guitarsingerguy's music gear thread!

[Danalys]

i've got a tanglewood. electro acoustic. sounds alright to me but then i only play it acoustically. and then on top of that you need to choose strings. i think i had to cut the bridge abit because it wasn't working just right. but yeah i can't afford to go all out on music equipment, while still maintaining other intrests. i'd really like to get into effects and stuff but the acostic property on top of that might annoy me and i figure getting a pure electric would be a waste of money.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

So use them for your acoustic. Play around. Go get a chorus pedal.

 

[Danalys]

i could do with a decent mic to record stuff aswell. so that cheap one bono uses might be a good idea if i knew what it was. might google search. altho i always feel different performing on tape(i don't actually use tape) for some reason and it throws me off. but if i just kept at it i guess i'd eventually get something that i'd be happy with. dammit then i'd have to go through the whole song writting thing again. writing with in my constraints. i do want to tho. it's the whole artistic graft suffering for your art thing all over again.

what would i need other than the chorus pedal?

 

[guitarsingerguy]

A stage mic is completely different then a recording mic. I feel like a broken record saying this. If you're going to record you need to get a particular mic for it. What Bono uses on stage won't cut it. Usually, chorus is all you see on acoustics, but use whatever you want. Skys the limit.

 

[Danalys]

what if i want that live sound on record. baring in mind i can afford a stadium or banks of massive amps. going for the small venue feel.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

Vocal mic = recordings sound like ****. You can get the live sound in mixdown, but not from a mic.

 

[maxwell's demon]

anyone have that Sony field recorder with the dual built-in mics and mic preamp? It's too expensive for me but it looks nice.

EDIT: PCM-D1 portable recorder. that's the name.
http://shopandprice.com/App/Products/ProductDescription.aspx?ID=644

 

[guitarsingerguy]

I don't know how I feel about the price. You could easily get a Roland CD-2 or a Boss BR600 for $699. That would leave enough cash to buy one hell of a recording mic.

 

[Danalys]

so what are the draw backs of condenser microphones.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

so what are the draw backs of condenser microphones.

Condenser mics are generally what you record with. I HATE them for vocals because they're far too hot unless you're on a HUGE stage. You run into nothing but feedback. Condensers are made to catch a much broader frequency range which is why it lends itself to recording. They show more mistakes though.

 

[Danalys]

mistakes are part of the art i want mine to be shown. and i'll record with out hearing my self so that will be nice.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

mistakes are part of the art i want mine to be shown. and i'll record with out hearing my self so that will be nice.

Hey man go ahead. I'm just here to help. I'm just telling you expect piss poor quality. You don't get the "raw live" sound from a bad recording, but let me know how it goes.

 

[Danalys]

well the thing is i can't get feed back if i don't have the sound on. so then i just have to run through time and time again in a quiet place. or a place where the background noise is part of the ambiance. it's like practicing on record. to capture what ever moment comes. rather than try to recreate it later.

 

[Danalys]

and if i record it could i run it through an amp again later and record that at a later date with what ever effects. any way to record pure guitar output?

 

[guitarsingerguy]

You NEVER record vocals and guitar work at the same time, nor do you run your vocals through an amp when recording them. You need something that is going to allow you to hear yourself but not be rerecorded from whatever you're using to record with.

 

[Danalys]

i think your geting confused when i switch tracks. i'm thinking of one way to record guitar and one to record vocals seperately. recording the guitar in both acoustic and electric simultaniously.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

i think your geting confused when i switch tracks. i'm thinking of one way to record guitar and one to record vocals seperately. recording the guitar in both acoustic and electric simultaniously.

Explain "in both acoustic and electric simultaneously".

 

[Danalys]

i record the acoustic however that's ment to be while the electrical output of the picups is recorded silently. i judge the electrical from the acoustic and from listening later. i can then rerecord the electric later using a normal electrical recording setup, if and when the opertunity arises. that's if the tech is there to do so. it's just a way of giving my self options later to try different things with the same performance.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

You have an acoustic/electric right? You're not going to find that much of a difference. An acoustic/electric sounds like an acoustic regardless of how you record it. A mic is always gonna sound better, but why bother with the ease of the pickup. You aren't going to make an acoustic sound like an electric. Also plugging an acoustic with a pickup into a normal electric rig is bad. You're slowly damaging your amp. Run it through a PA, keyboard amp, or amp made specifically for your acoustic.

 

[Danalys]

see noone ever tell you this stuff. but i'd like to compare the two methods myself perhaps with modification of the pick up output before it goes to an amp. it's signal processing stuff so i know some people i could talk about that with from a pure electrical engineering point of view.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

Yeah, just don't do it for long periods of time. It's all about frequency ranges. Basically, every amp is "voiced" for a particular instrument. All that means is that every amp is crafted with a particular frequency range in mind. Most instruments use absolute different ranges. Voice, acoustic, and keyboard all all roughly the same. Electric guitar is completely different.

 

[Danalys]

so why are the pick ups on electro acoustics different to electric pick ups?

 

[guitarsingerguy]

so why are the pick ups on electro acoustics different to electric pick ups?

Same. You know where your pickup is on your acoustic right? It's probably under the bridge. It's called a piezo. Basically it picks up the vibration of your guitar and converts it into an electronic signal. Now naturally your acoustic guitar produces, if I remember correctly, a lower frequency band then an electric. Therefore your pickup on your acoustic is optimized for those frequencies. Standard electric guitar pickups don't work the same becuase there isn't enough magnetic pull on the bronze strings of an acoustic.

 

[Danalys]

and with electric strings the pick ups wouldn't be designed for that frequency? okay got it. shame there isn't a multipurpose solution. that would probably take composite materials and that would be a massive undertaking to discover. i don't like tying things down to a range that's fixed really. but hey what are you gonna do.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

There are several guitars out there that are hybrids. Fender makes a Power Tele with a piezo, Parker guitars does as well. There are a bunch of them out there, but you can either buy something that does a few things ok or something that does one thing really good. It's a trade off.