Halloween Remake Thread...

[Arcturus]

The reason he brought his sisters headstone to the house was because he was re-creating his sisters death in his mind over and over, that's what he was thinking about all that time in the sanitarium when Loomis referenced how "inhumanly patient" he was, that's why he chooses to wear a mask as he did that night, that's why the opening scene freeze frames as the camera pans out after he kills his sister, this is the event that he will be trying to re-create time and time again throughout his life.

When he got to the Myers house, he latched onto the person that he seen, it could've happened to anyone, which makes it more frightening.

Michael represents fate and death itself, Laurie wasn't killed yet because she wasn't meant to be, and death was still out there and would be back for.
That's the idea of Michael appearing behind her at the exact moment that she starts singing "I wish I had you all alone, just the two of us," and the "Don't Fear the Reaper" song playing on the radio, and the scene where Laurie is in class talking about fate as Michael watches her from outside.

None of this depth is present in Zombie's film, and I highly doubt that he understood any of it.

I wholeheartedly agree Stormy, you got it 100% right.

 

[Norman Bates]

None of this depth is present in Zombie's film, and I highly doubt that he understood any of it.

Exactly. I look at Zombie's remake as Halloween for the ADD.

The original still and will always remain a giant among horror and rightfully so.

 

[GoldGoblin]

Even the characters that had a small part are forgetable,like Bob.In the original you know what Bob looks like,and you can remember all the scenes that he has in the movie,he stands out.

The Bob in Zombie's version is a blur,you don't remember what he looked like,how he got killed,and he wasn't likable.

 

[WorthyStevens]

This isn't the original. I thought everyone would've understood it by now?

 

[The Dark Defender]

No, it's not.

It's a white trash redneck fest that shows us what'd be like if the Myers family guest starred on the Springer show blended with a typical over the top slasher flick, the same type of stuff that Zombie *****es about in other horror films.

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

No, it's not.

It's a white trash redneck fest that shows us what'd be like if the Myers family guest starred on the Springer show blended with a typical over the top slasher flick, the same type of stuff that Zombie *****es about in other horror films.

Rob Zombie is Horror's biggest hypocrite, He whined about remakes when the Psycho remake hit the big screen and then proceeded to put his foot in his mouth with House of a 1000 Corpses (Texas Chainsaw remake sans the Micheal Bay aftertaste) and Halloween. After watching The Directors Cut of Halloween, I still don't understand why this clown is put on such a high pedestal.

 

[Jspider13]

This isn't the original. I thought everyone would've understood it by now?

dude...

wth...your avatar is going to give me nightmares.

 

[Nightmare]

dude...

wth...your avatar is going to give me nightmares.

Lmao


Seriously whats up with Rob Zombie having to have "White Trash" in all his horror movies???

 

[matthooper]

I still don't understand why this clown is put on such a high pedestal.

Who puts him on a high pedastal? Certainly not the movie public. Maybe his music is respected, I don't know anything about his music so I can't speak to that. Halloween 2007 was a huge dissapointment, that's a fact. $58 million domestic is not good. House of 1,000 corpses was an utter failure that made just $12 million domestic. Sure it cost nothing to make but the point here is public reaction and respect. I don't know who is putting this guy on a pedastal, but it certainly isn't the public.

 

[Drizzle]

Exactly. I look at Zombie's remake as Halloween for the ADD.

The original still and will always remain a giant among horror and rightfully so.

But there's so many more plotholes in the original. I like them both equally, but I think Zombie brought a better version of Michael Myers (and a better Dr. Loomis, for that matter) to the table.

 

[The Dark Defender]

But there's so many more plotholes in the original. I like them both equally, but I think Zombie brought a better version of Michael Myers (and a better Dr. Loomis, for that matter) to the table.

What are these plotholes that you're talking about?

And Zombie brought a better version of Michael and Loomis to the table you prefer wooden acting from Loomis and Michael to be a Jason Voorhees/Thomas Hewitt hybrid.

 

[The Joker_1000]

If you knew how he got the mask, why did you ask in your post how he got the mask? Your "points" as to your plot holes were addressed. You asked about the mask, answered. Laurie was not his sister in the first...answered.

I asked that before I watched the original Halloween that day.

 

[The Shape]

But there's so many more plotholes in the original. I like them both equally, but I think Zombie brought a better version of Michael Myers (and a better Dr. Loomis, for that matter) to the table.

Pretty much the only thing Zombie got right about Michael Myers was his look. He looked awesome. The mask was great, Tyler Mane was huge, the jumpsuit didn't look like it came from the cleanest mechanic ever. But after that, that's it.

The movie doesn't even make any sense. Okay, we get the whole serial killer, white trash backgroujd, which can happen to a lot of kids and has happened to a lot. The what? He turns into the hugest man alive, breaks, out, heads back to Haddonfield where he sees grown-up Laurie at his doorstep and somehow realizes..."Hey, that's Boo!" So then he goes on a pointless rampage, killing off nearly every character in the movie that had lines, and when he fially gets Laurie in his perfect serial killer lair, he whips out the picture of the two of them, drops to his knees, takes his mask off and does nothing. What the hell does this mean? If he wasn't going to kill her, what did he plan on doing? He stopped speaking years ago, so he couldn't have a conversation with her. What does he expect her to do?

