'H2', Rob Zombie's sequel to 'Halloween'

[Johnny Drama]

Michael Myers never got the "In space" treatment, that saddens me...

 

[ABleedingCorpse]

Michael Myers never got the "In space" treatment, that saddens me...

Don't ever....ever....EVER....bring that THOUGHT into this forum again.

 

[Johnny Drama]

Don't ever....ever....EVER....bring that THOUGHT into this forum again.

Oh come on, just imagine how brilliantly awful would that be! t:

 

[ABleedingCorpse]

One thing I know that's already improved Zombie's H2 is the actual Halloween element. October 31st, Halloween, costumes, celebrations, trick or treating and maybe *crosses fingers* bobbing for apples!

That was lacking soo much from the remake (excluding the begining). But it appears Zombie wants you to know it's Halloween in this one and there's bound to be some good stuff happening involving that atmospher.

 

[ABleedingCorpse]

Oh come on, just imagine how brilliantly awful would that be! t:

No. I will never entertain such a horrible and possibly suicidal thought as 'Michael in Space'.

 

[The Joker]

Does anybody thing Zombie's effort was good at least ?

Yes. But I'm rather luke warm about the result.

I don't need Michael Myers to be explained in such in depth detail. It takes away from the whole mysterious element that makes him so scary. I know he was trying to add depth to Michael, but I really think he's one of those characters who works better without an in depth explanation.

I really disliked the trio of girls. I thought their acting was awful, and their dialogue was woeful. Compton upped her game though when Michael began to terrorize her. I hope she's alot better in the sequal, because Laurie Strode is one of my fav Halloween characters.

Malcolm McDowell was sheer class as Loomis from start to finish.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Yes. But I'm rather luke warm about the result.

I don't need Michael Myers to be explained in such in depth detail. It takes away from the whole mysterious element that makes him so scary. I know he was trying to add depth to Michael, but I really think he's one of those characters who works better without an in depth explanation.

I really disliked the trio of girls. I thought their acting was awful, and their dialogue was woeful. Compton upped her game though when Michael began to terrorize her. I hope she's alot better in the sequal, because Laurie Strode is one of my fav Halloween characters.

Malcolm McDowell was sheer class as Loomis from start to finish.

These are all pretty much my thoughts to a tee. I really hated seeing a somewhat classic horror character reduced to "poor white trash"...

That said, Rob's version still has it's merits.

I'm on board for the sequel. He was just filming it here in my area last week, but i found out too late and missed it...

 

[Nivek]

Does anybody thing Zombie's effort was good at least ?

I thought it kicked ass and made Michael Myers a viable threat again. I hate people bringing up the white trash crap.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

I thought it kicked ass and made Michael Myers a viable threat again. I hate people bringing up the white trash crap.

i think it's a valid criticism...i mean; i have YET to see a single reason why Rob needed to explore that route in the film.... It fuels the misconception that only poor people are prone to rage and violence...And the family's dialogue, ESPECIALLY in the opening scene, was just cliched nonsense imo....

Other than that, there were some good moments. Im hopeful Rob will continue to grow as a film maker with the next installment.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

The Meyer's film being poor at the beginning of the film was...different, but it worked for Zombie's interpretation. Michael became psychotic in the film for reasons we don't know (I don't think). Being poor really didn't boost that, if you ask me.

 

[Nightmare]

I can see it now, Laurie becomes an astronaut in 20 years, she's on the moon. Somehow Myers comes out of a coma somehow sneaks on the shuttle, and we got "Halloween in Space"

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ I'm going to have nightmares thinking about that tonight.

 

[Nivek]

i think it's a valid criticism...i mean; i have YET to see a single reason why Rob needed to explore that route in the film.... It fuels the misconception that only poor people are prone to rage and violence...And the family's dialogue, ESPECIALLY in the opening scene, was just cliched nonsense imo....

I can assure you through life experience that type of dialogue is not that big of a cliche, it's pretty telling for the time (early 80's). Not everyone here grew up in picket fence suburbia.

 

[Peyton Westlake]

I thought it kicked ass and made Michael Myers a viable threat again. I hate people bringing up the white trash crap.

I didnt mind the 'white trash' but it seemed all his movies are somehow laced with that.

 

[The Original Bamfer]

I liked Zombie's enough. It's biggest problem, for me, lies in the fact that the decent part of the film (present day Haddonfield) was shafted to make room for a painstakingly long and unnecessary origin story which nearly humanized the soulless monster that is The Shape.

 

[Peyton Westlake]

I liked Zombie's enough. It's biggest problem, for me, lies in the fact that the decent part of the film (present day Haddonfield) was shafted to make room for a painstakingly long and unnecessary origin story which nearly humanized the soulless monster that is The Shape.

My problem was nothing to do with 'white trash' origin......but how he seemed to want you to feel sorry for Michael for becoming what he was.

 

[ABleedingCorpse]

It worked...to a degree, you may want to feel sorry for Michael and it's deserved to feel sorry for him...at the same time fearing what he is all together. It's like feeling sorry for a miss treated rabid dog. You want to help, but then again...run like hell from it because it's going to give you rabies if it bites you.

And it's still completely mysterious as to what Michael's intentions are with Laurie. In the first one, we didn't know she was his sister (until the sequal), so the whole notion of the same meaning the remake had with the original is invalid. That's what changes things up a little bit. In Zombie's film, we have these two characters who are bound from the start and it's never assumed he's trying to kill her or just have some in his life not judge him. Baby Laurie never judged him, and neither did his mother (she didn't show it to Michael anyways..but she off'd herself).

I don't get the anger towards the 'white trash' hate. I honestly don't think the 'poor trash' element had anything to do with Michael's outcome. It was strickly about the way he was treated, not because he didn't get that bike he wanted, or the Atari or get to go to DisneyLand because he was poor. It was about 'Why the hell is this guy being a dick? Why is his big sis a *****? Why do the kids pick on him?'. And seeing as how many of us don't want to admit it, deep down, mostly everyone here can relate a little to Michael.

You feel sorry for him, and then again you're scared to death also. Either way, Michael just the untamed person who doesn't exist anymore....nobody really knows him...just that...he's crazy and out for blood.

 

[Marx]

Don't ever....ever....EVER....bring that THOUGHT into this forum again.

 

[ABleedingCorpse]

I can see it now, Laurie becomes an astronaut in 20 years, she's on the moon. Somehow Myers comes out of a coma somehow sneaks on the shuttle, and we got "Halloween in Space"

Laurie has psychological problems....NASA would never deal with her now. End of story. Never going to happen.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Either way, Michael just the untamed person who doesn't exist anymore....nobody really knows him...just that...he's crazy and out for blood.

Yup, exactly.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

I can assure you through life experience that type of dialogue is not that big of a cliche, it's pretty telling for the time (early 80's). Not everyone here grew up in picket fence suburbia.

And not everyone that grows up poor becomes a serial killer. i can assure you THAT through life expierience.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

I didnt mind the 'white trash' but it seemed all his movies are somehow laced with that.

Agreed.

 

[Jackasscoley15]

I'm starting to like the 'Michael in Space' idea more than the concept of a second Zomboween. God help us all.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Laurie has psychological problems....NASA would never deal with her now. End of story. Never going to happen.

I agree!

 

[ABleedingCorpse]

I'm starting to like the 'Michael in Space' idea more than the concept of a second Zomboween. God help us all.