The Avengers Hulk Vs Thor - The Movie Edition

[jaqua99]

Ive seen the movie 4 times. And Ive watched the fight online dozens of times. I have seen the fight probably 50 times, and edited it together, cutting out the scenes in between. Let me clear this up.

Big Thor it the nail on the head. It was relatively an even fight. If it were to be scored, like a fight, I would give the edge to Thor. He showed more skill. Each cut scene in between, didn't lapse parts of the fight we missed. When we got back to Hulk and Thor, it was RIGHT where it left off. This is how the fight went.

Thor tackles Hulk through the wall. He looks up him, thinking, Odin's beard. Hulk growls, throws a punch, Thor dodges it, and punches him in the face, staggering Hulks balance. Hulk then throws a punch, caught by Thor. Thor's two arms WERE able to overpower Hulk's one. He was pushing his arm up. (So we can assume Hulk was stronger, but Thor had enough strength to hold his own, we still haven't seen him cut loose, by this i just mean, everything, a "cutting loose thor" in fist to fist would still get rocked). Anyway, Hulk responds by punching Thor through boxes or whatever. Thor gets up. Uppercut, sends hulk flying. Hulk dazed for a second, throws wing at thor, thor dodges, throws hammer. Hammer drags hulk. Hulk cant pick it up. Thor knees Hulk in the face. Then picks up the hammer again, and jumped on his back.

Let me pause here and say thor may have been holding back, right here, when Thor picked up his harmer, hulk was still wobbling from getting kneed in the face, it was like a 1 second sequence, so it doesn't take anything away from Hulk, but Thor did pick up his hammer, and could have clocked Hulk again if he wanted to. But he jumped on his back again, STILL trying to subdue him. So yes, to me, that moment makes it clear, Thor was simply trying to keep Hulk away from others, and on him, instead of actually trying to put him down.

Anyway, Hulk jumps them up through 3 levels. They land, Hulk gets up first, picks up thor, two hand slams him to the ground, then picks him up, and tosses him into the boxes. End.

Now if we wanna get technical,

Thor landed 3 blows,

Hulk landed 3 blows. Some may not want to call the throws blows, if not, Hulk landed one punch. He landed ONE punch. Then threw Thor twice in the same sequence.

Thor dodged 2 attacks, and caught one, showing defense

Hulk did not

Hulks blows were more..impactful, if thats the right word. But thor "landed" more

Thor could have clocked Hulk with his hammer, instead of jumping on his back

With this being said, it was an even fight, but if we want to get technical, and say, who had the upper hand, although the fight played into Hulk's advantages, Thor seemed to be more in control of the fight. Meaning, he could do what he wanted to do, (till they were in that small room)

I've analyzed this fight. This is how it went haha. Generally even.

But from a straight point, Thor had the advantage about 3/5s to 4/5s of it, Hulks advantages was the punch, and the throws, thor was able to play defense, but hulks punch was devastating clearly.

So this is it. Generally it was an even fight. But it led me to assume, if Thor wanted to, he could put down Hulk ,even in.. a brawll (assuming he swings with the hammer) if its fist to fist, he's toast.

The way Thor fought in the frost giant fight, I don't see Hulk being able to take a THAT thor on, thor really wanted to put those guys down. I think if Thor really wanted to put Hulk down, movie verse, he could. Still has got weather manipulation, and speed, and reaction, we don't know how tough the destroyer was, probably weak, but he was deflecting blasts from it at probably 40 feet away. Hulk's body has a weight. If Thor wanted to he could probably do what he did to hulk, what he did to destroyer (not put him down though, I simply mean get hulk in the air, and then charge him into the ground) But this fight, generally even

also, something worth noting, why was Thor more durable than Hulk? Hulk fell, and we can assume he passed out from the impact. Thor fell from the same height from the helicarrier, him jumping out of the side of the cage last second did not slow him down, he was already falling, he just changed his angle of impact, he still got up from a fall that high seemingly fine, when Hulk was knocked out. Also in the final battle, Thor was the only one who really didn't seem to hurt at all, each had their moment, cap had his, stark on the ground being shot at by the chitauri, hulk getting bombarded, bloody nose, looked tired, however, Thor didn't have a moment like that.

