Comics How does the marvel universe view Cyclops?

Emma Frost psychoanalyses Scott for an issue. ...........Whedon does have some great ideas for Cyclops, who gets ripped apart in this issue. Emma's complaints about him are pretty much valid. Everyone else gets a properly inspiring leader like Captain America or Reed Richards, but the X-Men are stuck with Cyclops. He's a character who made reasonable sense when he was merely the field leader and Professor X was there to set the direction. But without him, poor Scott is just a competent, decent tactician who keeps the show on the road but has no big ideas of his own. He's an honest, hardworking middle manager. It's a view of the character I basically agree with......

Yeah, but we know that this is the breaking down part so that Whedon will build him up. We're not supposed to think that Emma's telling the truth. IMO this a set up so we get to Cyke being happy with his choices, realizing his inner strength, etc. The thing is if Cyclops is as bad as you or Emma say he is. It really reflects badly on X for choosing someone like that as leader when he's gone. To make someone leader because they have "nothing else" is just colossaly stupid. Particularly when you have such a dramatic vision as X does.

Leadership is a burden, not a blessing. And I think as a character Cyke suffers from that, and only when you pull him out (like X3) does the fandom realize how important he was. Cap has the obvious American Dream symbolism so he's immune from that. It's not really a fair comparison.
 
I think that Emma was exploiting all the self-doubt that Cyclops has about himself. Think about it Cyclops was around 15 years old when he was made the X-Men's leader. What 15 year old would think they are a great leader like like the legendary Captain America or an intelligent leader like Reed Richards for that matter? Cyclops just has a confidence problem and hopefully Joss Whedon will rectify that.
 
tallsy_1 said:
Yeah, but we know that this is the breaking down part so that Whedon will build him up. We're not supposed to think that Emma's telling the truth. IMO this a set up so we get to Cyke being happy with his choices, realizing his inner strength, etc.

If they do that there is nothing left to write about with Cyke. It's always about his insecurities and they are not just in his head. There really are some issues he needs to address and doesn't.

The thing is if Cyclops is as bad as you or Emma say he is. It really reflects badly on X for choosing someone like that as leader when he's gone.

He did not make Cyke leader in his place. Cyke just picked it up by default when Xavier disappeared. Xavier was going to pick Jean as his successor as even Morrison stated. Xavier made Cyke the leader of the X-Men - the fighting team - as I said that is where Cyke excels. I have no issue with Cyke as the field leader of the X-Men. But he has shown little to no people skills or creative thinking outside of that area of expertise and his handling of the school and the 198 have been deplorable or pretty much left it to Emma.

To make someone leader because they have "nothing else" is just colossaly stupid. Particularly when you have such a dramatic vision as X does.

See above. People are confusing making Cyke the leader of the field team and him being a leader of the dream as a whole. I have never seen Scott as an overall leader that could replace Xavier as the one the government would go to for expertise on the mutant condition as Xavier was.
 
f4faith said:
Xavier made Cyke the leader of the X-Men - the fighting team - as I said that is where Cyke excels. I have no issue with Cyke as the field leader of the X-Men. But he has shown little to no people skills or creative thinking outside of that area of expertise and his handling of the school and the 198 have been deplorable or pretty much left it to Emma.
True. Cyclops is a soldier, not a politician or a spiritual leader.
 
MilkmanDan said:
True. Cyclops is a soldier, not a politician or a spiritual leader.

That where Storm comes in. They're two sides of the same coin when it comes to leadership of the X-Men. Cyke is more battle field while Storm has more political views.
 
f4faith said:
If they do that there is nothing left to write about with Cyke. It's always about his insecurities and they are not just in his head. There really are some issues he needs to address and doesn't.

He isn't the only one especially if your an X-men, i think there's plenty more too Cyke.

f4faith said:
He did not make Cyke leader in his place. Cyke just picked it up by default when Xavier disappeared. Xavier was going to pick Jean as his successor as even Morrison stated. Xavier made Cyke the leader of the X-Men - the fighting team - as I said that is where Cyke excels. I have no issue with Cyke as the field leader of the X-Men. But he has shown little to no people skills or creative thinking outside of that area of expertise and his handling of the school and the 198 have been deplorable or pretty much left it to Emma.

I think that may have been Xaviers intention but i don't think that would of been a good one i think it was left in good hands.

As for Emma well we'll see there.

f4faith said:
See above. People are confusing making Cyke the leader of the field team and him being a leader of the dream as a whole. I have never seen Scott as an overall leader that could replace Xavier as the one the government would go to for expertise on the mutant condition as Xavier was.

Did you read the end of the original GOD LOVES MAN KILLS? read it recently everything Scott did and said was brilliant and youll see who kept the dream alive there ;)
 
I do believe that Cyclops has the potential to be Xavier's successor, he's just got to overcome his confidence issues. The only place in his entire life he has any confidence is on the battlefield, especially now that Jean's gone for the time being. Of course, it doesn't help to have a domineering, oppressive woman like Emma on his back. But as we can see, he's gaining some ever so slowly. Especially with the way he's standing up to Emma recently.
 
Well hopefully thats what whendon is trying to do.

But as you know as soon as he leaves some ******** writer is going to come in who cant write and is just going the write him the same again.
 
Thats true. Cyclops is a fictional character he is only going to be as interesting or likable as the creators allow him to be.
 
Whedon's characterization is so brilliant. I think there would be a lot more to write about even if Cyclops moves on past his self-doubt. Maybe not self-doubt entirely, because that will always be a part of his character, however, maybe he can finally move beyond the self doubt that he is not a good/worthy leader, and I hope he learns that Jean truly loved him too. In my opinion, the coolest thing to do would be to give Cyke control of his powers, thats moving things forward.
 
The universe thinks he is a freak because he has one eye. They shun him at the spandex social gatherings and mock him behind his back (that way they do not get blasted)
 
LongDong said:
The universe thinks he is a freak because he has one eye. They shun him at the spandex social gatherings and mock him behind his back (that way they do not get blasted)

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