Halloween Remake Thread...

[The Joker_1000]

No, it lacked any thought at all. Like Jamie Lee Curtis leaving herself open for attack so many times. Really, it's a dumb film.

 

[Norman Bates]

No, it lacked any thought at all. Like Jamie Lee Curtis leaving herself open for attack so many times. Really, it's a dumb film.

Seems like you just don't like slasher films.

 

[The Joker_1000]

No, I do, I just don't like the old Halloween movie.

 

[Drizzle]

He never knew Laurie was his sister in the original.

I thought he did, which was why he brought Judith Myers' headstone to the house with him. While I love the original film, there are way more plotholes in it than the remake. Which is why, in some ways, the remake is better.

 

[Norman Bates]

I thought he did, which was why he brought Judith Myers' headstone to the house with him. While I love the original film, there are way more plotholes in it than the remake. Which is why, in some ways, the remake is better.

I only looked at that as Michael being nostalgic. His first murder, his sister Judith. After all, it was her murder that led him up to where he was at.

Carpenter never intended to even write a second film. So he just added the sibling relationship for an extra element to elevate the story. Laurie was originally just a random baby sitter in the wrong town at the wrong time.

 

[Eelectro 2]

i definetly like the remake alot better. i thought the original was ok before a remake was ever made and always felt it was kinda stale in most parts and poorly made in a way as well. i'm not even going to go into it but i never liked the whole car thing either.

 

[Arcturus]

I prefer the original Halloween, I think it's superior to the remake. However, I do love the remake, as well.

To each their own, I guess.

 

[The Joker_1000]

I just watched the ending of the original. I like both but I just like the remake a lot more than the original.

 

[The Joker_1000]

I only looked at that as Michael being nostalgic. His first murder, his sister Judith. After all, it was her murder that led him up to where he was at.

Carpenter never intended to even write a second film. So he just added the sibling relationship for an extra element to elevate the story. Laurie was originally just a random baby sitter in the wrong town at the wrong time.

That would've been fairly dumb to not make Laurie his sister. Her being a random baby sitter in the wrong town at the wrong time doesn't make sense since the whole movie basically revolves around Michael stalking her. I also like how in the remake Michael was out to reunite with Laurie rather than killing her. He killed his older sister for being a b**** but wanted to reunite with the one person he loved.

I have one question though: In the remake, after Laurie stabbed Michael, was he trying to kill her or still get her to understand that they were related?

 

[GoldGoblin]

I don't care for the remake,especially how Zombie makes Michael indestructable in the last half of the movie,I thought Zombie was trying to make Michael human where he can get hurt like everyone else.

 

[Red Mask]

That would've been fairly dumb to not make Laurie his sister. Her being a random baby sitter in the wrong town at the wrong time doesn't make sense since the whole movie basically revolves around Michael stalking her. I also like how in the remake Michael was out to reunite with Laurie rather than killing her. He killed his older sister for being a b**** but wanted to reunite with the one person he loved.

In a way, it can be more disturbing if it appeared random. It can inspire more fear that a crazed killer will attack anybody. The girl next door, a trucker in the can, a cop. And if that killer doesn't talk and has no face, then we see him/her as less than human.

 

[Red Mask]

I want to see Rob's uncut version. There are significant differences, especially in the ending with Dr. Lumus.

 

[Norman Bates]

That would've been fairly dumb to not make Laurie his sister. Her being a random baby sitter in the wrong town at the wrong time doesn't make sense since the whole movie basically revolves around Michael stalking her. I also like how in the remake Michael was out to reunite with Laurie rather than killing her. He killed his older sister for being a b**** but wanted to reunite with the one person he loved.

I have one question though: In the remake, after Laurie stabbed Michael, was he trying to kill her or still get her to understand that they were related?

It makes it 100x more terrifying that this entity, this raging, evil, killing machine has set his sights on this random girl for no apparent reason. Why? Because she's the innocence to his demonic rage. It dosen't need to make any sense. It works as is.

I hate how in the remake he was out to reunite with Laurie. To me, that made NO sense! I could see if his clear cut intention was to find her, and murder her from the get go but he's murdering everyone around her just for her to accept him when they finally meet up? His humanization really deteriorated the character for me. It wasn't Michael. It was some Rob Zombie rip-off with Halloween music slapped on. That scene with the picture and the unmasking made me want to kill myself. All the character attributes that made Michael the awesome character that he was were destroyed.

I don't think anybody knows the answer as to why he was after her. Honestly what was he going to do when he finally caught up to her? It's like he wanted to screw her or something. I wouldn't put it passed Zombie to add that either. The remake made about 1000x less sense than anything in the original.

 

[The Joker_1000]

It makes it 100x more terrifying that this entity, this raging, evil, killing machine has set his sights on this random girl for no apparent reason. Why? Because she's the innocence to his demonic rage. It dosen't need to make any sense. It works as is.

I hate how in the remake he was out to reunite with Laurie. To me, that made NO sense! I could see if his clear cut intention was to find her, and murder her from the get go but he's murdering everyone around her just for her to accept him when they finally meet up? His humanization really deteriorated the character for me. It wasn't Michael. It was some Rob Zombie rip-off with Halloween music slapped on. That scene with the picture and the unmasking made me want to kill myself. All the character attributes that made Michael the awesome character that he was were destroyed.

I don't think anybody knows the answer as to why he was after her. Honestly what was he going to do when he finally caught up to her? It's like he wanted to screw her or something. I wouldn't put it passed Zombie to add that either. The remake made about 1000x less sense than anything in the original.

