Guardians of the Galaxy

[The Morningstar]

haha yea. There is a certain speech pattern that Thanos has. It's one of the little details that make him so great. Bendis fails to realise this.

My favourite Thanos scene is in Thanos Quest, where he is travelling through all these strange dimensions, being torn apart and reforming over and over again. And he's like "For I am Thanos, a unique being in any actuality" or something. Love that dialogue.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Avengers Assemble is garbage. And Bendis' dialogue for Thanos was laughable.

"You have made me mad. I am the Warrior of Death!"

Give me a ****ing break son. Go read some Starlin or Giffen comics Bri.

If you're still reading Bendis comics without being fully prepared for the dialogue to suck, you're pretty much begging for disappointment. I usually just tune the dialogue out the best I can and try to think of his comics more in terms of the events that occur.

 

[The Morningstar]

I read it, but didn't buy it.

And with characters like Thanos, the dialogue is a key thing. Those little details are what makes the characters so memorable and distinct. Bendis gets that he has an obsession with death sure, but that's just a basic fundamental. He either doesn't care or doesn't understand that it's the little details, like his dialogue, that sets Thanos apart.

It's like what he did with Doom, calling Ms Marvel a "fat cow". Doom would insult Ms Marvel sure, but he wouldn't use the words "fat cow". He'd call he a "gluttonous philistine" or something.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I agree completely, but again, it's Bendis. We're into our 8th year of him on the Avengers. We all know he can't do dialogue to save his life unless all the characters are from Noo Yawk.

Although, oddly enough, he kind of nails Thor's dialogue more often than he misses. It's weird. Maybe that's why I'm more forgiving of his dialogue in general now.

 

[NDX]

If you're still reading Bendis comics without being fully prepared for the dialogue to suck, you're pretty much begging for disappointment. I usually just tune the dialogue out the best I can and try to think of his comics more in terms of the events that occur.

I do that quite easily and even I was pissed off at how he wrote Thanos' dialogue in that last page. I was begging for this book to be non-canon at that point.

 

[THANOSRULES]

You guys are being a bit too hard on Bendis...I've never been a fan, but I'm enjoying Assembled and willing to give the arc a chance..

There really is no quintessential Avengers V Thanos story ( IG does not count), and i am hoping Bendis could deliver.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm enjoying Avengers Assemble too. But Thanos' dialogue was legitimately terrible.

 

[THANOSRULES]

I'm enjoying Avengers Assemble too. But Thanos' dialogue was legitimately terrible.

No worse than Remender's splash page of ant man a couple issues back in SA where ogrady called himself the "irredeemable ant man" kinda was dumb

 

[The Morningstar]

That's not really dumb, because that dialogue is fitting to the O' Grady character.

Thanos saying "You have made me mad Earthers... bla bla bla... I am deaths warrior!" That's appaling. Thanos would find the term "warrior" demeaning. He'd refer to himself as "Death's lover and consort" or something. And he threaten to "relinquish you Terrans from your mortal coils in reverence to m'lady Death" or some such.

I guess you could say that is being nit picky, but you know, it's all about the little details, that is what makes these characters awesome and memorable.

 

[Watchman]

That's not really dumb, because that dialogue is fitting to the O' Grady character.

Thanos saying "You have made me mad Earthers... bla bla bla... I am deaths warrior!" That's appaling. Thanos would find the term "warrior" demeaning. He'd refer to himself as "Death's lover and consort" or something. And he threaten to "relinquish you Terrans from your mortal coils in reverence to m'lady Death" or some such.

I guess you could say that is being nit picky, but you know, it's all about the little details, that is what makes these characters awesome and memorable.

I'm getting flashbacks of Countdown and Darkseid chilling on Mary Marvel's couch.

 

[THANOSRULES]

That's not really dumb, because that dialogue is fitting to the O' Grady character.

Thanos saying "You have made me mad Earthers... bla bla bla... I am deaths warrior!" That's appaling. Thanos would find the term "warrior" demeaning. He'd refer to himself as "Death's lover and consort" or something. And he threaten to "relinquish you Terrans from your mortal coils in reverence to m'lady Death" or some such.

I guess you could say that is being nit picky, but you know, it's all about the little details, that is what makes these characters awesome and memorable.

I didn't have any big problems with the Thanos speak..especially the beginning stuff...it didnt seem like a real aberration of enough consequence to gripe. I agree with you that Thanos "probably" would use better and poignant diction in his re-intro splash page...but whatever.

What was a dumber part in the book was when Cap had no clue who the Zodiac was...I mean Avengers have fought them several times and they've been around (at least the general concept) for ages...I started to wonder if Assembled was in continuity at that point..which i guess it is.

Perhaps I am just blinded by Bags art, its just so damn adequate and clean I always love it.

