He-man Sequel Series (Netflix)

DarthSkywalker said:
He-Man and Masters of the Universe are pretty interchangeable, and again, they emphasized He-Man. It's was misdirection. The two trailers, especially the teaser that got everyone hyped, was all about the big man.

This is the poster for grayskull's sake:

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Yes but they could've easily called it He-Man: Masters of the Universe. And the poster kind of didnt lie lol. But I think we still have to see Pt.2 to see how important he is. This story couldnt have worked without him.
 
Why are you quoting spoiler tagged material and replying without spoiler tags?

Also, your argument is just incorrect. Whether one likes it or not, and I do like it so far, what I am saying is pretty undeniable.
 
I enjoyed Part 1, but I always hate it when Netflix splits a series into two parts.

The animation and score was great, action sequences were fun, dug most of the voices and characters, especially Evil-Lyn.

Was also thrown off by the mild language at first, but then got used to it.

Hamill as Skeletor was fun, but I think I still prefer Brain Dobson’s take from the 2002 series. It kept the camp and distinctive sound of Alan Oppenheimer while still being a far more credible threat than the original.

My favourite episodes were 1, 4, and 5. I had a feeling what was going to happen with the cliffhanger, but did not think they would go there. But then that other twist happened!! :eek:
 
Spoiler tagging this.

My review of the first episode : "The Power Of Grayskull"

Well... That was all kinds of fun with some weight which was what it was billed at from the start and it began right off the bat with the intro scene using the art style we remember from the mini comics and toy packaging.

It is for sure NOT the 80's show in writing or tone but it retains a lot of gee whiz charm and it looks and sounds amazing for a TV show based on a toy line. Bear brought an old school hero sound all around that fit our heroes very well. And it's all still very much aimed at young people despite it existing solely as a nostaglia update piece.

THIS is what I saw in my mind's eye playing with the figures and reading the mini comics.

As a set up it did feel slighty, just slightly rushed. An extra ten minutes for a premiere episode wouldn't have hurt the proceedings and might have helped with some aspects. What exactly is Teela's feelings towards either Adam or He-Man prior to the events of the episode is my question? Just friends? Comrades in arms with a long history? Romantic interest? It is pretty opaque. And that's not me wanting there to be romance. If they are great friends that have been through a lot and that's it... Fine. More than fine. But I think that you didn't quite get the depth and particulars of the relationship before the siege of Grayskull. There IS something there whatever it is because Teela's sense of betrayal is justified to a large degree. And she's not the only one. Randor has some obvious issues which I think will turn out to be that he's really angry at himself for both not seeing the truth in front of him and thinking that Adam was just a coward and a dolt.


The episode hit many points from the classic continuity that were dangling. Teela's true origin, Randor's shoddy opinion of his son, Marlena knowing that Adam was He-Man. So much grist for the drama mill if played right.

Outside of the shortness this was very sastisfying an opener. I'm sure much of what comes next will be very different but this was a nice intro.
 
Marketing can be 100% true, showing stuff that is in the show/movie, and still be deceptive. I think the clip they released for this show is a very good example. That scene is in the show. Nothing is missing from the clip, nor from the episode. But the clip does not have the context of that scene, essentially misleading what one is expecting to see in the show.
 
My review for "The Poisoned Chalice"

Okay... Now we are caught up to modern day and we are in the midst of the current status quo. Hero and villain disappeared and life continues on if not the same as before. Teela gains a side kick... Or girlfriend, hard to tell honestly, and set up as soldiers of fortune.

I knew it was Lynn from the start but very interesting to see that Sorceress and she are looking to return magic to the world. My question is... Lyn's motivations, are they for her own gain or did she really feel something like loss when her master evaporated into nothingness?

Root is killing it as Cringer which is a nice surprise.

