How would you continue from here?

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With the film's lack of success, how would you continue Green Lantern's cinematic career?

Honestly, I would move onto other heroes. I would get a Flash movie up and running after the Superman film and then move on to Wonder Woman and Aquaman. Then I'd have a Justice League film with Green Lantern and those other heroes in it. I think Marvel made a mistake making another Hulk film so soon after the first film and I think WB will be making a similar mistake with Green Lantern if they do the same thing. Let a Justice League film rekindle interest in the character after time off spent on another heroes and then continue with a sequel that's set mostly in space with Sinestro as the villain. Maybe even have Kyle, Guy or John as the Green Lantern in the JLA film and the second film to make it somewhat of a fresh start as well.
 
I mostly agree with moving on to Flash, Wonder Woman, and Aquaman. I also think WB should move forward on a Justice League film and just have GL reintroduced into that. Though I would probably use John Stewart. I would hope the JL film pretty much ripped off the JL/JLU cartoon.

Depending on the success of the JL movie, I would probably spin off the John Stewart character. As for villain, not sure. I wouldn't mind seeing Legion, Black Hand, Fatality, Manhunters. Sinestro would be great, but he doesn't have the same history with Stewart.
 
I'd love for them to go ahead with a sequel and give us either Sinestro and the genesis of his Corps, or the Manhunters and Hal's overthrow of Sinestro on Korugar ala Emerald Dawn II. But they should give it a few years, let Timm's GL:TAS really make the character shine, then iron out all the kinks.

They'll want to have Carol somehow, and the only way to make the work without tying things down on earth is to make her a Star Sapphire. I just worry that with a glowing green hero, a glowing yellow villain and a glowing purple villainess/hero it's going to look even more ridiculous to people that thought it looked ridiculous in the first place.
 
Move forward, give it three to five years for people to forget the flaws. Director's cut on DVD, GL in pop culture again. Show the hero humbled in trailers and really 'earning' his power, and plenty of action. Keep the budget low and tight, even shoot the space scenes ala Sky Captain/300 with CGI backdrops. Allow it to be surreal instead of photorealistic, again, mostly to save cash.

Storywise, Manhunters, and Sinestro as the main villains. Manhunters cause problems from the beginning and reveal Sinestro as a villain in the second act. Hal uses Sinestro's discarded Green ring to recruit John Stewart to help stave of the Manhunters on earth, then Hal heads to Oa for a final bash against Sinestro. Carol is still the female lead because

I'm divided on whether or not to include the Sinestro Corps, or set them up for a threequel, perhaps the defeated Sinestro meets The Weaponer in the post credits and begins forging more rings. Trying to build the sinestro corps and make the Manhunters scary and epic might be a bit too busy, so perhaps I'll pass.

If that's a improbably runaway success, do a LOTR all at once trilogy with a stripped-down, more logically and emotionally sound War of Light/Blackest Night (ie, 1 or 2 lanterns per other Corps). Making the GL series a Quintilogy)

If the movie is just moderately successful, finish the trilogy with the Sinestro Corps (which is how Guy Gardner gets involved), Hal sacrificing himself to become Parallax to save everyone, with Evil Star->>Star Sapphire as the emotionally developed villain.
 
Give three years, and pull a Wrath of Khan comeback in which you reference the first movie but act as a standalone.
 
Give three years, and pull a Wrath of Khan comeback in which you reference the first movie but act as a standalone.

Yeah, that's how you probably have to go if you want to have a Green Lantern movie anytime soon. Realistically I don't think we'll see GL again until a Justice League movie though...

I'd like to see a badass sequel. While the movie wasn't very good, I still think there was potential there, and didn't hate the cast.

That said, the movie was a pretty big flop and I don't expect to see another GL movie in this continuity. We'll probably see John Stewart in a GL movie.
 
Move on and try and let people recover from the last one.
 
I've been giving this a lot of thought recently. You have a few approaches depending on the film maker that each have their pros and cons.

First off, full reboot or continuation. If full reboot then do you stick with Hal or focus on another of earth's lanterns, Kyle, John, or Guy? If you stick with Hal do you keep Reynolds or recast?

Primarily the struggle they face is to convince the audience that this is better than the previous film, worth spending your money on and that you won't be disappointed. That's a hard sale...but it can work.

Think of the bad taste that was left in everyone's mouth after Batman and Robin. Did anyone really think live action Batman films would make such a huge comeback? But they did with a proper reboot. In that case they allowed time to pass, let the bad taste go away then reboot.

Hulk was another story. The first movie bombed. They did a subtle reboot that didn't retread the ground of the first but moved it forward. While it wasn't a huge success it repositioned the character for the Marvel universe films and better satisfied fans, it gave them more of what they expected from the Hulk. Then look at Avengers, Hulk was the breakout star. Full rehabilitation for a character they thought was no longer marketable.

So can it be done...yes...but can they do it with GL...we'll see.

I think a major question when considering how to move forward is "was there anything so fundamentally bad in the first film that needs to be retconned out of existence? If so can we do it subtly or does it require a complete re-introduction of the character and mythos"? The issue with re-introducing the entire mythos is why would that attract an audience again? We just saw the intro do we need to see it again?

With reboots, at least in the case of Batman, Hulk and now Spider-man, they covered ground the previous film or films didn't. So there is room for the reboot, worthwhile territory to mine that is untapped. Would that be the case with a GL full reboot? What really needs rehabilitation? His origin, powers, designs or could the problems be addressed by simply making a great sequel?
 
So how should they approach GL...the jury is still out (by that I mean I really don't know :huh:).

