Watchmen HBO Eyeing ‘Watchmen’ TV Series from Damon Lindelof

[Sithborg]

That was an amazing hour of television. Very powerful.

The origins of Hooded Justice was great. And the connections it made. Pretty much they eye paint paired with all the times we have seen Angela with a similar look. I particularly love the essential reversal of the American Heroe Story of the first entrance of Hooded Justice. And Captain Manhattan was great. Loved seeing that the Minutemen were also a bunch of *******s for publicity. And I loved that there was still sci-fi tech involved. Watchmen hinted a bit at that time having some of that old pulpy material tech, but it was great to see that it was actually there.

Also, it is impressive at how much they have been able to predict, or even shape expectations. Fans have been making the Superman parallel since the beginning. But they decided to actually make it explicit. The way this show treats its audience's intelligence is impressive.

 

[thangaran]

What a brilliant episode. The portrayal of urban suffering and treatment of african americans is just so unsettling (I’m relatively new to american history and slowly learning more about it). The artistic depth alone of seeing the police car “drag away those bodies” was such a subtle masterstroke that felt like a knife plunge and twist.

does anyone happen to know or guess what the big plan may be in next week’s preview?

the last episode must feature silver slick condom man slide to do something tremendously heroic!!! That would be tres tres epique!

 

[Detective Conan]

Man, this episode was masterful. Can’t believe there’s only three episodes left.

 

[KaijuDude1992]

My god just when I think this show couldn't get any better they hit us with something like tonight's episode which was just beyond excellent IMO. Such an incredible performance from Jovan Adepo who I have only been following just recently, but after seeing him in stuff like Overlord, The Leftovers, When They See Us, Jack Ryan and now this the man is truly a force of talent and should get all the Emmy/awards recognition he deserves.

Regina King was pretty fantastic in this as well even though a lot of her acting had more to do with body language than actual dialogue, but man I really think she killed it in this episode too, especially the scenes that just focused on her facial expressions.

I really loved everything that had to do with Hooded Justice's backstory in this, and it's awesome that we finally got some confirmation on what some of you already called weeks ago. Seeing how they integrated the Minutemen into his story was especially great.

I am really not ready for this show to end.

 

[David H.]

No mention of Hollis Mason?

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His “origin”, as told in the excerpts of Under the Hood from the comics, is that he too was a midwestern-born beat cop in New York who took up costumed crimefighting after reading about Hooded Justice (and also Superman comics.)

After Snyder and Nolan got visual callbacks, I expected Burton to be next, not Iñarritu. Props to that, using Birdman’s “stream of consciousness” style for an examination of what drives a man to put on a pair of tights that I did enjoy.

P.S.

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Lady Trieu reading Ayn Rand’s The Fountainhead at the end.

There’s joke in there, right? The Smartest Man in the World™ being tried by a jury of his peers... as he put it, “dimwits.”

 

[David H.]

I feel like there’s not enough talk about the 1939 Nazi rally at Madison Square Garden the episode briefly referenced (newspaper clipping in Will’s cyclops folder), much like the Tulsa race riots in Ep. 1.

Or is it just me?

 

[Sithborg]

New Peteypedia's are up. One of them is a memo from Laurie, so that is an entertaining read. Also confirm that Trieu is responsible for the Manhattan booths. Also, heavily implies that Manhattan footage is on a loop. Also, she may be one of Comedian's kids.

 

[TMP98]

This was the second DC project Glenn Fleshler's been in the past month

 

[flickchick85]

Also, she may be one of Comedian's kids.

I don't think her age would really fit if she's supposed to be from that time in Vietnam. Though I guess with everything else she's been able to do, I suppose anti-aging solutions wouldn't seem far-fetched at all.

 

[Sithborg]

I don't think her age would really fit if she's supposed to be from that time in Vietnam. Though I guess with everything else she's been able to do, I suppose anti-aging solutions wouldn't seem far-fetched at all.

Given her work with Nostalgia, I don't think that necessarily means she is from that time. It is entirely possible she has those memories from her mother. Like her daughter.

 

[Art Vandelay]

Big fan of the movie, but this show is putting me to sleep. I hope the last 3 episodes really turn everything on its head.

Boo this man.

 

[Man in the Suit]

I'm a big fan of Stephen Williams' work on Person of Interest, Westworld, and The Walking Dead. He directed the hell out of this episode. It was incredible. Definitely the best episode so far.

