How would you improve Smallville??

[KalKai]

Oh jesus, when the hell is BT getting back up? lol.

L&C flying scenes look like poo.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

If they didn't want Clark to fly the second show of the first season we would not have seen him floating!!!!! SV can have Clark fly whenever they want to. They just don't do it for their own personal reasons which is fine. Personally I could care less about flight. What makes me sick is the mind wipes going on here.

 

[AFan 2]

Oh jesus, when the hell is BT getting back up? lol.

L&C flying scenes look like poo.

They were pooh because they were done in the early 90's when effects really were not up to much. Nowadays they could do allot more with less money.

All they need is to do a couple of days filming with Welling in a blue tshirt and red jacket. Get him in a load of different angles and poses. Then whenever they want him to fly they can just ensure welling is in his customary Blue Tshirt red jacket combo. Heck for most of the flying he could even be a blur. It is possible.

 

[KalKai]

You make it sound easy, but it's not, they have their reasons. They should & probably will keep the flying at the end, and dedicate a whole episode to it.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

I would end it if I were them with just Clark and Lana flying.

 

[AFan 2]

You make it sound easy, but it's not, they have their reasons. They should & probably will keep the flying at the end, and dedicate a whole episode to it.

there reason is the same reason the Lana story line has been dragged out too long. They are scared to have him fly in case people lose interest. It would be interesting to do a poll to see how many people tune in for the premiers to see if he flies.

I personally hope we get at least one season with him flying. Clark didnt just learn to fly and then put on the suit. Flight like any other power needs to be learned and mastered. Otherwise superman on his debute runs the risk of bumping into buildingst:

 

[Eddie Brock]

how would i improve it?
simple:

 

[NotFadeAway]

Tomb was worse

Thirst was far worse than Tomb, atleast Tomb actually created character development for Chloe!!!

 

[NotFadeAway]

Hmmm, this is a question I have long asked myself, and without much time to spend here today, I will scribble down my thoughts, which are in no particular order....

1) There would have been more over arching, season long villians. We have had Lionel and thats it. If I was writing, ever season would have had to oppose Clark that would be present for 3/4 of the season in some capacity.

2) The destiny that Jor-El speaks of would have NOTHING to do with Clark becoming Superman, so that when the series ends Clark would have his destiny fulfilled and the ability to do whatever he wishes, the ability to happily live a normal life. Clark would, of course, choose to become Superman on his own accord.

3) Both Kents would be alive at the end.

4) Clarks dynamics with his friends would have been different from the first season on. Lana, Chloe, and Pete would have all discovered Clark's secret during the first season, and after accepting him for who he really is, help him during his weekly adventures and such. I mean, would Buffy The Vampire Slayer have been so good is Buffy had to hide who she was from her friends. For F#CK sakes, Clark has to learn to trust others at some point in his life, and it creates the oppurtunity to actually sit down and create real storylines for a f#cking change.

5) Lana would be a better person, the sweet girl, the girl that uplifts Clark's spirits, not destroys them. I would probably do a recast, Im nor sure though. I would have featured Clark and Lana in a full on relationship for atleast a whole season, the guy has to learn to be himself in a relationship. My Lana wouldn't be such a complainer, but an inspiration for facing tragedy and moving on. Also, I would have left her one parent.

6) Episodes that didn't deal with powers, villians, special effects, any of that ****. Just good old personal, character building episodes. Not every episode has to have some wacky plot.

7) I would have dug deeper into Lex Luthor's psyche, and spent more time on Lex in general.

8) As much forcus on Lara as Jor-El.

With all this being said, I really enjoy the show.

Those are some kick ass idea's Venom, you should deff. have had an input from the beginning.

Also, I would have featured Wally West our Guy Gardner somewhere in the series as a reoccuring character WITH there powers to play off Clark. Both would be heroes, but Clark would be the tall standing, strong willed, silent workman like hero while Wally/Guy would be the mouthy, rebellious hero, eventually becoming either a main character or creating a spinoff, which they tried with and failed with Aquaman. The show is called Smallville, not Superman, Clark doesn't need to be the only good guy with powers, atleast not the enitre run.

And I would have killed Lana in any incarnation. You want some f#cking angst, Ill give you angst. Im good at tugging the heart strings

 

[Katsuro]

I'd stop making Lana go unconcious everytime Clark uses his power near her. And having anyone who finds out about him convenienty get their memeory wiped.

 

[Serene]

Those are some kick ass idea's Venom, you should deff. have had an input from the beginning.

Wth? Are you responding to your own post? I'm confused. LOL..
Perhaps I shouldn't interrupt.

Also, I would have featured Wally West our Guy Gardner somewhere in the series as a reoccuring character WITH there powers to play off Clark. Both would be heroes, but Clark would be the tall standing, strong willed, silent workman like hero while Wally/Guy would be the mouthy, rebellious hero, eventually becoming either a main character or creating a spinoff, which they tried with and failed with Aquaman. The show is called Smallville, not Superman, Clark doesn't need to be the only good guy with powers, atleast not the enitre run.