So Snake Mountain is now Triclop's HQ and he's on some kind of Borg Queen crusade? I will say... I hope TrapJaw isn't done for. Yeah, he's not much of a character but he's a great looking bad guy. Hopefully he gets an upgrade. LOL.

The PEOPLE of Eternia seem to be getting some shine too or at least we get a sense of them dealing with a changed world, and seeking new or old "faiths" is usually part of that in real life.

Okay so Andra... I don't care if she and Teela are a couple but after Legend Of Korra... **** or get off the pot. Don't be coy. And... things are so opaque with this I'm not even sure if they are being coy it's so muddy.

I am a LITTLE miffed Andra is a tech specialist if only because I assumed Teela would like Duncan have to be a master of that aspect of Eternia to become "Man At Arms", or that would be my assumption.

A solid if somewhat uneventful second episode but I can see this being the blueprint going forward. Some catching up as well as flashbacks which... I'm down.
 
My review for "The Most Dangerous Man On Eternia".

Always nice to see Duncan. I don't know if it is that his action figure came with so many extras and details but I've always had a soft spot for Man At Arms and the older I get the more affinity I have for characters like him, the veteran with experience and hard won wisdom who is also just a pillar of rectitude and morals. His reaction to seeing Teela lets you know how much he is filled with regret.

Now... What is the deal with Lynn and Beastman? That was unexpected. What's his deal? He have feelings for Lynn? And man... It's looking a lot like Lynn really did "love" Skeletor.

Also... Again, muddied waters... Was Teela in love with He-Man? Lynn seems to just say it was so but the show is going back and forth with "clues". This is interesting though as it's very much dealing with something like, what if Silver Age Lois Lane learned Clark Kent's alter ego and instead of instant acceptance the character NEEDS to go through a journey of their own feelings.


It's also something that our band isn't out to bring He-Man back just reforge the sword to save all there is. NOW... Lynn may be out to return her former master to the world.

Oh, also... Bring back Merman later on for some vengeance against Lynn. I rather liked Conroy's take and it's a nice chang to hear him doing sinister characters.

This was fun and I LOVE the way the environemt of Eternia is being used so far.

OH... Biggest surprise of all was that so far Orko is not rubbing me the wrong way.
 
My review for "Land Of The Dead".

This was the stongest episode in terms of writing and character.

First off... I'm sorry I'm still very unclear on Scare Glow... Is he Skel's ghost? But he served his purpose well and Todd was in fine form. Loved the call back to the the Shadow Beasts and THIS version of Orko I can get behind... And just when I warmed to him he's gone which... Easy come, easy go I suppose. The Lyn and him stuff was working though. I would have loved to have seen that relationship, which, never would have come to me as a kid develop. I should have know like with LOST, when you get character's back story they aren't long for this world, am I right @Perfect Cell?

Still need to know what is Beastman's loyalty to Lyn based on? What's his deal?

So Teela's got a lot going on but it makes sense to see how she is dealing with things. And man, the hints about her true nature are coming at a good clip.

Now, as for that ending cliffhanger... I was NOT expecting Adam to show up in the "heaven" of Preternia but IF Scare Glow was a shadow of Skeletor in hell then an Echo of Adam being in Preternia tracks.
 
It's funny how opinions vary from site to site. People here seem generally in favour of what they've seen so far. I've been over on MovieChat for a couple of hours and that is NOT the prevailing opinion there! (I hope Kevin Smith's got himself some protection!)
 
Milk Tray Guy said:
Apparently 4chan is ripping into it as well (although I haven't seen that for myself).
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This is the least surprising thing I have ever heard.

By the way, on where things are headed:

I am getting a Buffy/Kendra vibe here. Where We will end up with two champions in Adam and Teela. Equals in everyway. Then they can kiss. ****ing kiss goddamn you!!! I'm sorry, I overreacted. I just watched the first 16 episodes of Sex Education, and the Otis/Maeve situation is infuriating!!!
 
My review for "The Forge And The Forest Of Forever".


