How many people has the Hulk killed ?

[Anubis]

Well, raving lunatics tend to, you know, rave.

Punisher doesn't rave. Not out loud anyway.

 

[BLACKVULCAN]

i gotta go with Wolverine for a bigger body count! that dude was made to kill he gets my vote. he's toned that &^%$ down but back in the day it was

Cyclops:i will vulcan nerve pinch this guy!
Wolverine NAW! I will gut him !please! please! oh please let me gut him!
Cyclops: We are heroes! we dont do that!
Wolverine: you didnt say that to the 24 other dudes i just killed!

then they tried to make him all noble and &^%$! the dudes a killing machine!

 

[Anubis]

I disagree.

Franks up there around 3,000. (After he nuked that island full of mercs.)

 

[BLACKVULCAN]

yeah but Anubis man! what about those "Hand" ninjas wolvies must have killed a boat load of *tabis of those guys!

* Ninja boots! BV hates ninjas and really &^%$ hate the hand! those dudes deserve to get whacked! stupid frank miller!

 

[Anubis]

Since the hand Ninjas are already dead technically, they don't count.

 

[BLACKVULCAN]

WHAT!!!
hahahahahahaha you would make a great lawyer! Dead guys don't count!! we are talking about a gamma spawned green monster with purple pants and dead guys dont count! hahahaha you are the best man!

 

[SuperFerret]

Frank (when written well) wants to kill people. Logan (when written well) doesn't enjoy killing people much. A well-written Wolverine should fall closer to Captain America's morality on killing than the Punisher's.

 

[raybia]

In real life the Hulk would have a very high body count as a result of just being like a force of nature. If I was given the chance to write a Hulk movie it would be very creepy and scary, like a combination of the original Frankenstein, King Kong and Jaws. It would have a large body count, it would be rated R and it would end with the apparent death of the Hulk.

 

[BLACKVULCAN]

how many times have we seen a well written Wolverine Sf. "old man Logan" maybe... hence the reason that he sucks now as a character. most writers want to bring him right back to killing (which i say was my initially attraction to him!) the guys has claws! that dude has lethal force all over him.....he cant get stuck in a wall! people still love to see dude kills and he kills lots of people. how many times can you boo-hoo i hate killing but "slice!" i get what you are saying but wolverine was a one trick pony when he was created. Alot of creators have said so they never knew he would get so popluar. so then they had to try and stop all his killing. that dude when he came on the scene. enjoyed it. hell how many people on screen did that dude PG-13 kill! Hulk nadda( he was going to kill Abomb till Betty stop em!) peolpe want to see Wolvie kills and he kills alot!
all superheroes have a body count but its like murder 1 with intent and manslaughter. Hulk's a manslaughter ,but wolverine's a killer!

 

[Anubis]

In real life the Hulk would have a very high body count as a result of just being like a force of nature. If I was given the chance to write a Hulk movie it would be very creepy and scary, like a combination of the original Frankenstein, King Kong and Jaws. It would have a large body count, it would be rated R and it would end with the apparent death of the Hulk.

Your movie would be worse than Ang Lee's, it would make even less money being rated R, and the Hulk Fanboys would burn pictures of you in effigy.

 

[Gamma Ra]

Oh, then I guess you missed this part.




But it's still stupid and cheesy. Doesn't mean I don't think it's necessary.

Actually I did miss that part. But to me the height of silliness is to suggest that anything is stupid or cheesy in a fictitious piece of literature called a "comic book" which suggests that's what's inside is laughable or ridiculous to begin with.

 

[Gamma Ra]

I'm pretty sure all superheroes have a decent body count, regardless of their intent. The Hulk's is just higher than normal because he's known to knock down buildings and ****.

Except apparently it isn't....and again, It supposedly doesn't count when he's mindless.


(But it totally does.)

I will say this.....I don't think it's as high as the Punisher.

This is what I was speaking about with you that you contended. Hulk has a long history in comics close to 50 years and nowhere was it suggested that he left this high body count anywhere... this is no more than fan speculation.

The only time it was stated that Hulk killed people on a rampage was in the story I told you above with the Hulk stripped completely of any humanity something Samson did that he in the comic admitted was his fault, not my fan-boy revisionist history. Also in the Illuminati One Shot, it was stated that Hulk killed innocents during a rampage while helping dismantle a gamma bomb that blew up in his face and caused the rampage, however in the original story Thing stated no one died. Later in Hulk #110 again it was stated Hulk had not killed during the rampage.

FYI Hulk has killed purposely powerful enemies and even blew up a Russian submarine full of soldiers trying to launch an attack and more recently he was definitley trying to kill Arm'Cheddon.

All I ask is to show the evidence from story, not your speculation.

 

[Anubis]

Yeah, Mindless Hulk. Killed a bunch of people. No Banner doing complicated math=body count.

We are in agreement.

Also, every bit of literature has it's own bit of logic. Even super hero comics.