I think bendis has been a little better lately though, he's actually making Protector interesting..and dealing with some cosmic stuff, now Thanos and GOTG...yeah he'll probably screw it up, but I'm gonna give it a chance.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I took Cap's confusion to mean that he didn't know who this Zodiac was, given that Bendis created them specifically for this series. But again, Bendis does all right with Thor, so I've been a bit more forgiving with him lately.

I can't say I'm too impressed with the Protector stuff, though. If the only way Bendis could make him interesting is to turn him into an outright villain, that's not really a good sign.

 

[Harlekin]

I'm getting flashbacks of Countdown and Darkseid chilling on Mary Marvel's couch.

Hey, there's nothing wrong with D'seid chilling on a couch.

 

[THANOSRULES]

Protecter/Marvel Boy has been a crappy job by Bendis.

The original Marvel Boy was pretty much a crazy villian..then Bendis kinda took him from what he was and somewhat gradually changed him into something way different, he's been so lame for the past year or so.

The thing that clearly kills me was Marvel Boy was not a 616 story...the hulk and characters in that mini were clearly different and the world was too.

This was ignored.

Now, Bendis seems to have clearly ignored that even Marvel Boy was from a Kree Race in a still different Alternate Reality...which was yet again clearly not the 616 Kree or the supreme intelligence.

I was interested in him in these current issues, but still as a whole ...not a good job.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

There was a reference about Protector coming from an alternate universe during AvX, though. Granted, it was in Secret Avengers, which Bendis doesn't write...

 

[JewishHobbit]

Protector's being in the current 616 post-mini began prior to Bendis with whoever wrote Civil War: Young Avengers & Runaways.

And if memory serves I'm pretty sure Bendis referenced him being from an alternate universe in the Avengers ongoing title, maybe even Dark Avengers. I can't recall where but I think I read it in there.

 

[THANOSRULES]

He also doesnt seem to have the same powers..he could harden his hair , poison people and control everything in his body, he had cockroach spliced DNA and a cool bracer that was advanced tech...now he just seems like a regular Kree with some modest powers who uses tech.

 

[JewishHobbit]

He used those powers a few times over the past year or two but I don't think Bendis ever wrote them.

Honestly, Protector really is a character that Bendis has just phoned in. Part of the reason I'm not a fan of his current Avengers run.

 

[THANOSRULES]

Who brought him out of hiatus? was it Ellis in T-bolts?

 

[Watchman]

Who brought him out of hiatus? was it Ellis in T-bolts?

No, Ellis would have done something interesting with him. I think it was Zeb Wells who wrote the Civil War tie-ins but it was Bendis who got rid of his personality.

 

[Harlekin]

What did people not like about The Thanos Imperative? I just read it, thought it was pretty good. Kept a good pace, nice action, high stakes.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I wasn't a fan of Sepulveda's art, for starters. Aside from that, it just felt weird to me. It wasn't a bad story, it was just not that interesting to me. I would've liked to see Rich leading the Nova Corps into battle, for one thing, or at least working alongside the Guardians rather than just having him do his own thing. It seemed like a great opportunity to make the whole cosmic cast they'd built up for the past few years into one big ensemble for the event, sort of like seeing the Avengers and the X-Men team up in classic crossovers of old, but they kept the casts pretty segregated into their own subplots. Also, the evil Avengers concept wore thin pretty quickly. I would've liked to see a villain more firmly related to the cosmic stuff in general or the cosmic characters in particular. Throw in some Cancerverse Guardians or a Cancerverse Rhomann Dey or something, at least; I mean, even War of Kings turned the non-cosmic Inhumans and Vulcan into more fitting cosmic villains by placing them on the thrones of the Kree and Shi'ar Empires, respectively. Oh, and turning Thanos into a rage-monster was about as lame as you could possibly get with Thanos. Being a badass mastermind is a big part of his personality and appeal.

 

[NDX]

My friend recently read The Thanos Imperative and now plans on going back through the modern Marvel Cosmic catalog. I was going to lend him Annihilation, but he's be moving to Florida soon. Can't take that chance.

As for me, I enjoyed for the popcorn style flick the story was. It wasn't brilliant, but it wasn't dull, either. It was like Michael Bay directed it. It was a fine closeout for the Cosmic line, if you ask me, after the lackluster Realm of Kings (and that pointless Son of Hulk mini I'm forced to own due to the HC).

 

[The Morningstar]

I can sorta understand Thanos being a bit more... well, ragey in Imperative. After finally getting to be with Death he was brought back to life. Then when he died again, he found out he was barred and was immediately resurrected.

 

[Harlekin]

Yeah, I particularly liked the interactions with Thanos, although Drax got shafted at one point. I agree though that a more unified cast would've been nice, but all in all I thought it was a decent event. What cosmic needs to be and what I fear Bendis won't be able to do.