Gtaiv delayed

[Zenien]

The Xbox sales really began to pick up as it's life went on, eventually outselling the PS2 for several months in 2004, which was no small feet.

Wasn't that the months where the PS2 was supply constrained and then went on to sell 500k plus in a row for 5 months?

Ironic that I bring that up, our new Wii overlords will probably break that accomplishment.

 

[Devil May Cry]

http://gametrailers.com/viewnews.php?id=4951

Sony involved in GTA4 delay?

"We think it is likely that the Rockstar team had difficulty in building an exceptionally complicated game for the PS3, and failed to recognize how far away from completion the game truly was until recently," Pachter said in a statement.

"We think it is also likely that Take-Two had a contractual commitment to Sony that it would not favor competitor Microsoft by launching the Xbox 360 version of GTA IV prior to launching the PS3 version, and believe that any delay of the PS3 version necessitated a delay of the Xbox 360 version," he added.

The analyst also criticized the timing of the delay being that the game was originally slated for release only 10 weeks from now. As reported yesterday, GTA4 is now expected in April 2008 at the earliest.

Pachter's opinions come at a time when several third-party developers, benchmark tests, and even Sony's own admittance that the PS3 is harder than the Xbox 360 when it comes to developing games given the former's propriety hardware.



I forget if someone posted this already. Maybe in the Xbox forum topic. I actually agree with this guy for once. Edit: Take two stock WILL apparently take a hard hit by this. I would be pissed if I were a shareholder.

More in depth:
Analyst questions Rockstar's capability

No doubt making himself popular with Sony, Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter has stated that he believes the complexity of development for the PS3 platform has resulted in the delay of Grand Theft Auto IV from October 2007 until Q2 2008.

Pachter believes publisher Rockstar have a contractual obligation to Sony, which means the Xbox 360 cannot get GTA IV before the PS3, hence why both versions of the title have been delayed despite the development issues primarily surrounding the PS3.

"We think it is likely that the Rockstar team had difficulty in building an exceptionally complicated game for the PS3, and failed to recognise how far away from completion the game truly was until recently," Pachter states.

"We think it is also likely that Take-Two had a contractual commitment to Sony that it would not favour competitor Microsoft by launching the Xbox 360 version of GTA IV prior to launching the PS3 version, and believe that any delay of the PS3 version necessitated a delay of the Xbox 360 version."

Pachter hints that Take-Two shareholders are unlikely to be greatly pleased by this delay, hinting that procedural issues at the firm may be partly to blame for this slippage.

"While the delay of GTA IV was clearly not the fault of new management, we believe that it should have been better understood several months ago, and should have been communicated to investors much earlier than today," Pachter comments.

"The company has begun an initiative to improve the green light process for new projects, but given the delays of Manhunt and GTA, its process for monitoring projects under development appears to be a failure."

http://play.tm/story/12237

 

[WhatsHisFace]

Read what I said. What was Xbox's market share at 25 million? So, you don't get defensive by a mere question I will ask you more indirectly, "how much market share did all 3 systems have last gen?" I'll look for it somewhere, but PS3 was around..60% right?

The PS2 had 70%. The Xbox had the better half of the remaining 30% and the Gamecube has what's left.

Ironic.

Cute, but wrong. My sources are up to date.

 

[Havok83]

this is a blessing in disguise bc Oct/Nov is the WORST month for gaming. Way too many titles are released and with no GTA4, this frees up my time to play other games

 

[블라스]

Wait, Splinter Cell sucks!

 

[Prolific]

its funny if you look at gamespot.com rumor control a analyst predicted that gta would get delayed so the could bolster there 2008 sales its a shame

 

[Havok83]

its funny if you look at gamespot.com rumor control a analyst predicted that gta would get delayed so the could bolster there 2008 sales its a shame

I actually remember that and thought it was ridiculous

 

[Prolific]

I actually remember that and thought it was ridiculous

I guess not now huh havok

 

[Devil May Cry]

Rockstar is a Sony exclusive company from now on?


http://www.cheatcc.com/podcast/week9/cccpd10aug307.mp3
http://www.n4g.com/industrynews/News-57037.aspx

Around 50 minutes. Like the last 1/3 of the track. They say the next GTA (after 4) will be exclusive and the remaining games Rockstar makes (not the ones in dev. already) will be Sony exclusive.

So these...
Beaterator PSP
Bully: Scholarship Edition Xbox 360, Wii
College Hoops 2K8 Xbox 360, PS3, PS2
Grand Theft Auto IV Xbox 360, PS3
Grand Theft Auto IV - Episodic Content Xbox 360
L.A. Noire PS3
Midnight Club: Los Angeles Xbox 360, PS3
Major League Baseball 2K8 Multiple Platforms
NBA 2K9 Multiple Platforms
NHL 2K9 Multiple Platforms
Sid Meier's Civilization Revolution Xbox 360, PS2, DS, Wii
Top Spin 3

Dont' count, except for LA Noire most likely.


Don't flame me for this, please. I'm just a messenger and the podcast is interesting, so I thought people might want to listen to it.

 

[StrainedEyes]

Rockstar is a Sony exclusive company from now on?


http://www.cheatcc.com/podcast/week9/cccpd10aug307.mp3
http://www.n4g.com/industrynews/News-57037.aspx

Around 50 minutes. Like the last 1/3 of the track. They say the next GTA (after 4) will be exclusive and the remaining games Rockstar makes (not the ones in dev. already) will be Sony exclusive.