Okay... This one turned it up a couple of notches by far but... Also displays some issues the show, now five episodes deep has.


So at the midpoint of the season Teela's team have traversed Eternian hell and have come to Eternian Heaven which... Okay, wonderfully mythological. And the appearance of Adam at the end of the last episode was great and frankly unexpected to a large degree even though it makes sense for him to be there. Getting some closure on Orko was very nice and Lyn, always a fave of mine shows layers in mourning him.

So "Preternia" here is the Elysium fields of MOTU? And Adam and the past champions exist here for all time or some such? Adam "died" and he appeared there and his inner psyche made him... Adam in form? Okay. That's an interesting little nugget, sort of how like after all the years and adventures Peter Parker still can't shake his time as a put upon teenager deep down. There is an inner core of humbleness then in He-Man, depite being "the most powerful man in the Universe"?

Again... What is the relationship Adam and Teela have here? Are they feeling each other out romantically or... What? Was it just about a sense of betrayed trust or something more? They needed to show some aspect in the times they've used flashbacks to flesh this out but... They didn't.

Which five deep gets me to a sub optimal aspect of the show. They really are hoping for the viewer to either fill in the blanks themselves quite a bit or take a lot of face value stuff to heart And... It works sometimes and others it can feel like they rushed the story and relationships to just get to where they want the plot to be with pretty big dangling plot and character threads not quite laid out fully. The Teela He-Man/Adam relationship being something I have harped on a bit. Also, if I'm honest, I was expecting just a little more action. It's cool everyone is talking about their emotions and the like, it's well done, but throwing in some more fight scenes would have benefitted the show I think.


Now... That ending?

Holy crap. That was quick, I should have seen it coming, but hooboy... Didn't see them going to that place, though it is fitting... He-Man ran Skel through so why not return the favor. How does this affect things? Will Adam be able to recover? Can he, as a "dead person" in the world of the living?

I also want ot know how this will tie into Teela's "destiny" etc. As a cliffhanger I am a bit scared of who will survive the end of episode six given Skeletor's ascenscion to super powered god status. I mean... I can see the Sorceress not living or dying to stop Skel and... Welp, she may not get that mother/daughter time she wanted. And will Adam die? Doubtful but... Maybe? Teela wields the sword then? Also, the idea that there's this "Justice League" of past Champions that CAN cross over to the world of the living? Yeah... That's gotta come back by the finish of the show, right?

Side note... I'm calling it now... Evil-Lyn is dying by the end of the show. She has connected with the good guys but she'll make amends by sacrificing herself in some way to atone.

It's a really good cliffhanger and... I'm in. I will wait with baited breath for the second halfof the season to drop. They hooked me.

If Whedon's "First Five Episodes" is the pilot holds true... Yeah they sold me. There's definite room for improvement in some areas but I want to see what the finale of the story is.

Also... They have some great easter eggs and mining of the developing MOTU lore. The concept of the Trollans forging the sword was obviously kept, but all the rest, like Orko being sent to Eternia and not accidentally arriving? What's the status there? Kinda wondering if Skeletor is Keldor in this continuity as well?

This was a solid start that got better as time went on but had a few rough patches... Which if you go back and watch say, Last Airbender, was true of the first five episodes of that classic show so the possibility of this getting even better is pretty high in my opinion.
 
Having watched the first five episodes, here's what worked for me—and what didn't.

For starters, the animation is solid (I didn't quite love it, but it's fine); and the characters are well cast for the most part. Lena Headey, in particular, was born to play Evil-Lyn. She delivers her lines with just the right balance of gravitas and devilish wit. Chris Wood makes for a more than acceptable He-Man and Prince Adam, but I still find his performance in the dual role a bit stilted at times. Maybe it's just nostalgia talking, but he seems to lack some of the charm that John Erwin brought to the character way back on the original series. With Sarah Gellar (as Teela), I was a little concerned that her voice would be too reminiscent of the titular character she played on Buffy the Vampire Slayer, but she quickly put my fears to rest.

