'H2', Rob Zombie's sequel to 'Halloween'

[Heretic]

Then that is what you saw if you believe that you did. Movie in the eye of the beholder.

So, let me get thsi straight...if the film makers came out today and said that The Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions never happened, and that the REAL sequel to The Matrix was coming out next summer...you would accept that???

It has nothing to do with the eye of the beholder...it is a fact that these movies exist and at the time of release were presented as official parts of the story of Michael Myers.

 

[Showtime]

Well, for me, I like have all the films in the same timeline. That's my choice and that's how I see the original series. It also gives it more depth for H20, having to put it together what Laurie REALLY did after Halloween 2. Makes it more interesting, that little underlining action for Jamie being left behind. Yeah, it changes Lauries character and arc a whole lot, because she's not so sympothedic if it's in that timeline, and really, that's kinda how I like it. It's darker and more meaningful.

And I don't like alternate time lines in films, unless of course it worked hard into the plot like Star Trek was...and Halloween 4-6/H20 had nothing of a straight forward explaination like ST.

That is understandable, I like to look at them as two different timelines, but I can see both sides of it. It reminds me of Superman Returns in a way, how that fits into the Donnerverse timeline.

 

[ABleedingCorpse]

That would piss a whole lot of people off if the REAL sequal to The Matrix was coming out next summer. Kinda makes you feel like "why'd I even bother watching those films and get into the story if it was only going to change"

 

[Marx]

So, let me get thsi straight...if the film makers came out today and said that The Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions never happened, and that the REAL sequel to The Matrix was coming out next summer...you would accept that???

It has nothing to do with the eye of the beholder...it is a fact that these movies exist and at the time of release were presented as official parts of the story of Michael Myers.

Yes it does. People are free to view these movies however they want. It isn't about whether they exist or not, it is about how you choose to view them.

 

[Joker'sHenchman]

If I may be so bold as to throw in my two cents:

These continuity arguments are senseless because the reason why these debates even exist is because there are really 4 continuities. 4 continuities based on the 4 sets of writers for the movies.
Contin. 1: Debra Hill and John Carpenter - Halloween I and II
Contin. 2: Halloween III, IV and V - Various writers
Contin. 3 - Halloween VI and H20 - Malak Akkad
Contin. 4 - Halloween and Halloween H2 - Rob Zombie.

So, you see, it's really all about who is writing the movie. I know this is the simple answer and you guys are really debating the "lore" of the film, but honestly, this is the reason the films are all a mess. The franchise is a dirty ****e whose slept with too many writers...

Let the onslaught of insults begin my way.

 

[ABleedingCorpse]

You could do that with the Friday remake and really say...all the sequals NEVER happened and that the reboot/remake was the REAL sequal to the original Friday the 13th.

 

[Showtime]

So, let me get thsi straight...if the film makers came out today and said that The Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions never happened, and that the REAL sequel to The Matrix was coming out next summer...you would accept that???

It has nothing to do with the eye of the beholder...it is a fact that these movies exist and at the time of release were presented as official parts of the story of Michael Myers.

I don't really care either way to be honest. I don't remember H20 every being marketed as "THE REAL SEQUEL". They choose to erase previous continuity, which means H4, H5, and H6. I just look at it as two different timelines, with what if stories branching off in two different directions. I'm don't really think it is a big deal either way. You can see the films any way you'd like to.

 

[Darkness Falls]

That would piss a whole lot of people off if the REAL sequal to The Matrix was coming out next summer. Kinda makes you feel like "why'd I even bother watching those films and get into the story if it was only going to change"

lol that sounds like that fan fiction script for the a sequal to matrix revolutions

where it turned out the matrix they destroyed was matrix A - and everything had been copied to matrix B

 

[Fresh Prince]

Even if they did follow 4, 5, and 6, I don't understand. Laurie in the first film clearly likes kids, and even baby sits and is a good and caring person. Ten years later she has a child, fakes her death and leaves her child behind? Is that out of character or what? Another reason why Jaime wasn't needed.

Thats why they had H20 ignore events from 4-6.

I thought 4-6 also ignored stuff from 1 and 2.

 

[Marx]

If I may be so bold as to throw in my two cents:

These continuity arguments are senseless because the reason why these debates even exist is because there are really 4 continuities. 4 continuities based on the 4 sets of writers for the movies.
Contin. 1: Debra Hill and John Carpenter - Halloween I and II
Contin. 2: Halloween III, IV and V - Various writers
Contin. 3 - Halloween VI and H20 - Malak Akkad
Contin. 4 - Halloween and Halloween H2 - Rob Zombie.

So, you see, it's really all about who is writing the movie. I know this is the simple answer and you guys are really debating the "lore" of the film, but honestly, this is the reason the films are all a mess. The franchise is a dirty ****e whose slept with too many writers...

Let the onslaught of insults begin my way.

