'H2', Rob Zombie's sequel to 'Halloween'

[Darkness Falls]

And let me just make one thing clear. I have no problem with people not liking the film if they've actually seen it. But to just say "oh I heard someone say" or "I read something online" is I honestly don't know what to say about on here......

But that's just how it is though.

i have to agree with you there, that is INCREDIBLY annoying

 

[DACrowe]

Actually, we end up where the original series tried and utterly failed to take us.

Perhaps, but I suspect Uncle Mikey will be back in H3D, just minus Loomis and Zombie. I don't know what they are going to do with Laurie but probably H5 her a la Jamie, most likely.

 

[Matt Mortem]

This thread reminds me of the Terminator:Salvation thread after that movie came out. Things are gettin' pretty scary round these parts

 

[ABleedingCorpse]

Well another change I noticed is originaly this was set TWO YEARS from the first and not the one.

And it's not that Annie and Laurie hated each other, but they got on each others nerves at one point, which lead into Laurie's freakout dream of her as Michael killing. That felt so out of place to me with no lead up to it. She's just sooo angry, yet we don't get a reason as to why.

 

[ABleedingCorpse]

Ah..the scene actually is of Laurie complaining to Annie about her problems and Annie telling her she wasn't the only person attacked and has scars. THAT'S WHATS MISSING and why Laurie's freakout scene was so out of place to me.

 

[bullets]

Some of the cut stuff sounds good . I don't want to hear Myers talk though. The hanging a woman from a tree would of been a cool kill . The idea of Annie and Laurie hating each other was definately unecessary.


As for this movie using elements of 4-6 without the thorn aspect , it makes sense.

 

[Dark Victory]

Also, if Horatio was here to judge the box office numbers...

"It looks like Halloween..."

*puts on glasses*

"...just reached it's Final Destination..."


YYYYYYYYYYEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH.

t:t:t:

 

[mclay18]

I really don't get why die-hard Friday the 13th fans hate the 2009 remake. The series was bottom of the barrel to begin with (a ripoff of "Halloween") and yet fans are putting that down because some stuff changed in the remake. Honestly, it retained the formula, same villain and redid it better and with a bigger budget.

But RZ's Halloween movies are just inexcusable. The original 1978 movie was great and RZ's mangling of the franchise (regardless if you like/hate the numerous sequels) is just unforgiveable. At least Platinum Dunes know how to make halfway decent movies, and if the Halloween franchise was in New Line/WB and PD's hands rather than the Weinsteins it would've fared somewhat better.

I'm hoping 2010 will bring a clean slate for the horror genre. Bring on that Nightmare on Elm Street remake and a cleaner-shot, Zombie-less H3.

 

[The Apatow Crew]

Well another change I noticed is originaly this was set TWO YEARS from the first and not the one.

And it's not that Annie and Laurie hated each other, but they got on each others nerves at one point, which lead into Laurie's freakout dream of her as Michael killing. That felt so out of place to me with no lead up to it. She's just sooo angry, yet we don't get a reason as to why.

The anger between the two is shown best in the "leaked" trailer. With Annie saying you're not the only one scared and pushes up her hair a and shows a scar on her forehead.

 

[Nightmare]

Thanks to our boy BC and his incredible hawk eyes for catching an article over at the LA Times that will make Michael Myers fans very happy. Apparently, Rob Zombie hasn't put an end to franchise as the Weinstein brothers are already planning a return to Haddonfield in 2010 with Halloween 3D. While Halloween II only opened at the #3 spot this weekend, had it not started a fist fight with The Final Destination, it would have easily taken the top spot and make over $30m. The Weinsteins knows this and are quickly making plans for a third film. Read on for the skinny and then talk about who you'd like to see take the reigns. Who could make Myers even better?

From the LA Times:

""Halloween II" may not have won the box office this weekend, but Weinstein Co. is taking a lesson from the movie that did as it prepares a sequel for next summer.

The independent studio's co-Chairman Bob Weinstein said today that the 3-D sequel, titled, appropriately enough, "Halloween 3D," is in development.

The investment it takes to shoot movies in digital 3-D has proved particularly lucrative for horror films. For "The Final Destination," this weekend's No. 1 movie, theaters with at least one 3-D screen earned 3.25 times as much as those that showed the movie in 2-D only, according to distributor Warner Bros. That's substantially higher than for other recent releases. The equivalent 3-D multiple for last month's "G-Force," for instance, was only 1.7 on its first weekend. For July's "Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs" it was 1.4 andm for June's "Up" it was 2.2. January horror flick "My Bloody Valentine" earned 6.4 times as much from 3-D theaters as it did from 2-D on its opening weekend.

Weinstein said Rob Zombie, who directed "Halloween II" and 2007's reboot of the 31-year-old horror series, won't return for "Halloween 3-D." He said the studio is in negotiations with a new director, whom he declined to name, who has experience in horror and has a "different take" on the franchise.

Wtf in theatres by summer of 2010? :facepalm

 

[DACrowe]

I really don't get why die-hard Friday the 13th fans hate the 2009 remake. The series was bottom of the barrel to begin with (a ripoff of "Halloween") and yet fans are putting that down because some stuff changed in the remake. Honestly, it retained the formula, same villain and redid it better and with a bigger budget.

