Hostel

[*ANTHONY*]

Has anyone seen either Hostel 1 or Part 2?
What does it mean "Quentin Tarantino presents..." ?

 

[Matt]

He is the producer. They slap his name on to make a few bucks, though he is really only producer in name only and has practically nothing to do with making the movie outside of being friends with Eli Roth.

On a side note, does anyone else find it hillarious that Eli Roth is so vocal about how bad other people's movies are?

 

[*ANTHONY*]

He is the producer.

oh, okay. I thoguht it was produced by somebody else.

 

[The Dark Defender]

First was terrible, second was decent.

 

[*ANTHONY*]

I thought the first was great. The second was very dull. It was only good at the begining when they conclude Paxton's story.

 

[Figs]

He is the producer. They slap his name on to make a few bucks, though he is really only producer in name only and has practically nothing to do with making the movie outside of being friends with Eli Roth.

On a side note, does anyone else find it hillarious that Eli Roth is so vocal about how bad other people's movies are?

I don't think I've read any interviews from him. Does he really talk a lot of trash? I've noticed a lot of people on these boards don't know what context is. Kinda like how a lot of Bay haters think he's arrogant, but if your older and literate you realize it's actually just good old fashioned confidence. Sorry if I went on a slight rant, tired of the sensitive day and age we live in. But yeah, throw me a link or two or three if you have any interviews or know where to find some.

 

[AhabTheArab]

i think cabin fever is badass. hostel not so much. second one i didnt bother to put my money into, im waiting for the rental....

 

[*ANTHONY*]

Cabin Fever.. now that was pretty bad.

 

[Matt]

I don't think I've read any interviews from him. Does he really talk a lot of trash? I've noticed a lot of people on these boards don't know what context is. Kinda like how a lot of Bay haters think he's arrogant, but if your older and literate you realize it's actually just good old fashioned confidence. Sorry if I went on a slight rant, tired of the sensitive day and age we live in. But yeah, throw me a link or two or three if you have any interviews or know where to find some.

He has been known to be heavily critical of other directors, which is funny being as he hasn't made a single good movie.

 

[The Dark Defender]

Hostel was ****ty porn with horrible looking prosthetic gore and obscenely poorly acted torture scenes.

The sequel was an improvement, but almost anything would've been.

 

[Figs]

He has been known to be heavily critical of other directors, which is funny being as he hasn't made a single good movie.

I guess I'll have to track some interviews down. I haven't seen Hostel 2 and didn't care awhole lot for Cabin Fever but the first Hostel was alright. I wouldn't go so far as to say he hasn't made a single good movie. I'm a huge horror movie fan and it is quite frankly an aquired taste for most people. So I think for just the Horror genre alone he has made a few good ones. As films altogether, maybe not but then the horror genre has always been the bastard child of the film industry.

 

[*ANTHONY*]

I have a crush on that girl in Hostel. The one that said she was born in Italy but her parents are Russian.

 

[The Dark Defender]

Roth's real life girlfriend.

 

[Matt]

I guess I'll have to track some interviews down. I haven't seen Hostel 2 and didn't care awhole lot for Cabin Fever but the first Hostel was alright. I wouldn't go so far as to say he hasn't made a single good movie. I'm a huge horror movie fan and it is quite frankly an aquired taste for most people. So I think for just the Horror genre alone he has made a few good ones. As films altogether, maybe not but then the horror genre has always been the bastard child of the film industry.

I like good horror movies. Eli Roth doesn't make good horror movies. He makes blood and boob fests with no story or character development. Then he makes some vague comment about the "politics" behind his movie, and suddenly everyone has to praise it or risk looking stupid.

 

[*ANTHONY*]

Roth's real life girlfriend.

really?!

 

[The Dark Defender]

Horror is the best genre in the business, it's the "bastard child" to people in the industry that think overly sappy, drawn out drama is high class art.

Roth makes shock/torture films, regardless of how you choose to label them though, I'd agree that he's just not very good at it.

 

[The Dark Defender]

really?!

Yup, atleast she was when Hostel came out.

 

[Matt]

Horror is the best genre in the business, it's the "bastard child" to people in the industry that think overly sappy, drawn out drama is high class art.

Roth makes shock/torture films, regardless of how you choose to label them though, I'd agree that he's just not very good at it.

Horror can be good. Roth just doesn't make horror. He makes porn with violence. The point of horror movies are to scare you. Not to see how bloody one scene can be or how many boobs you can show in one movie. It is that kind of mentality that led to the downfall of the genre.

 

[The Dark Defender]

I don't think that every horror film necessarily needs to scare; some aim to scare, some aim to disturb, some merely mean to entertain...regardless of how one chooses to label Roth's films, they just aren't very good.

I think I'd rank Hostel as the worst film of 2006, and I say that as a hardcore horror buff.

 

[*ANTHONY*]

What I hate about horror films today is that they focus more on boobs and sex, then more of a good storyline and scary things. That's what made the shining so intelligent and crepy.

 

[Matt]

I respectfully disagree. After all, why go to horror movie if all I want to see is something I can do by Googling crime scene photos. If I go to a horror movie, I want to be geniunely scared. However, you clearly know what you're talking about, and at this point we are merely arguing opinion so I say we just agree to disagree on the aim of horror movies and agree to agree that Eli Roth is a hack

 

[Figs]

I like good horror movies. Eli Roth doesn't make good horror movies. He makes blood and boob fests with no story or character development. Then he makes some vague comment about the "politics" behind his movie, and suddenly everyone has to praise it or risk looking stupid.

Sorry but horror is all of that, violence, nudity. Horror movies are not cinfinded to just films that try to scare people. There are types like his that are meant for shock or gross out value. Kinda like how there is light, rock, hard rock, heavy metal, death metal, black metal. There are subgroups to horror. I understand that you just don't like this style and thats fine, but when I watch horror movies I don't always expect their to be good character development. Those are usually the ones were you can get with your friends and have a good time and some laughs because your not taking everything in life seriously.

 

[The Dark Defender]

Well for me gore can add to the intensity of a film depending on how it's done, if I see that a film is holding absolutely nothing back and isn't afraid to show me things that many other films would shy away from, then that means that anything can happen to anyone. That film has no boundaries. To make that's more intense, and essentially scary than a film that's showing me that the'll pull back, because chances are this means I'm practically guaranteed of certain boundaries, such as the "star" of the film surviving.

 

[Figs]

What I hate about horror films today is that they focus more on boobs and sex, then more of a good storyline and scary things. That's what made the shining so intelligent and crepy.

You could also call The Shinging more of a thriller though too. I agree with the sex is overdone in horror, but violence I don't mind. Doesn't mean every horror film needs it but I never fault one for it. Especially since that is a staple of horror anyway, death and whatnot.

 

[Matt]

Sorry but horror is all of that, violence, nudity. Horror movies are not cinfinded to just films that try to scare people. There are types like his that are meant for shock or gross out value. Kinda like how there is light, rock, hard rock, heavy metal, death metal, black metal. There are subgroups to horror. I understand that you just don't like this style and thats fine, but when I watch horror movies I don't always expect their to be good character development. Those are usually the ones were you can get with your friends and have a good time and some laughs because your not taking everything in life seriously.

If there isn't good character development, the movie lacks value. One of the most important aspects of horror is that you feel a connection with characters who more likely than not, will die. Otherwise, watching their death means nothing to the audience.