 

[ABleedingCorpse]

If I may be so bold as to throw in my two cents:

These continuity arguments are senseless because the reason why these debates even exist is because there are really 4 continuities. 4 continuities based on the 4 sets of writers for the movies.
Contin. 1: Debra Hill and John Carpenter - Halloween I and II
Contin. 2: Halloween III, IV and V - Various writers
Contin. 3 - Halloween VI and H20 - Malak Akkad
Contin. 4 - Halloween and Halloween H2 - Rob Zombie.

So, you see, it's really all about who is writing the movie. I know this is the simple answer and you guys are really debating the "lore" of the film, but honestly, this is the reason the films are all a mess. The franchise is a dirty ****e whose slept with too many writers...

Let the onslaught of insults begin my way.

3 would have to go into the first continuity section. Involvement. Guilty by association.

 

[Marx]

Thats why they had H20 ignore events from 4-6.

I thought 4-6 also ignored stuff from 1 and 2.

4-6 continue from 1 and 2. They say that Jamie is the daughter of Laurie.

H2O ignores 4-6.

 

[Showtime]

You could do that with the Friday remake and really say...all the sequals NEVER happened and that the reboot/remake was the REAL sequal to the original Friday the 13th.

Exactly, because that is how you, the individual viewer has chose to view them. Which is fine.

 

[Fresh Prince]

Anyone remember the original TCM films? How after the second, the next sequels each tried to be the REAL sequal to the original and people hated it because it not only didn't make sense, but insulted to viewer by not telling them what the hell was up.

H20 is kinda like that for me. I love teh film itself, but for me personaly, it's in the same timeline as 4-6.

Not really. It ignroes everything from parts 4-6, and is a sequel to part 2. It even says 20 years later.

 

[The Apatow Crew]

It was all a dream, Everything in every sequel was a dream.

 

[Fresh Prince]

4-6 continue from 3. They say that Jamie is the daughter of Laurie.

H2O ignores 4-6.

I knew H20 ignored stuff from 4-6.

But also thought 4-6 ignored from parts 1 and 2, but know you told me i understand.

 

[ABleedingCorpse]

Thats why they had H20 ignore events from 4-6.

I thought 4-6 also ignored stuff from 1 and 2.

Yeah. Michael and Loomis lived, on top of that Michael could see even though he was shot twice in the eyes and blinded, and Michael's skin really didn't look so burnt as it should have been for a man who was completely on fire for what had to have been no less than 10 minutes (of course, that techincal talk there)

 

[Fresh Prince]

You could do that with the Friday remake and really say...all the sequals NEVER happened and that the reboot/remake was the REAL sequal to the original Friday the 13th.

Like the remake was a sequel from part 4, and parts 5-10 never existed.

Cannot happen since they showed Jason mom getting killed in the beginning of the movie and in a different way too.

 

[Joker'sHenchman]

Does anyone have or know if the Halloween H2 script is available? Clearly, from the sounds of it, I shouldn't waste my money, but I would like to know exactly what happens. I tried watching it online (SHH! Should I not be saying that here?) and the quality was really poor... Video quality, that is, not movie content... that I could tell.

 

[Fresh Prince]

Yeah. Michael and Loomis lived, on top of that Michael could see even though he was shot twice in the eyes and blinded, and Michael's skin really didn't look so burnt as it should have been for a man who was completely on fire for what had to have been no less than 10 minutes (of course, that techincal talk there)

Also Micheal vody taking to the hospital after it got supposedly burned down in the hospital at the end of the second.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Even if they did follow 4, 5, and 6, I don't understand. Laurie in the first film clearly likes kids, and even baby sits and is a good and caring person. Ten years later she has a child, fakes her death and leaves her child behind?

Which is all them ore reason why 4,5, and 6, didn't happen in in H20's universe.

 

[The Apatow Crew]

You could do that with the Friday remake and really say...all the sequals NEVER happened and that the reboot/remake was the REAL sequal to the original Friday the 13th.

Yes but alot was made clear those events happen in that film. from the flashback scene at the start to the speech the kid gives, up until the old woman says the people of camp crystal just want to be left alone, he just wants to be left alone.

 

[Showtime]

So what are they going to do for Halloween 3D, erase Busta Rhymes from existence.

 

[ABleedingCorpse]

Like the remake was a sequel from part 4, and parts 5-10 never existed.

Cannot happen since they showed Jason mom getting killed in the beginning of the movie and in a different way too.

??Wha? Did Jason's mother not get her head cut off? By a girl? At a camp? Details aren't that important appearently, which is why we're having this long discussion about stuff not related to directly to RZH2

 

[Marx]

Does anyone have or know if the Halloween H2 script is available? Clearly, from the sounds of it, I shouldn't waste my money, but I would like to know exactly what happens. I tried watching it online (SHH! Should I not be saying that here?) and the quality was really poor... Video quality, that is, not movie content... that I could tell.

If you enjoyed the first one, check this one out...but you should know that this one is far more graphic and the story is all over the place. If you read back through the spoilers, everything that happens in the movie has pretty much been discussed in here.