How Sad Our Country Is!

[Tangled Web]

Judge the whole country on one place why don't you.

 

[Tangled Web]

But, would you really want to switch Presidents right in the middle of a war?

How about we end this damn war?!

 

[Ghostvirus]

Why should people remember 9/11? The government has made it pretty clear that it has forgotten it.

 

[Leto Atrides]

Six days ago was the 5th anniversary of September 11th, the tragedy that claimed thousands of lives, my fiance and I were driving down a local street in town and happened to pass by a Veteranany Hostpital of which had a small billboard posted out front that is usualy ment to deliver daily messages to the public about its times and services, as we passed by we noticed that instead of the regular messages posted it said "REST IN PEACE STEVE IRWIN".........on 9/11....the anniversary date of thousands this institution chose to acknowledge the death of an Austrailian Crocodile Hunter who made a living off of ****ING with dangerous animals, instead of acknowledging the tragedy that AT ONE TIME touched the lives of so many americans......now as tacky and distatsfull as I thought this was, I understood that it was an animal hospital and I could see some, not much, but some reason for doing this so I let it go......but not three blocks later we passed a church with its own small board on the front lawn, now of course I could suspect to see some testimate, some tribute, some small fraction of sympathy for those who lost their lives five years earlier on this day......right?......NO! As we passed by the church once again I saw "REST IN PEACE STEVE IRWIN, WE WILL MISS YOU"......W.T.F.?

Are we such a pathetic country that celebrities are more important to us that the deaths of thousands?! Have we lost all tact and morality? Why is the death od ONE Austrailian thrillseaker more important than the thousands of men women and children who were killed by terrorist actions on our own soil? This makes me sick, and those of you who know me would know that I am not one of those Right Wing Republicans bashing the libral media, personaly I hate Georgey Boy and I think Cheney need to shoot himself in the face! I love the Media, I loved Steve Irwin, I thought his death was very unfortunate but he made his living off of placing himself in dangerous situations, it wasn't that inexpected! I feel sorry for his family and wish that it didn't happen. he was a wonderfull and energetc, lovely man, but he was a thrill seaker who died from thrillseaking! Not and inocent bystander who decided to take his kids to work with him at the twin towers and had a plane flown into him!

I want to know your feelings on this, are there any others who are as asamed of our country for this?

Are you really expecting people to mourn the same events over and over again into perpetuity? Suddenly the 11th of September has to be a solemn day? Guess what, I hung out and watched a movie and went out to dinner and had a nice time a week ago. Am I desecrating their memory now?

You can't mourn everything forever. If we commerated every day a tragedy happened in history, we'd never stop grieving.

 

[Venom Drool]

this thread sucks a lot

 

[Leto Atrides]

this thread sucks a lot

But your contribution to it is so stellar.

 

[Venom Drool]

i know

 

[Victor Creed]

....on 9/11....the anniversary date of thousands this institution chose to acknowledge the death of an Austrailian Crocodile Hunter who made a living off of ****ING with dangerous animals, instead of acknowledging the tragedy that AT ONE TIME touched the lives of so many americans......now as tacky and distatsfull as I thought this was, I understood that it was an animal hospital and I could see some, not much, but some reason for doing this so I let it go......but not three blocks later we passed a church with its own small board on the front lawn, now of course I could suspect to see some testimate, some tribute, some small fraction of sympathy for those who lost their lives five years earlier on this day......right?......NO! As we passed by the church once again I saw "REST IN PEACE STEVE IRWIN, WE WILL MISS YOU"......W.T.F.?

Are we such a pathetic country that celebrities are more important to us that the deaths of thousands?!

Personally I couldn't care less about 9/11 because the media tried to exploit it as much as they could to get ratings. (This includes the multiple movies, tv specials, etc. that have been aired in multitudes in the past 5 years).

Why is the death od ONE Austrailian thrillseaker more important than the thousands of men women and children who were killed by terrorist actions on our own soil?

He was a wonderfull and energetc, lovely man, but he was a thrill seaker who died from thrillseaking! Not and inocent bystander who decided to take his kids to work with him at the twin towers and had a plane flown into him!

Irwin wasn't going after animals just to get some kind of high by cheating death or facing danger, he was working to get up close with the animals to better educate humans. Considering we have a tendency to misinterpret nature, and kill anything we see as violent or dangerous, it was a noble venture that I would say was a success.

