How can you make the Silver Surfer significant again?

Yeah, and they should throw in a quirky robot and a deadbeat ancestor for sidekicks, and have him visit major landmarks in Marvel history. That'd be really awesome. :)
 
Id have a Day of Vengeance esq miniseries where the Surfer went on a rampage killing all the Cosmic Dead weight in the Marvel universe. I get rid of everyone from Collector to the Watchers. Allthough many would argue that he isn't up to the task, i say invent some plot device that would allow him to succeed. Then just have him as the Universes most powerful entity, who can act all profound and mysterious when someone needs a fillin storyline. He could be the Marvel universes Doctor Manhattan. Obviously keep Badass characters like Nova, Adam Warlock and Drax, just get rid of all the God wannabees like Galactus and the Celestials.
 
I was a bit disappointed in that, myself. I didn't understand it at all. He spent all those years ostensibly atoning for the morally questionable stuff he'd done under Galactus, yet at the first sign of trouble he decides to hop back under Galactus' wing and agree to do all those morally questionable things again? Why? Galactus has never wanted for heralds, so it's obviously not because he thinks Galactus needs him or anything. Seemed like a reversion to the old status quo just for nostalgia's sake more than anything else.

I think the only reason they made him go back was becuase there was a movie coming out at the time.
 
That's probably the worst idea I've ever heard.

LOL.

I wasn't taking it that seriously. Im not really that keen on uber cosmic marvel, but i know youre not too keen on Sci-fi explanaitions of Gods and Superman so its natural that are oppions conflict.Obviously my oppinions are better, but you are still entitled to yours !!

Marvel can keep its cosmic scid marks for all i care. There not affecting me
 
Have his powers adjusted as a result of an altercation with Tenebrous and Aegis during such that his connection to the power cosmic (or ability to tap it) is greatly reduced or interferred with. The greater the exertion of his power, the more readily he is depleted and he has to seek out a more direct source of the power cosmic - this makes him almost Galactus like, whereby he depends on the power to live and must actively seek it out a lot of the time. Being on the Avengers then would make sense because he would have to restrain his abilites except in times of dire need, and would have a support network to help him come to terms with it and get him through tougher times. Plus there's the continuing sub plot of seeking to return him to his former glory because noble beings of his power level are sorely needed in the wake of the Wave etc.
 
One thing I dont understand about the ultimate version is how did he get the power cosmic such that he was mistaken for a freakin' star, yet was supposedly created by the bloody psycho man who needed a machine to brainwash people and had no physical abilites? Was anything more of the SS explained during the last couple issues of that arc? Cos I got bored as hell after the Psychoman showed up and only skimmed the next issue in the store
 
Have his powers adjusted as a result of an altercation with Tenebrous and Aegis during such that his connection to the power cosmic (or ability to tap it) is greatly reduced or interferred with. The greater the exertion of his power, the more readily he is depleted and he has to seek out a more direct source of the power cosmic - this makes him almost Galactus like, whereby he depends on the power to live and must actively seek it out a lot of the time. Being on the Avengers then would make sense because he would have to restrain his abilites except in times of dire need, and would have a support network to help him come to terms with it and get him through tougher times. Plus there's the continuing sub plot of seeking to return him to his former glory because noble beings of his power level are sorely needed in the wake of the Wave etc.

Having a character who basically has the power of God, is never a good thing for a Team book, (unless written by Warren Ellis). It doesn't matter how de-powered he is, he's still going to have the ability to transmute his opponents. Consequently having him on the team restricts immensely upon 'suspense' elements.

For example;

Avengers; 'Of my god here comes Ultron .... Oh wait, theres no need to panic ! the Surfers turned him into an ipod. God aren't you feeling rather 3rd wheelish ?
 
is his existence linked to galactus's? I know his origin, but what I'm getting at is, if Galactus were to become sick, and near death would it affect him at all? It might be kind of cool if he had to go on a quest throughout space and time to ry and save galactus, and deal with the moral implications of that.
either that or we can have a five book mini series where he has to mud wrestle with thanos.
 
No, Galactus' power level doesn't affect the Surfer's. They're both linked to the Power Cosmic, which is the energy that makes the whole universe tick. It's not generated by Galactus or anything.
 
gotcha. thanks
well so much for that.
who's up for the mud wrestling story?

or how about this.
Surfer begins to realize how hollow and lonesome it is being a being of such power, and longs for a normal life. So he uses the power cosmic to hide himself from himself. he masks his appearance, and hides his memory in a pocket of his subconscious. He wakes up on some random planet and starts living a "normal" life amused by these strange stories of a "silver man" that flys through the cosmos. Then in 5 years when Marvel has another huge event, he can be brought back. Maybe by then people will have missed him.
 
One thing I dont understand about the ultimate version is how did he get the power cosmic such that he was mistaken for a freakin' star, yet was supposedly created by the bloody psycho man who needed a machine to brainwash people and had no physical abilites? Was anything more of the SS explained during the last couple issues of that arc? Cos I got bored as hell after the Psychoman showed up and only skimmed the next issue in the store

:huh:
 
gotcha. thanks
well so much for that.
who's up for the mud wrestling story?

or how about this.
Surfer begins to realize how hollow and lonesome it is being a being of such power, and longs for a normal life. So he uses the power cosmic to hide himself from himself. he masks his appearance, and hides his memory in a pocket of his subconscious. He wakes up on some random planet and starts living a "normal" life amused by these strange stories of a "silver man" that flys through the cosmos. Then in 5 years when Marvel has another huge event, he can be brought back. Maybe by then people will have missed him.
Do you watch Doctor Who, by any chance?
 
