spider_rob
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Have one of the lead actors die right before the movie comes out.
Have one of the lead actors die right before the movie comes out.
Give them a good movie, with a strong script, good acting, decent action scenes and a modern take on what they perceive as an outdated character.
People still want to see Superman, classic costume AND \S/ and S-curl and all.
Change that and you will pay for it by having another failure of a Superman movie.
have the teaser be as follows:
From the filmmakers of Inception,batman begins the dark knight and the dark knight rises and the visionary director that brought you 300 watchmen and sucker punch.....
zod throwing a punch in slow mo but you don't see at who
A reimagioning of America's most Iconic superhero...
a fist with a blue sleeve punching Zod a fast zoom out showing the massive shockwave making blocks of a major city crumble...
The Man of Steel as you've never seen him before....
A shot of superman after the punch flying towards the screen
Forget everything you know about Superman
coming Christmas 2012
Have one of the lead actors die right before the movie comes out.
I'm always fascinated by the Pirates argument. You know, I think everyone has always misinterpreted the Pirates/Superman correlation. I don't think Pirates hurt Superman. I think the poor quality of Superman Returns helped Pirates. Pirates was the only thing that summer that delivered a fun, light, action packed experience. Mission: Impossible III, while good, was the darkest Mission movie, X3 sucked out loud and Superman Returns was dour and dark. In any other summer Pirates would have done good, but not a billion dollars good.
Which, I think, is the biggest thing to make sure of when making a Superman movie. You can tell as deep a story as you want, but at the end of the day, it has to be fun as well. Superman Returns had zero fun.
Why are you so fascinated by it? It's pretty straight forward...
What we are looking at is BOX OFFICE RECEIPTS, It's not unusual for a movie to perform its best in its first few weeks of release. But if you release a movie, like SR, that has any doubt or amount of mystery involved with it, followed by the sequel to one of the biggest family movies ever, its bound to get lost in there...
Imagine if Pirates 5 or Shrek 7 comes out a week later than Batman, do you think it will make a differance? F**k yeah it will, cause everybody will flock to see what is familiiar and what they love, not take a chance even if it seems okay...
just how crazy would you have to be to use Sucker Punch to promote superman?From the filmmakers of Inception,batman begins the dark knight and the dark knight rises and the visionary director that brought you 300 watchmen and sucker punch.....
Or here's an idea... Maybe they could go and see all three!
I don't understand why people discuss things like this as though people had to choose between Superman Returns and Pirates... If Superman had been a really good movie, people would have gone to see it... AS WELL as Pirates.
Really... That's what you would do in this situation? You would have just gone and seen SR, then paid for a ticket to Pirates?.
Here's the problem, movie nerds like you and I will do that, but Joe and Jane Q. Public want to see a movie to make themselves and their kids happy. And holy crap!, that first Pirates movie was good... They're not going to go and see SR ater that...
You are 100% out of line to say Pirates had no effect on SR's BO receipts...
I really hope they use the "Nolan way" on this one. The the film's crew will respect the essence of the character but will feel free to adapt it's mythology for the 21st century.
To be perfectly honest, Nolan didn't change that much about batman. He just took the next logical step after B89 franchise had devolved into madness. IMO, his major contribution was to remove all camp from his franchise, while sticking to the main theme. He just delivered what had been written in the comics for a number of years.
The key to success is word of mouth. That starts with the fanboys, because it is they who have been waiting, it is they who will scrutinize and judge the film. If that word is good, then it will trickle down to the GA.
I think 'modernising' should be stayed away from because people use it as a cover word for 'make cooler' sometimes, and there is no need to make Superman cooler.
I think the only change that needs to happen in that sense is the world it is set in. It needs modernising to make it more relavent IMO.
indeed. I use the word in a negative sense, because it is those who want a new 'modern' costume and the like that bother me. Like I said, SR had all the right pieces, the problem was the story those pieces were used in that were its failure.
IMO, change is not the key to a successful superman film, what is needed is a writer who understands both the character and what the audience wants out of a superman film (not what they, the writer wants, that was the failure of SR).
I think you're overestimating the importance of the fanbase. I have the X-Men First Class example in mind when it comes to a recent film with great feedback from fans, impressive word of mouth but disappointing to average results at the B.O.
I heard and read fanboys saying the same about Nolan's Batman.
Yet The Dark Knight grossed over 1 billion dollars.
Meaning that GA doesn't give a f*** about classic costumes, logos and stuff as ridiculous as an haircut (wich a lot a of comic version dropped btw).
Give them a good movie, with a strong script, good acting, decent action scenes and a modern take on what they perceive as an outdated character. They'll go see it even though it's considered as revisionist or deconstructionist by a few fanboys (who will strangely go see the movie several times no matter what).
I really hope they use the "Nolan way" on this one. The the film's crew will respect the essence of the character but will feel free to adapt it's mythology for the 21st century.