Irwin died so close to the 5 year anniversary but anyone who is pissed off about the fact that people chose to acknowledge his death instead either a)needs to seek counseling, b)is doing it for attention and being totally false, or c)needs to join the military.

The thing that makes Irwin's death such a shock is that in everything he did, he was personal. 9/11 wasn't portrayed as a personal thing, but rather a mass faceless tragedy. Rather than sharing the stories of those involved, they chose to make it more like "it could be someone you know" to gear up for a false sense of patriotism on which to launch a war campaign.

I want to know your feelings on this, are there any others who are as asamed of our country for this?

I am ashamed that this country doesn't correct its own society and has the gall to claim that we need to correct another.

Is it really so bad that some people have chosen to move on and live 5 years later and choose to acknowledge a man who inspired understanding and love for animals, rather than an act of terrorism that shook the nation?

Nobody has forgotten about 9/11 and nobody will, but there comes a time in life when you need to move on. Dwelling on the past doesn't do any good because you forget to live in the present.

 

[Immortalfire]

Steve Irwin fought for animal`s rights,animals which are more important than people.

Lmao

 

[SpideyInATree]

First of all, did you have a bad day or something? Because that was an ANIMAL HOSPITAL! I realize other posters have pointed this out, but I'd like to point it out again, It was a place for SICK ANIMALS! What did Steve Irwin do? OH MY GOD!! His show was...ABOUT ANIMALS!!!

Holy shins, man!

But if you want to talk about sad in this country there is plenty else wrong than what you've gone on about.

You speak of the tragedy that is 9/11, yeah, those people died. What about the tragedy in New Orleans? What about those people who, most of them had NOTHING to begin with, lost what little they had. Some of THOSE people are better off dead.

What about the fact that there are deadly narcotic drugs on our streets. Gangs are at an all time high in this country and automatic weapons are being sold like a pack of cigarettes. But...we've got to LIBERATE IRAQ?!

There are a TON of other sad things than an animal hosptial memorializing a man who was for animals, and not for people who have been mourned five times over now. Everybody is sorry that those people had to die the way they did and the people who bravely risk their lives to save these said people. But if we keep sitting around all depressed about it, didn't the terrorists win?

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Obviously 1 Australian Steve Irwin = 3,000 anonymous Americans

 

[JokerNick]

Six days ago was the 5th anniversary of September 11th, the tragedy that claimed thousands of lives, my fiance and I were driving down a local street in town and happened to pass by a Veteranany Hostpital of which had a small billboard posted out front that is usualy ment to deliver daily messages to the public about its times and services, as we passed by we noticed that instead of the regular messages posted it said "REST IN PEACE STEVE IRWIN".........on 9/11....the anniversary date of thousands this institution chose to acknowledge the death of an Austrailian Crocodile Hunter who made a living off of ****ING with dangerous animals, instead of acknowledging the tragedy that AT ONE TIME touched the lives of so many americans......now as tacky and distatsfull as I thought this was, I understood that it was an animal hospital and I could see some, not much, but some reason for doing this so I let it go......but not three blocks later we passed a church with its own small board on the front lawn, now of course I could suspect to see some testimate, some tribute, some small fraction of sympathy for those who lost their lives five years earlier on this day......right?......NO! As we passed by the church once again I saw "REST IN PEACE STEVE IRWIN, WE WILL MISS YOU"......W.T.F.?

Are we such a pathetic country that celebrities are more important to us that the deaths of thousands?! Have we lost all tact and morality? Why is the death od ONE Austrailian thrillseaker more important than the thousands of men women and children who were killed by terrorist actions on our own soil? This makes me sick, and those of you who know me would know that I am not one of those Right Wing Republicans bashing the libral media, personaly I hate Georgey Boy and I think Cheney need to shoot himself in the face! I love the Media, I loved Steve Irwin, I thought his death was very unfortunate but he made his living off of placing himself in dangerous situations, it wasn't that inexpected! I feel sorry for his family and wish that it didn't happen. he was a wonderfull and energetc, lovely man, but he was a thrill seaker who died from thrillseaking! Not and inocent bystander who decided to take his kids to work with him at the twin towers and had a plane flown into him!