As far as convincing the audience that the new film is different and worth seeing...the only thing that would really do that imho is to either recast Hal or use a different GL, John Stewart in particular. With Stewart you can tap into a whole lot of people who watched the animated JLU cartoon and probably thought GL was black anyway. And while I don't know who they would cast you could potentially draw in a different audience depending on how popular of an actor they cast. While this could work with Guy or Kyle too, I think John brings a clearer message of this is different now for no other reason that him being black, and the number of superhero movies staring a black lead are few.

Aside from that just thinking about what worked and didn't work from the first film, ie what needs the most rehabilitation...I think it's Hal, the tone, character development, etc. None of which require a full on reboot. Also how exactly did people react to the film? Is it as bad as some on these boards say or was it more "meh...it was ok but not great" sort of deal, like the Fantastic Four or something similar? Or was there real outright, "I hate this movie" from the general audiences? B/c I saw that Ryan Reynolds won the kid's choice award for best superhero back when the film came out so some people must not have hated it. If the GA weren't impressed but didn't hate it, then I thiink you could move forward with a sequel but just focus on what will make the film stand out as different this time around and convince them tonally that it's worth their time and money.

If making a sequel I would focus on improving some of the designs. In some ways i think they alienated the audience by being too alien. Redesign Oa, so that it looks less abstract and more impressive, like asgard from Thor. You want people to be in awe of this place and enjoy the scenes there instead of being uncomfortable or uninterested. Make more practical sets this to ground the film and make those space scenes more interesting. Use practical suits, it will help sell the reality of the place and I think improve performances as well. I think those aesthetic changes would at least visually show the audience that "hey we listened and we've improved".

2nd focus on the tone. Make it more interesting. Give is a grand scifi space drama vibe instead of a superhero one. Plenty of successful scifi films took place off earth and weren't hurt by it. Why? Because they had well developed plots. GL was all over the place, unfocused and undeveloped. Really focus on his relationships in this scifi world. Make the aliens interesting but not repulsive. star wars and plenty of other scifi films have given us proper aliens who were also very likable and made you want to see more. Yet not a single alien GL seemed that interesting, other than Kilowag, Sinestro (who's basically human) and Tomar Re.

Also I think with the new GL cartoon is testing the public and building a receptive audience. Now you have proof that it's not GL but simply the the film iteration that didn't resonate with audiences. If they continue to test ideas with that cartoon, get a good feel of what people expect from GL and deliver that, then I think even if we don't a full on amazing film we'll at least get our version of Incredible Hulk. A film that delivered the good properly and setup the character for the future.
 
They should do something new, not even Marvel has ever done yet: Emerald Twilight.
Make Hal lose his city and go insane in trying to bring it back, killing the corps and the Guardians, becoming a villain and introduce Kyle Rayner.
 
Maybe they should just make him Gay. They could keep Ryan Reynolds. And do a movie about a Gay superhero. Then see if the public wants to see that.
 
Look - the problem with the movie was that they spend so much money on the CGI that they couldn't do an epic battle with Hector Hammond or Parallax. Ryan Reynolds may have not been my choice for Hal but he turned in a respectable performance.

The OA scenes were magnificient and I wouldn't change a thing about that or the costumes and definitley not Sinestro or the other green lanters. Even the Guardians were fantastic to look at. Tomar-Re was never as interesting to me as he was in the Movie.

People are dismissing this film way too quickly. I think they should move forward soon to do a sequel. Just shore up the deficiencies and get that franchise going.
 
Im serious, why dont they use the next movie to do a Gay Superhero movie. Didnt they just announce that the GL is the first and most gayest superhero in the DC universe? Everything else in the media and news and TV/movies is all jumping on the bandwagon that everyone is gay and its cool to be gay. So why not make a Superhero movie about that? Besides Ryan Reynolds is PERFECT for that role.
I do agree with DavidTyler that they wasted Hector Hammond and the Final Battle sequence was not very exciting. But they also allowed too much of Ryan Reynolds real personality to come thru and it was just annoying...
 
Hal has already been established as straight and, besides, a gay Green Lantern would make even less money than the first.
Emerald Twilight has the perfect twist and would make Revenge of the Sith's Order 66 look pale in comparison.
Just make Hal not use the name Parallax and it's all ready.
 
Hal has already been established as straight and, besides, a gay Green Lantern would make even less money than the first.
Emerald Twilight has the perfect twist and would make Revenge of the Sith's Order 66 look pale in comparison.
Just make Hal not use the name Parallax and it's all ready.

Too soon IMO for anything like that.

And they could just got back and say "that thing we called Parallax in the first movie wasn't really the real Parallax... it was Krona possessed by Parallax. The real deal is the nasty space roach and he's going to possess Hal and wreck to Corps."

If I were them though, before I went anywhere near that I'd go for Emerald Dawn II have Hal and Sinestro fight. Then do the Sinestro Corps War which can work before Hal goes evil... but do the whole white streak thing. Then you can have Emerald Twilight. Emerald Twilight would probably have no chance of happening in any for though... it's powerful, does make Order 66 look weak, but man that's something you have to really build up to and this franchise unfortunately is nowhere near that and more over... NO ONE at DC/WB has the kind of vision to plan a series of GL films that build to this happening and have the balls to really do it.
 
Wrath of Kahn type sequel. I would love to see them battle an entire army of Manhunters. New corps vs old corps type deal. And then at the end of the movie, Hal goes with Sinestro to Korugar, and he see's exactly how Sinestro has been keeping the peace on his homeplanet. Then in the 3rd we can have Sinestro as the bad guy. Just my 2 cents :p
 

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