Its beginning to seem like the MCU is making him like, their superman. Its kind of annoying to be honest.

 

[The Morningstar]

I saw the film 3 times in the theater as well. They never actually show the full end result of Thor's attack from the Chrysler Building. The creatures are rocked for sure, but you can't see if they're fully destroyed or just damaged. Again, later on you see one of the leviathan's roaming around with electric current going through it. Since none of that others had this feature then one could assume that it survived Thor's strike.

haha wow you're reaching big time. Thor's attacked destroyed them all, clearly.

The one that had an electric current going through it was when Stark destroyed the mother ship, cutting off the signal. They were bio-mechanical after all.

 

[jaqua99]

haha wow you're reaching big time. Thor's attacked destroyed them all, clearly.

The one that had an electric current going through it was when Stark destroyed the mother ship, cutting off the signal. They were bio-mechanical after all.

yeah, they blew up.

 

[Fifthchild]

No one's saying Thor held back physically, we're saying he held back by not using any of his weather control powers.

Thor was obviously forced to hold back to some extent due to the fact that they were fighting in a populated air craft.

I dont necessarily disagree but i do think its an open question as to whether Thor could have used his weather powers in the helicarrier even if he did not care about collateral damage. At least as far as i can recall when Thor uses lightning thusfar he has called it down from the sky and thus it might not be something he can pull off (if only from the narrative perspective that it would probably look pretty strange) when indoors. But thats a relatively minor issue and i do agree that Thor would have another option available to him in another setting.

 

[Fifthchild]

Ive seen the movie 4 times. And Ive watched the fight online dozens of times. I have seen the fight probably 50 times, and edited it together, cutting out the scenes in between. Let me clear this up.

Big Thor it the nail on the head. It was relatively an even fight. If it were to be scored, like a fight, I would give the edge to Thor. He showed more skill. Each cut scene in between, didn't lapse parts of the fight we missed. When we got back to Hulk and Thor, it was RIGHT where it left off. This is how the fight went.

Generally i would agree except perhaps for the last sequence where they go through the roof. Logically there must be a part of the fight offscreen here because Hill is told about the Hulk and Thor going through to Level 4 straight after we see it, theres some discussion, the jet moves up to Level 4 and we are back at the fight. So strictly speaking it wouldnt be possible for us to come back to the fight with the pilot unless some other stuff happened. Then again the movie could just be playing fast and loose with time.

Thor tackles Hulk through the wall. He looks up him, thinking, Odin's beard. Hulk growls, throws a punch, Thor dodges it, and punches him in the face, staggering Hulks balance. Hulk then throws a punch, caught by Thor. Thor's two arms WERE able to overpower Hulk's one. He was pushing his arm up. (So we can assume Hulk was stronger, but Thor had enough strength to hold his own, we still haven't seen him cut loose, by this i just mean, everything, a "cutting loose thor" in fist to fist would still get rocked). Anyway, Hulk responds by punching Thor through boxes or whatever. Thor gets up. Uppercut, sends hulk flying. Hulk dazed for a second, throws wing at thor, thor dodges, throws hammer. Hammer drags hulk. Hulk cant pick it up. Thor knees Hulk in the face. Then picks up the hammer again, and jumped on his back.

Let me pause here and say thor may have been holding back, right here, when Thor picked up his harmer, hulk was still wobbling from getting kneed in the face, it was like a 1 second sequence, so it doesn't take anything away from Hulk, but Thor did pick up his hammer, and could have clocked Hulk again if he wanted to. But he jumped on his back again, STILL trying to subdue him. So yes, to me, that moment makes it clear, Thor was simply trying to keep Hulk away from others, and on him, instead of actually trying to put him down.

Hmmm. I think Thor more or less chucked in his "not trying to hurt you" card the moment he smacked him in the face with Mjolnir. Going for the submission rather than another strike might have just made more sense at that moment seeing as a perfectly timed spinning hammer shot landed squarely on the jaw had just been shrugged off. Alternatively Thor could have gone for the rear choke while Hulk was still trying to lift the hammer rather than kneeing him if he really didnt want to hit him again.

Then again all of this took place in the space of about half a second so it seems a bit much to attribute too much thought or strategy to what each of them tried to do. Fighters are generally running on instinct at times like that.