I want to know your feelings on this, are there any others who are as asamed of our country for this?

if there's one thing you should have got out of 9/11, it is how trival some aspects of life can be, when 9/11 happened, america came together, all our little differences, all our little problems, were forgotten, it really showed people how life is fragile... so for you, on 9/11, to get so upset over something so trival, is stupid.... let it go, who cares, because in the short amount of time we have to spend on the earth, why get so worked up over something so small and meaningless..... get over it, go ride a bike or something, enjoy life instead of complaining

 

[JokerNick]

Steve Irwin fought for animal`s rights,animals which are more important than people.

lol


nuke the whales

in the words of Nelson, "we gotta nuke something"

 

[Knightsaber Priss]

You know, it does seem kind of odd to me that people have deified Steve Irwin who was killed by his own decisions to be a risk taker while people who innocently died at the hands of very evil people, some of them not just terrorists, have been all but ignored.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

Six days ago was the 5th anniversary of September 11th, the tragedy that claimed thousands of lives, my fiance and I were driving down a local street in town and happened to pass by a Veteranany Hostpital of which had a small billboard posted out front that is usualy ment to deliver daily messages to the public about its times and services, as we passed by we noticed that instead of the regular messages posted it said "REST IN PEACE STEVE IRWIN".........on 9/11....the anniversary date of thousands this institution chose to acknowledge the death of an Austrailian Crocodile Hunter who made a living off of ****ING with dangerous animals, instead of acknowledging the tragedy that AT ONE TIME touched the lives of so many americans......now as tacky and distatsfull as I thought this was, I understood that it was an animal hospital and I could see some, not much, but some reason for doing this so I let it go......but not three blocks later we passed a church with its own small board on the front lawn, now of course I could suspect to see some testimate, some tribute, some small fraction of sympathy for those who lost their lives five years earlier on this day......right?......NO! As we passed by the church once again I saw "REST IN PEACE STEVE IRWIN, WE WILL MISS YOU"......W.T.F.?

Are we such a pathetic country that celebrities are more important to us that the deaths of thousands?! Have we lost all tact and morality? Why is the death od ONE Austrailian thrillseaker more important than the thousands of men women and children who were killed by terrorist actions on our own soil? This makes me sick, and those of you who know me would know that I am not one of those Right Wing Republicans bashing the libral media, personaly I hate Georgey Boy and I think Cheney need to shoot himself in the face! I love the Media, I loved Steve Irwin, I thought his death was very unfortunate but he made his living off of placing himself in dangerous situations, it wasn't that inexpected! I feel sorry for his family and wish that it didn't happen. he was a wonderfull and energetc, lovely man, but he was a thrill seaker who died from thrillseaking! Not and inocent bystander who decided to take his kids to work with him at the twin towers and had a plane flown into him!

I want to know your feelings on this, are there any others who are as asamed of our country for this?

actually, I think that steve irwin was beloved because of his iwn love of nature, he wasn't exactly red carpet material.
also, 9-11 happened 5 years ago, steve died like 2 weeks ago.
either way, it's morbid.

 

[November Rain]

I think the main point of this all is that you don't have the right to tell people what to feel and who to mourn.

no life is more important than another, stever irwin memorials have just as much right as any individual who died on that day, or any other day.

 

[Logan Howlett]

As I said before, my point is not that people should not mourn the death of Steve Irwin, but at least in my opinion the deaths of thousands should take president over the death of one Austrailian thrillseaker. Many of you may not agree with me, Victor Creed included of whom is my best friend, and you have the right not to. The fact that my best friend has a completely differnt opinion should show you that I'm not some intolerant high horsed preacher, but this is my opinion and I have seen some of you that share in it, but other of you blatantly attack.

As far as those that pointed out "it was an animal hospital get over it" I already said that I could see some sense in that, but as I passed a church, a religious institution, the fact that it was more important for them to acknoledge the death of a celebrity over the thousands of innocent lives that were lost was shocking and apauling to me.

Steve Irwin was cool, intertaining, humorous, and a great advocate of animal rights...but...he was not murdered, he was not forced to lose his life, he placed himself in a dangerous situation full well knowing the consequences of his actions. We celebrate holidays of great trial, tribulation, and loss....yet that is only out of habbit, we celebrate independence day but only as a day to drink and shoot fireworks, how many people actualy celebrate to comemorate the loss of so many lives so that we now have our freedom? Do you, do I....no. I'm not saying I am any better, hell on 9/11 I was on my way to go drinking wth some friends after seeing a movie. I'm not claiming supiriority, I'm saying as a country, as a whole, we have been dumbed down, and numbed out! We see loss and care for a brief moment as long as it doesn't directly effect us than we forget or stop caring.