The MU is supposed to be as close to the real world as a world with Super heroes can get. (So they say.)Flawed characters. Complicated lives. Heroes making mistakes. So, yeah, it can be considered silly and cheesy to make it so that all these years, throughout his many rampages, he didn't kill anybody thanks to his subconscious performing complicated math to avoid a body count because the marvel Universe prides itself on it's supposed realism.....but at the same time, it works because at least they explained it. That Banner makes all the difference.

Sounds to me like you're just looking for a fight. We agree....I just agree differently than you do. It's Catholics vs Protestants.

 

[Gamma Ra]

Yeah, Mindless Hulk. Killed a bunch of people. No Banner doing complicated math=body count.

It was not a typical Banner regressed mindless Hulk. At that point in that story whatever the effects of Samson's experiment, it was a Hulk totally void of any sense of humanity or understanding.

We are in agreement.

Not judging by your Punisher statement.

Also, every bit of literature has it's own bit of logic. Even super hero comics.

Here's where we diverge, you are using fan revisionist history, while the comic book world states something completely different. This is why I ask to show me in story your conclusions.

The MU is supposed to be as close to the real world as a world with Super heroes can get. (So they say.)Flawed characters. Complicated lives. Heroes making mistakes. So, yeah, it can be considered silly and cheesy to make it so that all these years, throughout his many rampages, he didn't kill anybody thanks to his subconscious performing complicated math to avoid a body count because the marvel Universe prides itself on it's supposed realism.....but at the same time, it works because at least they explained it. That Banner makes all the difference.

The MU is only close to the "real world" in terms of super heroes having problems like any normal person, as opposed to DC at the time whose characterizations made their heroes larger than life...so we agree there.

I will continue to reinforce that I can show you in story that it has been stated that Hulk's rampages have not caused death, I can't think of any off screen or page rampage that he's been on and no where does it suggest that innocents have been killed. I'm sure there have been injuries to civilians but they are no more than any other hero has caused and that's the extent I'll go until you show me proof of your stance.

Sounds to me like you're just looking for a fight. We agree....I just agree differently than you do. It's Catholics vs Protestants.

What seems to be a minor detail can change a whole scope, it's the reason Jews are not Christians and neither are Muslims and they all share a common base.

 

[moraldeficiency]

What seems to be a minor detail can change a whole scope, it's the reason Jews are not Christians and neither are Muslims and they all share a common base.

Actually it's because the illumaniti needs people to be in conflict so they don't realize the ruling class is slowly eroding their freedoms and reverting them to a slave state.

I'm also pretty sure the subverting the bacon industry which brings happiness and ultimate freedom has something to do with it.

 

[Gamma Ra]

Actually it's because the illumaniti needs people to be in conflict so they don't realize the ruling class is slowly eroding their freedoms and reverting them to a slave state.

I'm also pretty sure the subverting the bacon industry which brings happiness and ultimate freedom has something to do with it.

Let me get this straight...Reed Richards, Namor, Blagatar Bolten, Doctor Strange and Tony Stark are the reason we have all these religious wars...and also they're the reason the price of pork belly is dropping...THOSE DIABOLICAL BASTARDS!!!

 

[BLACKVULCAN]

Actually it's because the illumaniti needs people to be in conflict so they don't realize the ruling class is slowly eroding their freedoms and reverting them to a slave state.

I'm also pretty sure the subverting the bacon industry which brings happiness and ultimate freedom has something to do with it.

i love you MoralD! i always knew there were six degrees of separation between evil corporations and Bacon Fat!

 

[Spider-Aziz]

In real life the Hulk would have a very high body count as a result of just being like a force of nature. If I was given the chance to write a Hulk movie it would be very creepy and scary, like a combination of the original Frankenstein, King Kong and Jaws. It would have a large body count, it would be rated R and it would end with the apparent death of the Hulk.

Your movie would be worse than Ang Lee's, it would make even less money being rated R, and the Hulk Fanboys would burn pictures of you in effigy.

I wouldn't mind watching a movie like that, just change the green skin to Caucasian and call him Extraordinary Hyde

It makes more sense anyway than that super math, destroying occupied buildings would kill thousands

 

[TheCorpulent1]

If they made a movie like that, the Hulk couldn't be an Avenger. You can't turn around and claim as a hero the kind of guy who's recklessly murdered hundreds or thousands. If you did, the Avengers would be the Ultimates or the New Avengers, and either of those scenarios would be terrible.

 

[moraldeficiency]

Let me get this straight...Reed Richards, Namor, Blagatar Bolten, Doctor Strange and Tony Stark are the reason we have all these religious wars...and also they're the reason the price of pork belly is dropping...THOSE DIABOLICAL BASTARDS!!!

No I mean the real illumaniti in the real world.

 

[moraldeficiency]

i love you MoralD! i always knew there were six degrees of separation between evil corporations and Bacon Fat!

Shhhh....tell no one you know or the black helicopters will be coming for you next.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

If they made a movie like that, the Hulk couldn't be an Avenger. You can't turn around and claim as a hero the kind of guy who's recklessly murdered hundreds or thousands. If you did, the Avengers would be the Ultimates or the New Avengers, and either of those scenarios would be terrible.

And Hulk would be horny