How would describe your experience here before the movie drops

[Quasar]

Maybe it'd be easier to list the similarities between this movie and what's unique to Ultimate FF (as opposed to 616). Let's see, Doom gets his powers in the same accident as the FF. Anything else?

 

[Drz]

I can't believe posters here are STILL making that BS "Ultimate Fantastic Four" argument after being disproven about that multiple times.

How is it ******** when Josh Trank himself said so JUST A FEW DAYS AGO on Fatman on Batman.

 

[Eddie]

Josh Trank also says he quit Star Wars by choice. Maybe take his words with a grain of salt.

 

[GR8GODZILLAGOD]

How is it ******** when Josh Trank himself said so JUST A FEW DAYS AGO on Fatman on Batman.

Must I redirect you to the list of major differences that was JUST posted on the previous page? Just because he said it was doesn't make it true. Shocking, I know.

 

[the gael]

How is it ******** when Josh Trank himself said so JUST A FEW DAYS AGO on Fatman on Batman.

Josh Trank said that Miles Teller was never in talk to play Reed Richards...

 

[Orba]

Josh Trank said that Miles Teller was never in talk to play Reed Richards...

While Miles Tellar says he was the only person Trank wanted for the part.

 

[marvelmadness13]

How is it ******** when Josh Trank himself said so JUST A FEW DAYS AGO on Fatman on Batman.

Trank has said a lot of things.

Like how he told Kate Mara not to read the comics because this film would not be based on any comic that has been published.

 

[Greens]

A trainwreck. Hilarious and tragic at the same time.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Maybe it'd be easier to list the similarities between this movie and what's unique to Ultimate FF (as opposed to 616). Let's see, Doom gets his powers in the same accident as the FF. Anything else?

Baxter Institute run by Franklin Storm
Dooms a programmer working at the Baxter institute.
Dooms look and abilities matches more to UFF than any other version
They're ages match closer to UFF than any other version
Sue is a scientist as the Baxter institute
Franklin Storm recruits Reed
The origin of their powers is the same as UFF
The military gets involved

I can't believe posters here are STILL making that BS "Ultimate Fantastic Four" argument after being disproven about that multiple times.

To deny the influence UFF has on the movies is to deny reality. Even if someone involved has said or was to say it's not based on UFF it wouldn't change the fact the the plot is the exact same as well as those listed above.

 

[marvelmadness13]

Dooms a programmer working at the Baxter institute.
Dooms look matches more to UFF than 616
They're ages match closer to UFF than 616
Sue is a scientist as the Baxter institute
Franklin Storm recruits Reed
The origin of their powers is the same as UFF
The military gets involved

No, he was a scientist not a programmer. He also wasn't named Domashev.

No, Ultimate Doom looks like 616 Doom with goat legs.

No, they're older than the UF4. Average age of this cast is the same as the Story films.

That's one tiny, insignificant similarity.

That's two tiny, insignificant similarities.

No, in Ultimate F4 there are no pods and they never go to the N Zone and explore it. They stand in front of a Stargate look alike and it explodes, then they wake up with powers. Not even close.

That's literally happened in every comic book at some point. It's not specific to UF4 or even Marvel.

o deny the influence UFF has on the movies is to deny reality. Even if someone involved has said or was to say it's not based on UFF it wouldn't change the fact the the plot is the exact same as well as those listed above.

Considering that as you can see above it doesn't follow any of it, who's denying reality...?

 

[Sleiek]

You guys do know this is the film maker's version of Fantastic Four that has certain influences from the comics?

This is not an outright rip of the comics. You guys should've realized it right when they said they wanted to go for "dark and gritty". Some of you did, but some apparently didn't.

 

[C. Lee]

I can't believe posters here are STILL making that BS "Ultimate Fantastic Four" argument after being disproven about that multiple times.

Really? To me and many others it looks way more like UFF than original FF....and that is the reason the majority of people who oppose it are doing so.

 

[Drz]

Josh Trank is literally the only director in this board who is questioned when he cites comic examples, when he clearly knows what he's talking about and what he's referencing. >______< I mean no Offense to anyone, but c'mon the Ultimate influence is real and he just talked about it with Kevin Smith and the Trailers just reeks of Ultimate Marvel.

 

[Eddie]

You don't say. Why, it's almost as though doing Trank's version of the Fantastic Four is the problem.

 

[marvelrobbins]

terrable for those who kept open mind and want to see film.

If i like FF after seeing it this weekend it won't matter to me how final box office and certain ones oporions are.I will always like superman return and director's cut of daredevil no matter what others think.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

I feel like all of the FF films have been heavily influenced by UFF. Even Story's films which tried to lean more 616 totally mischaracterized Reed and made him very nerdy and insecure. In fact that whole horrible nerd speech he gave in ROTSS is lifted verbatim from the Ultimate "Gah-lak-tus" trilogy. And Galactus clearly was not 616.

 

[marvelmadness13]

Josh Trank is literally the only director in this board who is questioned when he cites comic examples, when he clearly knows what he's talking about and what he's referencing. >______< I mean no Offense to anyone, but c'mon the Ultimate influence is real and he just talked about it with Kevin Smith and the Trailers just reeks of Ultimate Marvel.

If Joss Whedon said Age of Ultron was heavily influenced by Marvel 1602 he'd be called out just as much, as those claims are both equally untrue.

The only thing this shares with UF4 is two miniscule and unimportant details. That being Sue is a scientist and Franklin recruits Reed. Myself and other posters have shown countless times that literally nothing else in this is based on UF4. It's all a Trank Original.