The show is about Clark. He is the central focus to the entire series. Guest appearances by other heroes is one thing, but a second recurring hero? No thanks.

And I would have killed Lana in any incarnation. You want some f#cking angst, Ill give you angst. Im good at tugging the heart strings

Tugging your own heart strings?
Just askin'.

 

[phil]

Serene, I think I might be in love with you:heart:

 

[Bruce_Wayne29]

I would get rid of the foftw and have villains that have powers that were not obtained by Kryptonite. I would give them a slightly bigger budget and I would get rid of the restrictions WB Features has put on them.

 

[Serene]

I would give them a slightly bigger budget .*snip*

I like that train of thought.

How about this? Cancel every other show on the CW (except Supernatural), and pour all that money into SV's budget.

Yeah, that's what I would do.

 

[triplet]

I know it would improve the show a lot if Tom took his shirt off a lot more often.





What?

 

[avidreader]

LOL to all 3 posts above. t:

 

[NotFadeAway]

Wth? Are you responding to your own post? I'm confused. LOL..
Perhaps I shouldn't interrupt.


The show is about Clark. He is the central focus to the entire series. Guest appearances by other heroes is one thing, but a second recurring hero? No thanks.


Tugging your own heart strings?
Just askin'.

And the show would still be about Clark at the end of the day. Let me use Buffy The Vampire Slayer as an example again, well actually Im gonna use Angel. Angel was of course the main character in " Angel ", but the show was helped out when they threw Spike into the mix in season 5. Thats what Smallville needs to do. Clark needs his Spike, someone with a similiar fate/destiny but a personality 180, which is why I suggested Wally or Guy. It would create good conflict, make things more interesting, and add storylines oppurtunites. It would also make for more humor in the series, and please don't say that Lois is all thats needed. The show is about Clark, but that doesn't mean other's can't be featured in storylines, and no not that bull**** with Pete in season 3. It's like some fans want the show to just coast along week by week instead of digging deep into some juicy, season long storylines.

 

[The Question]

Here's how I would have handled Smallville:

First off, I wouldn't cast Welling. Or Kreuk. Or, any of them, really. Now, I don't have anything against Welling or Kreuk. I think they've done a good job in Smallville. I just think, casting wise, it could have been done better. Really, I'd cast people who actually look like they're teenagers, not supermodels. I would have cast someone with actual red hair for Lana, and for Clark, I would have gone with someone with less of a build. Personally, I've always prefered Clark, especially teenage Clark, to be alot more slender. Not that I want him to be like Peter Parker or anything. It's just that, when you're as naturally strong as Clark is, you're not going to be exering yourself often enough to build up alot of muscle. I would not have included Chloe or Whitney, and kept it to Just Clark, Pete, and Lana. I would have tried to cast someone for Pete who actually looks like Pete from the comics, but then, the actor they had did very well, so I might have ketp the same actor.

Second, I'd have it set in the 70s or 80s. The reason, obviously, is to keep in tune with the current continuity, where Clark atended school in the 70s and/or 80s. Also, I think giving the show a slightly retro feel would help with it's apeal.

Story wise, there would be no "freaks of the week". I would keep actual super fights to a minimal for the first season, since Clark isn't even Superman yet. When Clark fights his first "supervillain", it would have been a VERY big deal, for him at least. Lex would not be living in Smallville, and in fact Lex Luthor would not apear and only be mentioned until later seasons, if at all. Nothing against Rosenbaum's portrayal (he's quite good), but I don't like the whole "Clark and Lex being friends in Smallville" thing. Too complicated and messy if you think of how things will be in Metropolis later on.

A major plot line (at least in the early seasons) would be the D.E.O. (Department of Extranormal Operations) investigating the crash in Smallville. This would introduce Amanda Waller, who is investigating the starnge sightings around Kansas, especially in Smallville.

The series, at least at first, would be very character driven. Stuff like character relationships, normal adolecant issues, family problems, and local crimes would be at the forefront early on. I'd deal with stuff like drugs, juvinile delinquency, peer pressure, and **** like that from Clark's perspective. His powers, for the most part, would be a background peice, and would slowly become more important as the series progresses.

Now, a main thing about Clark for this series. He does not want to be a super hero. He wants to go to school, hvae friends, help his parents out on the farm, go to college, and become a writer. He wants to ignore the fact that he even has his powers. He wants to simply be normal. However, as the series progresses, he would learn that, because of his powers, he has a responsibility to help others. This would be majorly touched upon in his first super fight near the end of season one, and his later meetings with superhumans. Basically "with great power comes great responsibility" is the theme of the series.

Of course, as the show progresses, he would learn more of Krypton, obviously from the computer on his ship. While I would go with him refering to the ship as "Jor-El", I would make not that it is not Jor-El, but the ship's onboard computer, which would eventually become the Eradicator. Through season two, he would face the computer, which wnats to recreate Krypton's perfection on Earth, no matter what the consiquences. However, this would not be fully touched upon until later in the series.

