be placed on GL in a JL movie. He won't be the main character. Batman and Superman will steal the spotlight. It'd be easy for John to work there, his character won't likely have an arc, he'll likely do and say a few cool things and the audience will like GL again. It's easy to win them over in a role like this.

But for a solo movie, you have to look at character potential. Hal has so many great stories to take inspiration from. John has one limiting story.

Say they introduce John to JL in the solo GL John will be the audience's 'in' and there could be an already established corp with Hal and Kyle and Guy already members.
 
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I can get behind the idea of John on the JL with Hal as the main character and John in a slightly smaller role in a solo movie.

For me, the main appeal of superhero movies is the relationship with their arch nemesis'. Batman has Joker, Superman has Luthor, Wonder Woman has Ares, Flash has Reverse Flash, Green Lantern has Sinestro. if they decide to make more GL movies, they'll be missing out on one of the main reasons I'm interested in GL. The Hal/Sinestro relationship. I have no interest in seeing a forced John/Sinestro relationship.
 
I can get behind the idea of John on the JL with Hal as the main character and John in a slightly smaller role in a solo movie.

For me, the main appeal of superhero movies is the relationship with their arch nemesis'. Batman has Joker, Superman has Luthor, Wonder Woman has Ares, Flash has Reverse Flash, Green Lantern has Sinestro. if they decide to make more GL movies, they'll be missing out on one of the main reasons I'm interested in GL. The Hal/Sinestro relationship. I have no interest in seeing a forced John/Sinestro relationship.


I was introduced to Green Lantern by JL/JLU so I could care less if Hal never shows up again.
 
I was introduced to Green Lantern by JL/JLU so I could care less if Hal never shows up again.

That's how it goes. People that only know of GL through that show shouldn't care about Hal Jordan. That show ended almost ten years ago though. Youre a part of an older generation. I'd say that any new fans of the character are fans of Hal Jordan. JLU is on Netflix, but the majority of recent appearances from GL have been Hal Jordan.

I thought GL: First Flight was better than any GL centric episodes on JL but that's just my opinion.

This is strange for me. I come to " THE SUPERHEROHYPE BOARDS" to talk to like minded comicbook nerds about movies. I didn't expect so many casual non fans on such a hardcore nerdy forum.

There used to be a much bigger GL fan community, I wonder what happened? Why are the only people talking about Green Lantern such casual fans on a website like this?
 
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I can get behind the idea of John on the JL with Hal as the main character and John in a slightly smaller role in a solo movie.

For me, the main appeal of superhero movies is the relationship with their arch nemesis'. Batman has Joker, Superman has Luthor, Wonder Woman has Ares, Flash has Reverse Flash, Green Lantern has Sinestro. if they decide to make more GL movies, they'll be missing out on one of the main reasons I'm interested in GL. The Hal/Sinestro relationship. I have no interest in seeing a forced John/Sinestro relationship.

I have to say this. Rorschach2012, I came into this thread prepared to argue for John in the GL franchise as the headliner, but you've converted me. The arguments I was going to raise you've already rebutted. So I now agree, Hal for the main GL solo movies.

I would like your opinion on something though. Perhaps Hal could be the solo movies GL, introduce John, and John would be the one to join the JLA for that movie? Hal may be far to busy with the stories you alluded to earlier in this thread, but it might be easier to work John in. The best analogy I can think of is that it would be like if War Machine joined the Avengers instead of Ironman, but that doesn't work because the 1st two Ironman movies were buildingtowards Stark in Avengers (I feel as though I'm getting off my point here though).

It could be a way to establish both characters and each one's strengths. What do you think?
 
I have to say this. Rorschach2012, I came into this thread prepared to argue for John in the GL franchise as the headliner, but you've converted me. The arguments I was going to raise you've already rebutted. So I now agree, Hal for the main GL solo movies.

I would like your opinion on something though. Perhaps Hal could be the solo movies GL, introduce John, and John would be the one to join the JLA for that movie? Hal may be far to busy with the stories you alluded to earlier in this thread, but it might be easier to work John in. The best analogy I can think of is that it would be like if War Machine joined the Avengers instead of Ironman, but that doesn't work because the 1st two Ironman movies were buildingtowards Stark in Avengers (I feel as though I'm getting off my point here though).

It could be a way to establish both characters and each one's strengths. What do you think?

Hahaha i'm glad I could convert you!
This idea totally works!

I think a good compromise would be to include John Stewart as JL in Green Lantern's first appearance in the DCU. Then, if he's successful, spin off a movie with Hal as the lead and John as a supporting character
 
If I had to guess:

-comic readers like Hal Jordan the most (because he has the greatest number of quality stories).

-GAs know Hal Jordan the best (perhaps not my name) but don't like him or the concept of Green Lantern.

-GAs are more likely to get excited for a JL movie that isn't made up of failures like the silly Green Lantern from the god awful movie from a few years back.