So these...
Beaterator PSP
Bully: Scholarship Edition Xbox 360, Wii
College Hoops 2K8 Xbox 360, PS3, PS2
Grand Theft Auto IV Xbox 360, PS3
Grand Theft Auto IV - Episodic Content Xbox 360
L.A. Noire PS3
Midnight Club: Los Angeles Xbox 360, PS3
Major League Baseball 2K8 Multiple Platforms
NBA 2K9 Multiple Platforms
NHL 2K9 Multiple Platforms
Sid Meier's Civilization Revolution Xbox 360, PS2, DS, Wii
Top Spin 3

Dont' count, except for LA Noire most likely.


Don't flame me for this, please. I'm just a messenger and the podcast is interesting, so I thought people might want to listen to it.

Eh, I'll wait till a slightly better website says this. All we know for sure is that the next rockstar franchise is going to be Sony exclusive.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Wow...I doubt that it's true, but I'm dying to hear what Rockstar's response is.

 

[kingman]

I still hate going into stores are seeing Spring 2008 on the pre-order stickers after seeing them say October for so long

 

[hippy fascist]

somehow I don't think rockstar are going to sign an exclusivity deal with the lowest selling next gen console available at present. It makes no sense to put all your support behind the team currently coming last :

 

[WhatsHisFace]

That "deal" is 100% false. Sony can't afford to have Rockstar exclusive.

 

[Devil May Cry]

That "deal" is 100% false. Sony can't afford to have Rockstar exclusive.

I'm sorry are you saying "SOny can't afford to have Rockstar exlusive" from a monetary perspective?I don't want to assume anything, so I'll ask. I agree with hippie fascist that Sony is last, so it seems odd. However, since they have no problem paying the 1 billion dollars the PS3 cost them last year, it's hard to believe that their budget simply won't allow it. Aren't they ranked like 69th or something on Forbes' richest companies in the world? Hmmm Factor 5 switched platforms and went "exclusive" and so did NCSoft knowing that Sony was where it was. It could simply be a "We like the Cell. We want to work exclusively with that technology to make the best games possible." They already said that before, which is why Sony is getting that exclusive new franchise. Not sure but isn't LA Noire exclusive as well?
Microsoft can afford it as we all know, but maybe Rockstar is interested in developing for the Cell? They've had such a good relationship with Sony in the past, so it's plausible. I'm not saying it willhappen, but it could.

 

[XtromaniaK]

Who cares about Rockstar anyways? They're a ****ty company outside of the GTA franchise. Not to mention that they treat the developers that they publish for like ****. I.E. Human Head

Rockstar can finish GTAIV and keep making mediocre games for the PS3. Doesn't bother me.

 

[Devil May Cry]

LA Noire seems awesome IMO. Yeah, Rockstar has always been a "do our own thing" kind of company. Sony would never buy their exclusivity, it could just be an agreement as it was before.

 

[XtromaniaK]

Meh, like I said, I don't really care if they're attached to Sony's dick or not. I have problems with that developer/publisher on a moral basis. Not only are they arrogant as hell and think their **** smells like roses, they bully other developers and force their idiotic ideas on them.

 

[Devil May Cry]

Meh, like I said, I don't really care if they're attached to Sony's dick or not. I have problems with that developer/publisher on a moral basis. Not only are they arrogant as hell and think their **** smells like roses, they bully other developers and force their idiotic ideas on them.

Hahahahahaha. Won't be getting GTA4 then?

 

[XtromaniaK]

Probably not, I didn't get GTA:SA as it is. I just don't like them as a publisher, and with the Manhunt 2 fiasco awhile ago.. I really was hoping that they'd be drug under.

Like I said, I really don't like them. I don't like how they were bleeding Human Head out and got pissed off when 3D Realms had to help HH meet payroll because 3DR was taking the "control that they had over developers" out of their hands. It's sickening. Intentionally paying someone who's developing for you late so you can force them to do what you want.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I seriously think that Take-Two will put itself up for sale in pieces sooner or later due to crap like delaying Grand Theft Auto IV, 2K Sports doing nowhere near as good business as EA Sports, the Manhunt 2 fiasco, and the financial scandals.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Probably not, I didn't get GTA:SA as it is. I just don't like them as a publisher, and with the Manhunt 2 fiasco awhile ago.. I really was hoping that they'd be drug under.

Like I said, I really don't like them. I don't like how they were bleeding Human Head out and got pissed off when 3D Realms had to help HH meet payroll because 3DR was taking the "control that they had over developers" out of their hands. It's sickening. Intentionally paying someone who's developing for you late so you can force them to do what you want.

Yeah, Rockstar is full of bastards.

Like when they closed their Vienna office. No announcement at all and the employees show up for work to be greeted by security guards telling them that they have no job anymore.

Or just making Manhunt 2 simply for the controversy.

 

[Havok83]

somehow I don't think rockstar are going to sign an exclusivity deal with the lowest selling next gen console available at present. It makes no sense to put all your support behind the team currently coming last :

Money talks

 

[hippy fascist]

and console sales generate money

 

[Havok83]

and console sales generate money

yes it works both ways