Yeah, I get that Michael spares Laurie because he saw her as the innocent baby who never did any wrong in the world, but this whole thing doesn't make sense.

In the original, Michael was a killer with no motivation or purpose. He began stalking Laurie Strode and her friends purely because one day when he was a child, he snapped. Nobody knew what the hell he wanted, and it was scarier that way. It feels like Zombie designed his movie around the murders and tit shots, and then filled in some "story" elements as he went along.

 

[Jackasscoley15]

Pretty much the only thing Zombie got right about Michael Myers was his look. He looked awesome. The mask was great, Tyler Mane was huge, the jumpsuit didn't look like it came from the cleanest mechanic ever. But after that, that's it.

The movie doesn't even make any sense. Okay, we get the whole serial killer, white trash backgroujd, which can happen to a lot of kids and has happened to a lot. The what? He turns into the hugest man alive, breaks, out, heads back to Haddonfield where he sees grown-up Laurie at his doorstep and somehow realizes..."Hey, that's Boo!" So then he goes on a pointless rampage, killing off nearly every character in the movie that had lines, and when he fially gets Laurie in his perfect serial killer lair, he whips out the picture of the two of them, drops to his knees, takes his mask off and does nothing. What the hell does this mean? If he wasn't going to kill her, what did he plan on doing? He stopped speaking years ago, so he couldn't have a conversation with her. What does he expect her to do?

Yeah, I get that Michael spares Laurie because he saw her as the innocent baby who never did any wrong in the world, but this whole thing doesn't make sense.

In the original, Michael was a killer with no motivation or purpose. He began stalking Laurie Strode and her friends purely because one day when he was a child, he snapped. Nobody knew what the hell he wanted, and it was scarier that way. It feels like Zombie designed his movie around the murders and tit shots, and then filled in some "story" elements as he went along.

Hit the nail right on the head.

 

[The Joker_1000]

I don't think so, I still find the remake to be better than the original.

 

[The Shape]

I don't think so, I still find the remake to be better than the original.

To each his own.

Maybe the remake can be viewed as "cooler" to some, but it lost the element that made the original a classic -- suspense.

 

[The Joker_1000]

I don't think so. I mean, the original had great suspense at times but I feel that the remake was better at capturing suspense.

 

[The Shape]

I don't think so. I mean, the original had great suspense at times but I feel that the remake was better at capturing suspense.

Nah, everytime there was a chance for a suspensful moment, Zombie killed it by having Michael jump out and slit a throat. He obviously went for shock value over suspense, which was a big mistake.

 

[Norman Bates]

Nah, everytime there was a chance for a suspensful moment, Zombie killed it by having Michael jump out and slit a throat. He obviously went for shock value over suspense, which was a big mistake.

It takes a certain craft and talent to greatly execute a suspensful scene. I personally don't feel Rob has it in him. He was too busy telling his camera operator to rack focus every 5 seconds.

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

Who puts him on a high pedastal? Certainly not the movie public. Maybe his music is respected, I don't know anything about his music so I can't speak to that. Halloween 2007 was a huge dissapointment, that's a fact. $58 million domestic is not good. House of 1,000 corpses was an utter failure that made just $12 million domestic. Sure it cost nothing to make but the point here is public reaction and respect. I don't know who is putting this guy on a pedastal, but it certainly isn't the public.

he gets good press, but press is bought and sold. Down south this guy is praised as if he were the next Hitchcock.

 

[The Joker_1000]

It takes a certain craft and talent to greatly execute a suspensful scene. I personally don't feel Rob has it in him. He was too busy telling his camera operator to rack focus every 5 seconds.

Although I loved the nudity, it was definitely too much in the movie. I still love the movie though.

 

[Jackasscoley15]

I don't think so. I mean, the original had great suspense at times but I feel that the remake was better at capturing suspense.

and....would you care to elaborate?

 

[punishermax]

I did not want this movie to happen. Then came the trailer and I got excited for this movie. Wanted to see it, but decided against seeing it in theaters and waited until it came to DVD. I watched it last week, and I am extremely disappointed. I tried to like, I really did. But I just couldn't get behind the movie. The first hour or so, findinf out Michael comes from a ****ed up home, was fine. The interaction with Loomis throughout the movie, I liked. Michael escapes, I liked how he escaped. Then we get to Haddonfield, and then boom, people start dying. It was so quick to the end. It was a flash and boom, roll credits. You meet Laurie and the gang, and then they die. You have no time to spend with these characters to become even remotely sympathetic towards them. I give this movie a 5/10. I'm not someone who looks down on remakes either. I usually give them a chance to stand on their own and try not to compare to much to the original. Believe it or not, I really like the TCM remake. I love it actually, I also like the original. So, without even comparing this movie to the original I don't like it. The first half I like alot, the last part of the movie, I do not. Overall on its own it gets a 5, comparing it to the original, I'd give it a 2 maybe a 3. Also, I am not a Zombie hater either, I really like Corpses, and Devil's Rejects.

 

[The Shape]

It takes a certain craft and talent to greatly execute a suspensful scene. I personally don't feel Rob has it in him. He was too busy telling his camera operator to rack focus every 5 seconds.

Exactly. He really had so sense of direction on this film.

 

[Nightmare]

I don't think so, I still find the remake to be better than the original.

W..T...F... WOW

First person ive heard say that..