Voice talent aside, nearly every character is updated with depth and personality. Cringer, no longer just a timid tiger, is relatively insightful now; Teela has a true sense of agency; Orko's got self-esteem issues. The simple but effective plot moves along nicely too, even as Episode 2 drags on a bit. However, I do feel like the destructive nature of secret keeping, which serves as a recurring theme in the narrative, is slightly contradicted by the decision to have an arguably bigger secret kept from Teela, i.e., her true parentage. I'm sure she finds out in the second half of the series, but given her reaction to the He-Man reveal, why not just get everything out in the open? lol

While on the subject of He-Man, I'm not gonna pretend that I wasn't hoping to get a little more of the character in this. But two things: There's still more show to come. And regardless, you can't always have everything.

With that said, here are my additional takeaways, predictions and BS spitballing:

Adam, of course, isn't mortally wounded. As such, I'd love to see Part Two of the series kick off in the future, where he's grown into a seasoned warrior à la Marvel/Star's Masters of the Universe "Death of He-Man" comic from George Caragonne. That would be sweet. Will it happen? Probably not. So, let's move on.

I think it's Episode Five where Scare Glow manages to trigger some latent power in Teela. With that in mind, I wouldn't be surprised if she were to manifest full-blown magical abilities by series end, ultimately supplanting her mother as the new Sorceress of Grayskull.

The events of the show don't line up perfectly with the aforementioned prequel comic. So, if you haven't read that yet, I wouldn't worry about it.
 
I had a good time with these first five episodes. This is the first time I've ever watched any He-Man property, so there's assuredly a litany of references and callbacks that went over my head, but for a five-episode stretch to begin a series, I think it was solid. I thought the animation was decent, and I was a big fan of the music throughout.

The voice work was probably a high point, with Lena Headey being the standout, and it's always nice to see Conroy and Hamill work together, even if it's only for one scene. The whole "journey to the lands beyond death" plotline was very mythological, so even if I don't really have any past knowledge on these characters, it was easy enough to see what story beats they were trying to hit. Main characters sacrificing themselves left and right to obtain the Key Item and escape back to the land of the living? That's always a good time. That's a hell of an explosive cliffhanger to end things on, though.

So, is there any word on when Part 2 is coming out?
 
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Perfect Cell said:
I had a good time with these first five episodes. This is the first time I've ever watched any He-Man property, so there's assuredly a litany of references and callbacks that went over my head, but for a five-episode stretch to begin a series, I think it was solid. I thought the animation was decent, and I was a big fan of the music throughout.

The voice work was probably a high point, with Lena Headey being the standout, and it's always nice to see Conroy and Hamill work together, even if it's only for one scene. The whole "journey to the lands beyond death" plotline was very mythological, so even if I don't really have any past knowledge on these characters, it was easy enough to see what story beats they were trying to hit. Main characters sacrificing themselves left and right to obtain the Key Item and escape back to the land of the living? That's always a good time. That's a hell of an explosive cliffhanger to end things on, though.

So, is there any word on when Part 2 is coming out?
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Yeah the music kicked all kinds of ass. A FAR cry from the repetitive "action" music of the original show.

Any questions about the characters or mythology?

And I think the second half is about four months away.
 
KRYPTON INC. said:
Yeah the music kicked all kinds of ass. A FAR cry from the repetitive "action" music of the original show.

Any questions about the characters or mythology?

And I think the second half is about four months away.
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I don't want to get too bogged down with minutia. I can't think of anything that really stood out and made me say "what the hell is happening right now?". It was all pretty straightforward, and they did a good job at contextualizing things.

I guess the one thing left unanswered for me was the secret Duncan refrained from telling Teela. Reading through this thread seems to suggest that he was going to tell her that the Sorceress is her mother. So... that clears that up.
 
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