-Most GAs don't know who John Stewart is but they're more likely to like him and the Green Lantern concept because they know he's not Hal.

-GAs are more likely to see a GL solo movie with the GL they saw and enjoyed in the JL movie, and they're more likely to enjoy the solo movie if it uses the story potential of Hal/Sinestro. Ergo, introduce Hal in the solo movie alongside John. Problem solved. (and introduce Guy Gardner too :) )

-WB/DC will use Hal Jordan in the JL movie.
 
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I'm glad you like it-that idea came into my head after reading your arguments for Hal. I haven't thought it through much (although it's not like I'm a scriptwriter or anything) but I think the idea has potential. If fine right it could lead into a Green Lantern Corp movie where we all get our favorite lantern fighting against some huge threat (black lanterns maybe?)
 
you nailed it, feed. i still feel like we'd be missing out on the relationship between Hal and the rest of the League though. His personality fits so well within the context of the team

Black Lanterns would need a lot of build up but would be good for a final villain of a trilogy. I think we definitely should see all the different corps, maybe not the indigo lanterns though
 
That's true, but there are always story elements that get sacrificed in any translation to cinema, especially team ups. As long as we don't get Bane from Batman and Robin, of course.

We could even have Hal be the one recommending John for the JLA. Give us a small moment with the team, crack a joke at Flash, and be on his way.
 
That's true, but there are always story elements that get sacrificed in any translation to cinema, especially team ups. As long as we don't get Bane from Batman and Robin, of course.

We could even have Hal be the one recommending John for the JLA. Give us a small moment with the team, crack a joke at Flash, and be on his way.

True yeah I could live with it, it's just not my preference. I just want to see JL, that's the main thing. I'll be disappointed if it's John in JL, but it'd still work and I'd still see and enjoy the movie.

Anyone saying they want JL to tank if it uses the new 52 team is being embarrassingly immature. The cool thing will be the fact that JL is finally being made, not which GL is in the film.
 
True yeah I could live with it, it's just not my preference. I just want to see JL, that's the main thing. I'll be disappointed if it's John in JL, but it'd still work and I'd still see and enjoy the movie.

Anyone saying they want JL to tank if it uses the new 52 team is being embarrassingly immature. The cool thing will be the fact that JL is finally being made, not which GL is in the film.

I agree with you on the whole new 52 team thing. Just watch the movie-but then again if Spider-Man or Wolverine had been in the Avengers I might have waited for DVD on that one (hooray for studio rights), so I have my vices, just not with the new 52 team.
 
No one in their right mind can watch one episode of GLTAS(the first one for that matter) and proclaim all the BS you've posted while feeling justified. You're either trying to show as if you gave Hal a chance or just plain dumb. Hmm, slipping in old age are we. Let me refresh your memory: " I watched the 1st ep of his canceled animated series before I gave up on it. I know enough about him to know he's not for everybody." I wonder if this makes you a liar or a hypocrite. I think I'll go with both to be on the safe side.
Neither, it just continues your tradition of not being good at anything. Did you purposely leave out the part right before that where I talked about seeing the movies? Anybody who read what I posted & thinks "this guy is basing his opinion of Hal off of one GL episode" should think again.

This question is for everybody else in the room. Regardless of what you think of my opinion, does anybody else think that I'm basing my opinion of Hal off 1 ep of his show?
How about you keep quiet, and let people who actually know what they're talking about talk about it. http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/04/18/what-exactly-did-robert-venditti-say-about-plans-to-kill-off-john-stewart/
This is the link. They were nothing but silly rumours. If DC wanted John dead, he'd be dead and there would be absolutely nothing you'd be able to do about it.
Or they're doing damage control. I may be slipping, but I don't see the writers story in there. Even the people at bleeding cool still aren't sure of the situation. You probably didn't catch onto that because you can't comprehend what you read worth a damn. Seems more like DC got a negative reaction & now they're just doing damage control. Why'd the writer leave in the 1st place?
Christ lord, I feel I'm talking to a one year old. Here and I quote:"Guess what. The writer who quit was NOT black. Mind-blowing isn't it? JS would also attract nonblack moviegoers who enjoy him on JLU and/or the comics. He even has white fans! Amazing!" This whole statement implies John as being the only person blacks and whites would come to watch. Word your stuff better, and if you can't, don't bring it in at all. Geez. Yo're terrible around issues like this. No wonder Rorshcach called you out.
The 1year old can probably grasp simple concepts better than you. I was saying what I said to show that John has some fans that aren't black. My statement doesn't imply at all what you think it does. Not even close. You aren't really good at comprehending things. And this is even AFTER I said how this was my reply to him to keep him from bringing up race in relation to liking a character. I spelled it out for you & you STILL didn't get it. What is wrong w/you?