 

[samsnee]

Who Is Hooded Justice? Watchmen Has a Stunning Answer.

Great interview on how they decided to make HJ black. I certainly don’t need all the answers spelled out for me and like the approach they’ve taken so far.

Only thing left I hope they answer is how Angela survived the White Night. There was one more attacker that someone took out. I assume it was Judd that did it but not so sure.

How does writing on Watchmen compare to writing on The Good Place?
I’ve learned a lot from both Mike Schur and Damon Lindelof. They’re both brilliant. The Good Place is an incredibly complex show, but it’s one that doesn’t really leave stones unturned. It answers all the questions. Damon’s exactly the opposite. Damon is a man who likes a mystery, and he thinks that it’s okay if questions aren’t answered. I really pushed back against that when I first started working in the room, because that’s exactly the opposite kind of writer that I am. I want everything to be answered and I want to solve all the mysteries. But that’s not Damon’s way, and the thing that I’ve realized is that Damon’s way is what makes the show exciting for a lot of people. That’s what made Lost exciting for a lot of people. That’s what made The Leftovers exciting for a lot of people: Damon’s staunch unwillingness to answer everything for everybody, and let people interpret things how they want to interpret them.

 

[Detective Conan]

Big fan of the movie, but this show is putting me to sleep. I hope the last 3 episodes really turn everything on its head.

Really? I find myself to be the opposite, the movie put me to sleep, while I’m a big fan of the show so far.

To each their own.

 

[samsnee]

Really? I find myself to be the opposite, the movie put me to sleep, while I’m a big fan of the show so far.

To each their own.

Same. I remember falling asleep in the theater. The narrative of this is much more compelling compared to how the original novel was translated to the big screen. I would argue this is more faithful to the spirit of the novel than the movie was, which was just slow motion action and a groan worthy sex scene.

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

The movie has no to let the material breath regardless of which cut you watch and it doesn't help that Randian Snyder doesn't understand the material.

 

[Closerframe]

This show continues to blow my mind. Although I know Moore doesn't care about any of his material being adapted, even he would respect last night's episode. Making HJ black makes so much sense, narratively, and it recontextualizes the graphic novel while also honoring it. Also, I read on Reddit that F.T. & Sons is a reference to Fred Trump being a KKK member.

 

[David H.]

I’ve felt eager to revisit whole series or just single episodes before for various tv shows for varying reasons. With this one, it’s been mostly about trying to catch bits of information I might have missed the first go-around, but with last night’s episode, perhaps a first for me, what compels me is the deep feeling of melancholy it managed to convey, something even downright tragic in retrospect.

Will overlooking the burning warehouse while The Ink Spots (yeah, nice job getting that name in the Watchmen soundtrack) croon about losing “all ambition of worldly acclaim” is up there with...

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Spoilers for the movie The Lighthouse

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Willem Dafoe’s close-up as he’s being buried alive in the list of the year’s most haunting sights and sounds.

 

[TMP98]

"It’s noted in the original Nite Owl Hollis Mason’s memoir, Under the Hood, that Hooded Justice said complimentary things about Adolf Hitler and the Nazi party. The Hooded Justice in HBO’s Watchmen is depicted as being vehemently against racism, fascism, and Nazism. So how did Lindelof and his team justify this?
Finally, Lindelof said they justified this by looking at how Will’s costume doesn’t just cover his identity, but his race. “Part of Will Reeves’s camouflage in terms of hiding his true identity required making statements like that in the presence of the other Minutemen so as to throw off the scent of who he truly was,” Lindelof said."
That explains the Nazi thing haha. Source

 

[NotNickFury]

The only Minuteman not there was Sally.

They've got you covered on that one:

 

[TMP98]

They've got you covered on that one:

I love the dichotomy between how home-made their suits were and how professional they looked like in the "American Hero Story" segments, going so far as to use the exact suits that Snyder had used for the film. Fits with the comic since Mason said he'd made his suit himself

 

[squeekness]

Man, this episode was masterful. Can’t believe there’s only three episodes left.

Only three?

 

[Flint Marko]

Finally all caught up.

Last night was genuinely one of the best episodes of TV I've seen in quite some time

 

[Detective Conan]

They've got you covered on that one:

Here’s the comic version and Snyder version of the photo for comparison.

 

[Art Vandelay]

I hate that there are so many easily triggered man children that are actively hating on the series just because it's been dealing with racism.