But RZ's Halloween movies are just inexcusable. The original 1978 movie was great and RZ's mangling of the franchise (regardless if you like/hate the numerous sequels) is just unforgiveable. At least Platinum Dunes know how to make halfway decent movies, and if the Halloween franchise was in New Line/WB and PD's hands rather than the Weinsteins it would've fared somewhat better.

I'm hoping 2010 will bring a clean slate for the horror genre. Bring on that Nightmare on Elm Street remake and a cleaner-shot, Zombie-less H3.

Well I never liked FT13 which may explain why I hated the remake even more. The originals were so bad they were mildly entertaining. The bigger budget just showed competency for a stupid movie to be made.

Which may be why I liked Zombie's first Halloween. While Carpenter's is surely better, the faceless unstoppable monster had been done to death in the countless Michael Myers sequels and FT13 and all the knockoffs in between. So, going a psychological route and giving Michael an interesting character that played very well off of a very well developed Dr. Loomis made for an interesting movie. The ending had a touch of tragedy or at least pathos. But the sequel was just a mess. The more I think about it, a movie just about the Brackett family post-Halloween would have been pretty interesting. Not a good horror movie, but it would have been a much better movie than what we got.

 

[mclay18]

@ Nightmare:

I wouldn't be surprised if the Weinsteins just dust off a rejected Halloween 2 script, have a writer retool it and then get a director on board. It's not hard, and horror films have a shorter production schedule than other pics.

 

[Darkness Falls]

by summer 2010 ? why are they going to rush it ?

 

[deathshead2]

I can't stand how everything was so dark in this movie, and how Zombie used some of the worst camera work I've seen in theaters.

 

[bullets]

I really don't get why die-hard Friday the 13th fans hate the 2009 remake. The series was bottom of the barrel to begin with (a ripoff of "Halloween") and yet fans are putting that down because some stuff changed in the remake. Honestly, it retained the formula, same villain and redid it better and with a bigger budget.

Seriously they did right by that character with the remake. There was some stuff that could be disliked but overall it was a much needed improvement.

The worst level Myers had attained was the film with Busta Rymes but that wasn't too terrible.
I do like Zombie and his films but I want to get back to the original formula.

 

[deathshead2]

by summer 2010 ? why are they going to rush it ?

They really need the money.

 

[TheWrathOfGod]

MORE MONEY TO BE MADE!!!

 

[Nightmare]

by summer 2010 ? why are they going to rush it ?

My Exact question. But Im all for another reboot as long as Rob Zombie, his annoying wife and the white horse arent anywhere near it.

 

[The Apatow Crew]

Wtf in theatres by summer of 2010? :facepalm

I know exactly. Like I said before doesn't 3D take even longer then shooting a regular film?

If anyone wants to complain about something, they can complain about this! They have no story, no director and as of right now no actors and they want it out by summer 2010?

So what are they gonna do just grab a regular video camera, a guy in a Micheal Myers Mask with a knife chasing people down a regular street?

If the final destination wasn't number 1 this week, I can guarantee you the next one wouldn't be in 3 d. and they have to put it out there that this is a non rob zombie directed film I see.

 

[deathshead2]

I know exactly. Like I said before doesn't 3D take even longer then shooting a regular film?

If anyone wants to complain about something, they can complain about this! They have no story, no director and as of right now no actors and they want it out by summer 2010?

So what are they gonna do just grab a regular video camera, a guy in a Micheal Myers Mask with a knife chasing people down a regular street?

If the final destination wasn't number 1 this week, I can guarantee you the next one wouldn't be in 3 d. and they have to put it out there that this is a non rob zombie directed film I see.

This movie looks like it was shot with a regular video camera, so you sound on target.

 

[ABleedingCorpse]

It's not so hard to do. It may take a bit longer, but H2 was written and film and done with in about 8 months. . . ....yeah, about that....maybe they should just take it easy and not rush it.

 

[The Apatow Crew]

Seriously they did right by that character with the remake. There was some stuff that could be disliked but overall it was a much needed improvement.

The worst level Myers had attained was the film with Busta Rymes but that wasn't too terrible.
I do like Zombie and his films but I want to get back to the original formula.

original formula? What exactly is the original formula? John Carpenters Halloween. I kid I kid. No one get upset. I'm talking to you mods.

But seriously the films can only get more worse if their gonna continue with what happen in H2.

 

[ABleedingCorpse]

This movie looks like it was shot with a regular video camera, so you sound on target.

My biggest cripe about H2 was the SUPER 16 film stock used.

 

[The Apatow Crew]

It's not so hard to do. It may take a bit longer, but H2 was written and film and done with in about 8 months. . . ....yeah, about that....maybe they should just take it easy and not rush it.

And i'm sure whoever they get is gonna be some guy who has wrote a sci fi movie of the week and the director will be a first time director. And he is gonna crumble even more,. So the studio will have more hold over him and he will not disobey or question him on why they want the shoot cut short.

 

[The Apatow Crew]

My biggest cripe about H2 was the SUPER 16 film stock used.

RZ said he prefers shooting on 16 MM then 35 MM.