 

[C. Lee]

You guys do know this is the film maker's version of Fantastic Four that has certain influences from the comics?

This is not an outright rip of the comics. You guys should've realized it right when they said they wanted to go for "dark and gritty". Some of you did, but some apparently didn't.

Yes.....many of us realized this was JOSH TRANK'S FANTASTIC FOUR not MARVEL'S FANTASTIC FOUR.....and that has been the problem all the time. The FF are not meant to be dark and gritty. The majority of comic readers did not like the UFF. The majority of comic readers have wanted an accurate original FF and Doom enterpretation.

 

[Tony Stark]

I feel like all of the FF films have been heavily influenced by UFF. Even Story's films which tried to lean more 616 totally mischaracterized Reed and made him very nerdy and insecure. In fact that whole horrible nerd speech he gave in ROTSS is lifted verbatim from the Ultimate "Gah-lak-tus" trilogy. And Galactus clearly was not 616.

I remember an interview with Story at the time when he was still writing ROTSS, talking about how much he loved the Ultimate books.

The whole Reed nerd thing, really bothered me too. Reed is not a nerd, he's the Stephen Hawking of the Marvel Universe.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Really? To me and many others it looks way more like UFF than original FF....and that is the reason the majority of people who oppose it are doing so.

Being annoyed that it's not 616-based is perfectly understandable and I know that's your one of your main issues with the movie but those saying it bears no resemblance to Fantastic Four are being intentionally obtuse.

It's not supposed to resemble 616 as its based on UFF and so should be compared to the correct source material.

People don't look at Nick Fury and compare him to 616 Fury because they know and accept he's based on UFF Fury so they compare to the correct source material. Same should apply to this and not to a version it's not supposed to look like.

 

[Sleiek]

Yes.....many of us realized this was JOSH TRANK'S FANTASTIC FOUR not MARVEL'S FANTASTIC FOUR.....and that has been the problem all the time. The FF are not meant to be dark and gritty. The majority of comic readers did not like the UFF. The majority of comic readers have wanted an accurate original FF and Doom enterpretation.

Exactly. It just seems to me some here think that this is a full adaptation of UFF as I see comparisons being made here with those comics. It has some influences but definitely not the same thing. And we already know this film is even further away from the original comics.

 

[marvelmadness13]

Being annoyed that it's not 616-based is perfectly understandable and I know that's your one of your main issues with the movie but those saying it bears no resemblance to Fantastic Four are being intentionally obtuse.

It's not supposed to resemble 616 as its based on UFF and so should be compared to the correct source material.

People don't look at Nick Fury and compare him to 616 Fury because they know and accept he's based on UFF Fury so they compare to the correct source material. Same should apply to this and not to a version it's not supposed to look like.

Are you not reading my replies? We are comparing it to the Ultimate F4 and it has nothing in common with that either...

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

I remember an interview with Story at the time when he was still writing ROTSS, talking about how much he loved the Ultimate books.

The whole Reed nerd thing, really bothered me too. Reed is not a nerd, he's the Stephen Hawking of the Marvel Universe.

Yes - I abhor the way Reed was handled in the last two Fox films but this one looks even worse.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Exactly. It just seems to me some here think that this is a full adaptation of UFF as I see comparisons being made here with those comics. It has some influences but definitely not the same thing. And we already know this film is even further away from the original comics.

If you're referring to me I never said it was 100% accurate just that it's based on UFF retains the core elements of that version.

All comic book movies make changes, even Sin City and Watchmen which are the most accurate have changes.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

In UFF, Ben and Reed grew up in NYC - in this film they appear to be in some sort of rural town.

In UFF, Reed was sent to the Baxter building at a young age - in this film he appears to go there when he is a young adult.

In Uff, Ben was a tall, muscular football player - in this film he is a skinny, short baseball player.

In Uff, Victor Van Damme was a wealthy descendant of Dracula - in this film he's Victor Domashev and he is poor and adopted by Franklin Storm.

In Uff, Johnny and Sue were brother and sister - in this film, Sue is adopted from Kosovo.

In Uff, Arthur Molekevic was a major character who became Moleman - in this film there is no Arthur Molevic and instead we get Harvey elder which was the name of a completely different 616 character who became Moleman.

In the UFF, they didn't travel to and explore the N-Zone. The device blew up when it was turned on - In this film, a primary plot point seems to be the travel to and exploration of the N-Zone

In UFF, they weren't held captive by the government and they weren't used as weapons by the government - That seems to be a major plot point of the film.

In UFF, they didn't struggle to deal with their powers and they didn't need "containment suits" - That seems to be a major element of the film.

In UFF, Van Damme grew organic armor with goat legs and breathed some sort of poison gas and other silly crap - In this film, he doesn't look even vaguely like the UFF version and his powers seem very different.

In UFF, Van Damme went to Denmark and became leader of some group of homeless people - In this film he seems to travel to (and possibly get trapped in) the N-Zone where he poses some non-specific threat the FF must fight.

In UFF, Ben looked like the Thing, with smooth, regular plates, 3 fingers and a thumb, etc. - In this film, he's a rough, lumpy rock creature that only looks superficially like the Thing.

In UFF, BEN wore PANTS - Nuff said

In UFF, The FF wore blue uniforms






. . . to name a few quick things off the top of my head that are clearly different from UFF from the little bit we've seen and heard so far. I'm sure there's much more drastic departures in the actual film that we just don't know much about yet.