Artistsean
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We are not saying we want Batman dead. Its not like anyone here is saying "I hate Batman, I always liked the Joker better. Kill Batman, long live bad guys!" We are saying it might make a good story to kill off this version of Batman. He isn't the real Batman. Its like killing off an alternate reality Batman. It might be a interesting take and might change superhero movies to show that they are more than just popcorn action flicks where the heroes live on and on and there is always a sequel and no substance. Not saying his death would add substance. It would just show something revolutionary in a superhero film, having the hero die. We would still have the comics, still have the cartoon, and still have the next crop of Batman films by another director. maybe the next version of Batman would be more cartoony and get used as in the JLA film. This is Nolan's LAST Batman film, after this Bale is probably out, and Nolan is out, they will reboot the franchise in another direction. Sort of starting all over anyway.Why the **** would you want Batman to die? You can't kill a iconic character just cos it looks different. If Nolan does not return for fourth then someone else should take over with their own vision not trying to copy Nolan's.
There are reasonable arguments why killing off Batman would make a good movie and why it wouldn't hurt the Batman brand or the franchise. But, like always, I am not saying I want him dead either. I am just saying those who like the idea that Batman might die in the movies aren't traitors or morons. Neither are those who want him not to die. Clearly there are people who feel that his death wouldn't make a good story or wouldn't fit with the character or maybe just wouldn't sit right with them. I was asking what people would like to see or accept.
I can see his death working if Alfred covers it up, maybe with the aid of Gordon, Fox, and maybe Selena Kyle. No one knows that Bruce was Batman and they think Batman is still alive and catching criminals every night. (his symbol never dies) Gordon even shows the signal once in a while. It would show that Bruce's Batman will never die. But we would also need to see that the people of Gotham can fend for themselves now.
If Bruce revealed himself it would destroy the symbol he created for the city. "As a man I can be killed, but as a symbol..." As a symbol he wont die, even after he dies in real life Batman's myth will live on. (If no one knows he died. Reveal who is behind the mask to the city, then Batman goes back to being just a man who can be hurt and who is subject to the same weaknesses all humans are.I don't see Bats dying.
I see his redemption in the third film because of his "fall" in TDK. A story doesn't have to end with the death of the major character, it ends with resolving the conflict that character was facing.
I could see someone like the Riddler getting the upper hand on Bats, and possibly forcing him to unmask in public, and admit who he is. I don'tknow if that would stop Wayne from being Bats, or if he would simply go on being Bats...
I could see him dying, not saying he should. But I could see Nolan having him die. But maybe WB wouldn't let him take such a risk with a major property like that. But then again...
Besides the death idea (which is hinted at all over the other 2 movies) I do see redemption as an idea too.
Realistically Bruce had no idea how deep he would be going when he jumped into being Batman. He propbably never imagined having to deal with things like the Joker and the events of Dark Knight. Dark Knight, and perhaps the fall out of the Dark Knight in part 3, would be the low point in his career as Batman.
We see him become Batman in Begins, starting out on a high. We see the events of the Dark Knight (a low), and the ramifications of that in part 3 (still low) and by the end of part 3 he redeems himself (back to high).
I don't know how the bad guy would fit either, Nolan picks a bad guy for the story and not a story for the bad guy. So maybe he will pick the Riddler and maybe he wont, maybe we will see some like Talia teamed up with Poison Ivy. But I do think adding Catwoman, as a love interest, could work into a story too.
This is all just fun speculation though. Its like asking what the next version of Batman should be like once Nolan is out and another director takes over the Batman franchise with new films.
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