You have everything backwards. I find it much better that he was out to reunite with his sister rather than to slaughter her. Zombie put more thought into his Halloween film & I will forever praise him for that. In the original, which I'm watching now, there was little thought. It was like the movie was put together for a quick dollar. Everything in the remake made sense & I seriously doubt Rob Zombie would have Michael doing his own sister, you guys make it like Rob Zombie ruined Halloween when, in fact, he improved upon the original product.

 

[The Joker_1000]

I don't care for the remake,especially how Zombie makes Michael indestructable in the last half of the movie,I thought Zombie was trying to make Michael human where he can get hurt like everyone else.

Michael was made far from indestructible, all he did was get stabbed & shot four times. Depending on where anyone is shot, it doesn't mean they'll die instantly. But I'm pretty sure that bullet to the head at the end killed him. Then again, it's been said there may be sequels.

 

[Joe Kerr]

You have everything backwards. I find it much better that he was out to reunite with his sister rather than to slaughter her. Zombie put more thought into his Halloween film & I will forever praise him for that. In the original, which I'm watching now, there was little thought. It was like the movie was put together for a quick dollar. Everything in the remake made sense & I seriously doubt Rob Zombie would have Michael doing his own sister, you guys make it like Rob Zombie ruined Halloween when, in fact, he improved upon the original product.

dude, you can't talk about your 'taste' as fact.

I find that the original was a simple story that WORKED. Rob zombie used the original for a template of 80-90 percent of his film, then he changed a few things... And he put MORE thought into it?

Rob Zombie Did NOT RUIN HALLOWEEN. but he didn't IMPROVE it. He just gave us another version to watch.

 

[cryptic name]

You have everything backwards. I find it much better that he was out to reunite with his sister rather than to slaughter her. Zombie put more thought into his Halloween film & I will forever praise him for that. In the original, which I'm watching now, there was little thought. It was like the movie was put together for a quick dollar. Everything in the remake made sense & I seriously doubt Rob Zombie would have Michael doing his own sister, you guys make it like Rob Zombie ruined Halloween when, in fact, he improved upon the original product.

i wouldn't say he ruined it. his movie just isn't as good as the orginal.

 

[cryptic name]

Yeah, okay.

Anyway, I watched the original Halloween movie today & it's downright horrible, there were so many things left unexplained like how he knew how to drive, where he got the mask & how the hell he knew Laurie was actually his sister. I only watched this movie to see how it different it was & it's crap.

he stole the mask from the store he broke into.
"all he took was some rope, a halloween mask, and a couple knives."

and laurie wasn't meant to be his sister in the first flick.

 

[The Joker_1000]

No stuff, smart guy. And I know how he got the mask but the way he got it in the remake was better, especially since we got to see the mask at the beginning & not close to the end.

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

dude, you can't talk about your 'taste' as fact.

I find that the original was a simple story that WORKED. Rob zombie used the original for a template of 80-90 percent of his film, then he changed a few things... And he put MORE thought into it?

Rob Zombie Did NOT RUIN HALLOWEEN. but he didn't IMPROVE it. He just gave us another version to watch.

Very true, The problem with remakes is they will always spawn this kind of debate, I've seen almost the exact same arguments when Planet Dunes remade Texas Chainsaw, The problem I have with this movie (and every other remake thats came out in the last decade) is that it's blatant cash in on an already successful film that was made 30 years ago.

 

[Joe Kerr]

No stuff, smart guy. And I know how he got the mask but the way he got it in the remake was better,

Again, this is a matter of opinion.

especially since we got to see the mask at the beginning & not close to the end.

Yeah, thats do to this old hollywood secret called "hiding the monster" why would anyone want to do that?

 

[The Joker_1000]

Screw hiding him, I want to see as much of the "monster" as possible.

 

[matthooper]

No stuff, smart guy. And I know how he got the mask but the way he got it in the remake was better, especially since we got to see the mask at the beginning & not close to the end.

If you knew how he got the mask, why did you ask in your post how he got the mask? Your "points" as to your plot holes were addressed. You asked about the mask, answered. Laurie was not his sister in the first...answered.

 

[Eelectro 2]

even though the movie did well 30 years ago, theres plenty of people between the ages of 10-20 who havent' seen these films or didnt' care for them enough to ever want to watch them. when they are remade, yes, they are making money off of it but the poeple in charge of it care abou the characters enough and want to introduce them to a new audience. i think of it like the other movies dont' exist. i'll watch em on amc for halloween maybe but the new one is by far superior. the story has tension and plays our perfect

 

[The Dark Defender]

That would've been fairly dumb to not make Laurie his sister. Her being a random baby sitter in the wrong town at the wrong time doesn't make sense since the whole movie basically revolves around Michael stalking her. I also like how in the remake Michael was out to reunite with Laurie rather than killing her. He killed his older sister for being a b**** but wanted to reunite with the one person he loved.

I have one question though: In the remake, after Laurie stabbed Michael, was he trying to kill her or still get her to understand that they were related?

The reason he brought his sisters headstone to the house was because he was re-creating his sisters death in his mind over and over, that's what he was thinking about all that time in the sanitarium when Loomis referenced how "inhumanly patient" he was, that's why he chooses to wear a mask as he did that night, that's why the opening scene freeze frames as the camera pans out after he kills his sister, this is the event that he will be trying to re-create time and time again throughout his life.

When he got to the Myers house, he latched onto the first person that he seen, it could've happened to anyone, which makes it more frightening.

Michael represents fate and death itself, Laurie wasn't killed yet because she wasn't meant to be, and death was still out there and would be back for her.
That's the idea of Michael appearing behind her at the exact moment that she starts singing "I wish I had you all alone, just the two of us," and the "Don't Fear the Reaper" song playing on the radio, and the scene where Laurie is in class talking about fate as Michael watches her from outside.

None of this depth is present in Zombie's film, and I highly doubt that he understood any of it.