Of course, there would be cameos by other DC heroes. But only ones that make sense. During season two, we would be introduced to a new character. Clark's history teacher, who is almost always refered to as "Mr. Jones." At some point in season two, we learn that his first name is "John." This is, of course, Martian Manhunter, keeping an eye on his fellow extra terrestrial. J'onn will help guid Clark to using his powers to help others through the series. Clark would also meet old JSA members, in their civies of course, who would also teach Clark a valuable lesson about responsibility and heroism.

I would probably have seasons one and two be in his freshman and junior years at high school. Season three would ne senior year, and we would see a return of the Eradicator. The season finale for season three would be a showdown between Clark and the Eradicator over the fate of the Earth.

Season four would have Clark not going to college, but instead gaining first hand journolistic experiance by traveling across the world, writing a series of colums for whatever newspapers arer interested, and keeping a journal that would serve as a source of narration. In this season, we would see alot more heroism from Clark, saving epopel from natural disasters and fighting the occasional superhuman menace. When Clark does fight superhumans, they would be old school JSA villains slightly tweaked for TV, and not "freaks of the week" made up for the show. We would see more of the D.E.O. and Amanda Waller investigating him, now that the sightings are on the move. This would, eventually, lead to a meeting between Clark and Waller, where they settle things between them. The season would end with Clark receiving a letter from Perry White about a job oportunity, thus leaving the door open for a continuation to a more classic Superman show in the next season.

 

[avidreader]

I appreciate the time you've taken to making that synopsis The Question, but I'm glad they didnt do any of that. It makes the show a completely different show and takes away the "real heart" of what Smallville is about.

Clark and his relationship with his friends and family.

And I couldnt see anybody in the roles that have been cast other than the current cast.

 

[blksuperman2]

1) Since when does Superman have a vulnerablity to Vampires or are you being funny?? Supermans Vulnerabilities are, Kryptonite, Magic and Running out of solar stores.

I don't know if anyone has answered this but, you might wanna read this.

 

[AgentPat]

...It makes the show a completely different show and takes away the "real heart" of what Smallville is about.

Clark and his relationship with his friends and family.

And I couldnt see anybody in the roles that have been cast other than the current cast.

Thank you! Had to be said.

I've skimmed this thread w/o comment because of the subjective nature of the question. ANYTHING can be made better - even sex - but that doesn't mean you enjoy it any less if it stays Just. The. Way. It. Is.

And I'll echo Kai's lament: FFS, somebody get BT's back on-line, pronto! LOL

 

[Serene]

I don't know if anyone has answered this but, you might wanna read this.

LOL!

If we're going to get specific here..Thirst wasn't really about vampires, in the traditional sense anyway. Not only was it explained (by Fine?) as a VIRUS.. but I believe it was a kryptonite induced or related virus. That's why Clark was vulnerable to it.

Meh. I liked it.. well, parts of it. But there is even a part of Tomb that I liked too. Oh, and Lucy. Even the worst eps always have something that makes them worth watching.

 

[blksuperman2]

LOL!

If we're going to get specific here..Thirst wasn't really about vampires, in the traditional sense anyway. Not only was it explained (by Fine?) as a VIRUS.. but I believe it was a kryptonite induced or related virus. That's why Clark was vulnerable to it.

Meh. I liked it.. well, parts of it. But there is even a part of Tomb that I liked too. Oh, and Lucy. Even the worst eps always have something that makes them worth watching.

I'm with you, I've liked something out of every single episode. I may not of agreed with Superpowered Vampire Lana, or Super Witch Lana, or Super Chinese fighter Lana, but I've enjoyed the ride.

 

[avidreader]

I'm with you, I've liked something out of every single episode. I may not of agreed with Superpowered Vampire Lana, or Super Witch Lana, or Super Chinese fighter Lana, but I've enjoyed the ride.

I often wonder what it is people specifically dont like about that sort of thing.

After all this is a show about an alien being and therefore makes it a fantasy tale where fantastic things can happen.

 

[AgentPat]

I often wonder what it is people specifically dont like about that sort of thing.

After all this is a show about an alien being and therefore makes it a fantasy tale where fantastic things can happen.

Funny, init? Even the most staunch supporters have their pet peeves. For example, I think it was Triplet that LOATHED the whole blood arc from S3 (or was that Serene? I forget.) Personally, I didn't like what's-his-name-LOST-dude, but as a concept, I found the experiments with Clark's blood quite fascinating. It elaborated on things rarely explained - never less shown - in prior versions of the mythos, such as the fact that Clark's blood BOILS when he gets near Kryptonite. OUCH! What a graphic way to explain the pain involved with K poisoning. The story also presented Clark with an interesting dilemma - if his blood could help people, should he reveal himself to the world? Heavy duty stuff there. And finally, the arc had more of a sci-fi backbone than fantasy.

Not everything needed to be explained to the smallest denominator (Michael Crichton, anybody?), but it had MUCH more of a realistic feel than the witch arc, IMHO. Not that I disliked the witch arc, mind you, but a story about three witches burned at the stake 500 years ago and then resurrected via magic to possess the bodies of three victims today is pure fantasy. Again, not that there's anything wrong with that, but I personally prefer fiction involving aliens among us to be a little more science fiction oriented.