Rorshach, did you honestly get the same thing he did out of my post?
Spidey's costume is silly. Its incredibly hard to see through, talk through and hear through, not to mention the nasty rash it would give him. But you and I love it anyway cus they're superheroes, and they don't exist in our world and also due to escapism and such. The fact that you think its silly for whatever dumb reason you make up doesn't mean it is silly. Its subjective. If you don't like it, fine, but don't talk out of your a$$ as if its too silly for a live adaptation when Captain America wears wingtips and Spidey has bugeyes. And really you're bringing the term icon into the discussion? Iron man was nothing close to an icon when he's movie was released. Now he's had a successful trilogy and headlined the Avengers. You don't need to be loved by the GA prior to a movie for them to watch the movie. Just put a good superhero flick and people would watch it. A concept which escapes you for some reason.
Read up on Spidey's mask some. If I think Hal's mask looks silly in live action I'm gonna say it. I have a right to say it & you have a right to disagree. The fanboy in you is what keeps you from being civil about it & makes you get annoyed. Work on that. Cap has wingtips? Are you talking about when he was doing those shows across America?
They have forgotten it. People like looking for any reason to tarnish Hal hold the movie tightly to their chest as a sort of weapon. I've yet to see DC/WB even reference the movie or even give it thought. Like a corporation with common sense, they are looking forward to the future and aren't carrying any old baggage or looking/referencing at past failures. If you have any proof they still hold it tight and blame it on Hal then pls bring it, cus right now, the only thing you're achieving is making me lose hope you'll ever make sense.
lol. You keep topping yourself. Already said burden of proof is on you. So because they're not talking about it, they've forgotten it? So anytime somebody fails & doesn't talk about it, they've forgotten it. :| That's some of the dumbest logic I've ever seen & I say that w/no malice.

lol Any of the Hal supporters think DCs forgotten about Hal's live action failure? Am I the only person who thinks they remember it but don't talk much about it because people don't normally love to talk about how bad they ****ed up? :) Rorshach, anybody? Maybe if it comes from someone Tommy doesn't see as the enemy he'll think about how crazy he sounds.
You call people out for getting too fired up about this, but you're the one making a fool of himself and doing the very thing you're calling people out on. Your frustration shows through your posts.
Hothead? Really? Where is this coming from? I kept calm when you 1st started bringing it up. When you apologized, I said all was forgiven & we moved on. Where's the hothead part at?
........weird.
I don't like the new 52 JL roster. If using it on film hurts their pockets, they might try something else.
 
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Personally, I'd probably prefer Hal for the JL movie, but I don't feel too strongly about it.

I do really want to see John in live action for the first time after all, especially if they get Ejiofor or Elba (who said he's interested!).
 
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Use John for Justice League and then to reintroduce the franchise make a Green Lantern Corps film, possibly followed by Sinestro Corps War.

I loved Secret Origin and the relationship between Hal and Sinestro, but DC may have f***d up his origin for the next decade, so instead go right to where the epic bits are, SC war and possibly Blackest Night
 
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Jake Gyllenhaal as Hal Jordan

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Mads Mikkelsen as Thaal Sinestro

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Rose Byrne as Carol Ferris

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Idris Elba as John Stewart

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Berenice Marlohe as Katma Tui

Michael Gambon as the voice of Ganthet
Dennis Haysbert as the voice of Kilowog

I like the idea of Lawrence Makoare as Atrocitus too.

My ideal GL movie series features Hal, John, Carol, Sinestro, Arkillo, Kilowog, Katma Tui, Atrocitus, Larfleeze, Saint Walker, Scar, and Nekron
 
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That's how it goes. People that only know of GL through that show shouldn't care about Hal Jordan. That show ended almost ten years ago though. Youre a part of an older generation.


Way to hurt a guy :csad:
 
I think Elba as John Stewart would have mass appeal definately more so than Reynolds as Hal.
WB needs a JL home room and ANYTHING jeopardises that home run should be jettisoned ASAFP.
 
Way to hurt a guy :csad:

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No one will argue with the Reynolds complaint. He sucked. Everything about that movie sucked. It was just a bad movie, and it really didn't have to be . That shouldn't turn people off from Hal Jordan.

Batman and Wolverine are great characters, yet they still had horrible movies in Batman and Robin and X Men Origins: Wolverine. That doesn't mean they're bad characters. It just proves that even the best comic characters are able to have bad movies made about them. Hal deserves another chance, he's got all the focus on him and the best storylines/central relationships.

He's the central character to all of the Green Lantern's mythology. Pretty much every major GL character has ties to Hal Jordan. The same can't be said about John Stewart.

To make John Stewart work as the lead character, a lot of adjustments would have to be made. A LOT of changes from the comics. Stuff would have to be added and tweaked to make him nearly as interesting as Hal. Those changes would be unnecessary if they just featured Hal as the lead and John as a supporting character, just like it's always been in the comics.
 
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