Let me ask....why hasn't 9/11 been made into a national memorial holiday? Officialy, why hasn't it been nationaly acknoledge as much as July 4th, or Labor day, or and Presidents Birthday??? WHY? Becuase the government can't make as much money off of it, because people don't spend as much money if their crying.

And someone else brought up a valid point about Hurricane Katrina. It IS just as important toa acknoledge that event, as well as the political problems our nation is facing, but I was just trying to point out one particular instance. If you want me to go off on political figures I can....hell I once made a thread about having an election between George Bush and Lex Luthor...AND LUTHOR WON! But this is just for what it is, to point out the way we have been numbed out and dumbed down.

 

[Logan Howlett]

Oh and one more thing, just thought I'd do a little quote from Marylin Manson that I just thought would fit here.

"the death of one is a tragedy
the death of one is a tragedy
the death of one is a tragedy
but death of a million is just a statistic"

 

[Leto Atrides]

Let me ask....why hasn't 9/11 been made into a national memorial holiday? Officialy, why hasn't it been nationaly acknoledge as much as July 4th, or Labor day, or and Presidents Birthday??? WHY? Becuase the government can't make as much money off of it, because people don't spend as much money if their crying.

Those holidays are to commemorate accomplishments. Independence from England, the everyday man's toil, the actions of the President's term. 9/11 was a senseless tragedy. People were going about their daily lives, and they were killed. Even things like Memorial Day, where it is a time to commerate the dead, is for what they were doing when they died.

They are completely different things.

BTW getting on your high horse isn't the best idea if you don't even know the difference between "precedent" and "president".

 

[Darthphere]

Oh and one more thing, just thought I'd do a little quote from Marylin Manson that I just thought would fit here.

"the death of one is a tragedy
the death of one is a tragedy
the death of one is a tragedy
but death of a million is just a statistic"

Dude, youre ****ing quoting Marylin Manson, thats not going to help your cause at all.

 

[Darthphere]

Let me ask....why hasn't 9/11 been made into a national memorial holiday? Officialy, why hasn't it been nationaly acknoledge as much as July 4th, or Labor day, or and Presidents Birthday??? WHY? Becuase the government can't make as much money off of it, because people don't spend as much money if their crying.

This is ****ing stupid, you know why? This is what happens.

Teenage Boy: Yo, school's off tomorrow its 9/11.
Teenage Boy 2: For real? Awesome, lets hit the beach!

Talk about respect right.

 

[Jager X]

Noone forced Steve Irwin to involve himself with animals the way he did AND noone forced those 3,000 or so victims to work at the WTC. They died doing their jobs. Also I found myself remembering Steve Irwin more than 9/11 because a) I witnessed him take on a dangerous job to teach me how to respect nature and its animals, b) I don't even know how any of the 9/11 victims looked, and c) I'm too damn tired of having 9/11 shoved down my throat to care.

 

[Tangled Web]

You guys need to show some ***ing respect for the victims of 9/11. I don't give a damn if you don't know them, they're people for Christ's sake, people with families.

 

[kingman]

You guys need to show some ***ing respect for the victims of 9/11. I don't give a damn if you don't know them, they're people for Christ's sake, people with families.

So was Steve Irwin... another person with a very young family who had his life taken away from him in unnatural circumstances... but there are also the millions who die every day because no one wants to help them so are we gonna remember those people too?

Terrorism exists and has done so way before 9/11... many people have needlessly died but no one wants to remember them, can you even name an act of terrorism from before that day?

I know of plenty... I know people who could be classed as terrorists, hell who knows they might have been involved in bombings or shootings but that's life, 9/11 was huge sure, Steve Irwin's death was also a big thing and those people who have died from all acts of terrorism all deserve to be remembered... but it's up to the people to choose who they want to mourn so that's the way it will always be

 

[Tangled Web]

So was Steve Irwin... another person with a very young family who had his life taken away from him in unnatural circumstances... but there are also the millions who die every day because no one wants to help them so are we gonna remember those people too?

Terrorism exists and has done so way before 9/11... many people have needlessly died but no one wants to remember them, can you even name an act of terrorism from before that day?

I know of plenty... I know people who could be classed as terrorists, hell who knows they might have been involved in bombings or shootings but that's life, 9/11 was huge sure, Steve Irwin's death was also a big thing and those people who have died from all acts of terrorism all deserve to be remembered... but it's up to the people to choose who they want to mourn so that's the way it will always be

I never said there was anything wrong with mourning Steve Irwin. I just said that you shouldn't downplay the deaths of 9/11 victims.