I read that bit about the "pocket of his subconscious" as "pocketwatch" without even realizing it the first time. :)
 
not a tough connection to make.
I was defiantly influenced by the Doctor when I wrote that.
 

The origin of the Ultimate Silver Surfer - he was linked to the Psycho man rathr than Galactus. Galactus seemed to model his harbingers after Radd, but it hasnt been said he was created by Galactus. So I want to know how he became the Silver Surfer and got the power cosmic
 
Oh, I'd say the Surfer is pretty signigicant. He's only Marvel's most powerful superhero...perhaps you mean, how can Marvel make the Surfer's role in the Marvel universe more significant. That's a toughie. Norrin is always holding back because he doesn't want to revisit his old days as intergalactic thumb cruncher...not to mention, he is enormously powerful. Its hard to find too many bad guys that can go toe to toe with the ultra herald (Thanos, Annihilus and a few others in that league...). He needs something that causes him to change his values and I mean drastically, because right now Marvel could just as easily put the Surfer in a glass box labeled "break only in case of intergalactic emergency". He needs to reach the same place Thor is at in his life-he's "no longer holding back...". The Surfer needs to do the same. I mean DC has Superman and they don't allow his level of power to get in the way of his story. Granted, the Surfer is more powerful than the man of steel, which, again, makes it difficult. I suppose too, Marvel needs to know people want to see more of the Surfer and I guess they'll get creative and figure out a way to make his role more prominent again...
 
Read Annihilation. He manages to kill a being Galactus lost to.

Misleading!! He sacrifices himself to cause a cascade event that would end up in the destruction of two Galactus level beings.

Strange put them together to fight hugely powerful threats that no one else could handle. Which is exactly what I'm suggesting they get back together for.

I don't know why they disbanded. They were never really a team in the sense of the Avengers. Other members like Nighthawk and Valkyrie formed a more stable team, but Strange only called together the big guns like the Surfer, Hulk, and Namor when it was necessary.

See, I liked how the Defenders were like that. Each one of them were smug idiotic jerks that didn't want to deal with one another, but did by choice or by force, and ended up saving stuff. Sure, it gets old, but not in mini format!! Strange doesn't want to be on a team unless he's written by Bendis, then apparently he does this 180 degree character shift that makes him all touchy feely. "I feel bad about Civil War and not participating, and Bill Foster died. ...What do you mean I've inadvertantly caused deaths of dozens if not hundreds before, and didn't care then, because it served the universal good?"

I was a bit disappointed in that, myself. I didn't understand it at all. He spent all those years ostensibly atoning for the morally questionable stuff he'd done under Galactus, yet at the first sign of trouble he decides to hop back under Galactus' wing and agree to do all those morally questionable things again? Why? Galactus has never wanted for heralds, so it's obviously not because he thinks Galactus needs him or anything. Seemed like a reversion to the old status quo just for nostalgia's sake more than anything else.

He wasn't exactly atoning for what he did for Galactus, as much as doing what good he could for beings, as that was his nature. He constantly felt bad, but always justified it as they would've been dead if he didn't. Which is why he did it again, knowing of the Annihilation Wave, that Galactus, more than ever, needed help to survive, and the universe, in turn, would as well.

That, and Galactus told him he was like, the best herald ever. :o

"Lolz! Surfer, BFF!! :heart: "

Have his powers adjusted as a result of an altercation with Tenebrous and Aegis during such that his connection to the power cosmic (or ability to tap it) is greatly reduced or interferred with. The greater the exertion of his power, the more readily he is depleted and he has to seek out a more direct source of the power cosmic - this makes him almost Galactus like, whereby he depends on the power to live and must actively seek it out a lot of the time. Being on the Avengers then would make sense because he would have to restrain his abilites except in times of dire need, and would have a support network to help him come to terms with it and get him through tougher times. Plus there's the continuing sub plot of seeking to return him to his former glory because noble beings of his power level are sorely needed in the wake of the Wave etc.

Why would Galactus repower him with a problem?



Here's my suggestion, make him a Galactus herald, and attack Epoch for Galactus, reigniting Gravity.


And then just have him continue having the universe fear him, because they know the end is coming.

The end of Sakkar!! >: D They did think him the worldbreaker, originally. Would make sense he just leads Galactus there.
 
First of all, in the current scheme of things, I think putting him back at Galactus' side is a mistake if the intent is to make him significant. That doesn't allow for allow for a lot of wiggle room, though I think it works for the time being. Sometime down the road I could see him splitting from him via some large-scale story arc, probably taking place primarily in Nova, mainly because that's the only cosmic ongoing right now. If and when that happens, I think thats the chance for him to make his mark again. Hell, make it an arc that takes place in several books, and raise the scales with involvement from the Eternals and/or Celestials. I don't know what the exact story would be, but I could see something working from those pieces.
 
Well, as the Surfer stands, he's well liked enough around the cosmos (apparently), that nobody minds his constantly trying to help around the universe, which has been his ongoing task for a long time now.

Placing him at Galactus' side, puts him at odds with the universe, giving him plenty to do. As he doesn't ONLY spend his time looking for planets, and still embellishes in exploration, as he did last time he was with the OG.
 
The problem with that is that because he doesn't have his own series, we don't have much of a chance to see him partaking in any exploration. Since he's with Galactus, the only time we'll really see him is if there's another Annihilation-type event, or when Galactus is a threat, like in Fantastic Four.

Yeah, he really needs his own ongoing again. Keep him at Galactus' side for the first year or two, with the overall story about what you just said, him being at odds with the universe. There's a lot of story to be told there, and it would be great with the right writer.
 

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