Anyway, Hulk jumps them up through 3 levels. They land, Hulk gets up first, picks up thor, two hand slams him to the ground, then picks him up, and tosses him into the boxes. End.

Now if we wanna get technical,

Thor landed 3 blows,

Hulk landed 3 blows. Some may not want to call the throws blows, if not, Hulk landed one punch. He landed ONE punch. Then threw Thor twice in the same sequence.

SNIP

But from a straight point, Thor had the advantage about 3/5s to 4/5s of it, Hulks advantages was the punch, and the throws, thor was able to play defense, but hulks punch was devastating clearly.

So this is it. Generally it was an even fight. But it led me to assume, if Thor wanted to, he could put down Hulk ,even in.. a brawll (assuming he swings with the hammer) if its fist to fist, he's toast.

The way Thor fought in the frost giant fight, I don't see Hulk being able to take a THAT thor on, thor really wanted to put those guys down. I think if Thor really wanted to put Hulk down, movie verse, he could. Still has got weather manipulation, and speed, and reaction, we don't know how tough the destroyer was, probably weak, but he was deflecting blasts from it at probably 40 feet away. Hulk's body has a weight. If Thor wanted to he could probably do what he did to hulk, what he did to destroyer (not put him down though, I simply mean get hulk in the air, and then charge him into the ground) But this fight, generally even

I agree that Thor landed more blows as makes sense being the more skilled of the two and he was largely in control of the middle section of the fight. I suppose the contentious bit for some is whether the last stage of the fight was just another part of the back and forth or if Hulk was beginning to walk through Thors attacks.

also, something worth noting, why was Thor more durable than Hulk? Hulk fell, and we can assume he passed out from the impact. Thor fell from the same height from the helicarrier, him jumping out of the side of the cage last second did not slow him down, he was already falling, he just changed his angle of impact, he still got up from a fall that high seemingly fine, when Hulk was knocked out. Also in the final battle, Thor was the only one who really didn't seem to hurt at all, each had their moment, cap had his, stark on the ground being shot at by the chitauri, hulk getting bombarded, bloody nose, looked tired, however, Thor didn't have a moment like that.

I dont think Thor was shown as more durable than the Hulk. If you take the movie at face value then i get the feeling that Hulk was never endangered by his fall (at least there is no dramatic tension in him falling from 30,000 feet) whereas its implied that Thor was at least in some danger. When we put on our over-analytical hats then i know some people have concluded that Hulk was KOed by the fall and Thor effectively fell the same distance in the end and wasnt injured.

However its never stated that Hulk was knocked unconscious by the fall. As i said before its quite common in the films and the TV show for Hulk to seemingly "fall asleep" before the transformation and for Banner to then wake up not knowing what the hell just happened. It happened to Norton in the last film in an almost identical scene. As for Thor, if we really want to go down this path we dont see what shape he was in after the crash and if one is in this frame of mind then questions begin to form as to why he didnt immediately pursue Loki or at least rendezvous with the helicarrier? One could just as easily come to the conclusion that Thor was knocked unconscious for quite some time by the fall. But again, this is all probably overthinking it somewhat.

As for Thor's "moment of danger" I think it was clearly the part where he was stabbed by Loki. That was when we were meant to think "Oh s$%& - Thor might die!" and i imagine for Whedon playing that card again a few minutes later may have seemed a bit repetitive.

Its beginning to seem like the MCU is making him like, their superman. Its kind of annoying to be honest.

I'm sure you are very annoyed Seriously though i dont think Marvel or the MCU really has a Superman and thats part of its charm.

 

[The Morningstar]

Thor hit Hulk only once with the hammer. After that he tried to put a sleeper hold on him. Yea, he was going all out alright.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Ive seen the movie 4 times. And Ive watched the fight online dozens of times. I have seen the fight probably 50 times, and edited it together, cutting out the scenes in between. Let me clear this up.

Big Thor it the nail on the head. It was relatively an even fight. If it were to be scored, like a fight, I would give the edge to Thor. He showed more skill. Each cut scene in between, didn't lapse parts of the fight we missed. When we got back to Hulk and Thor, it was RIGHT where it left off. This is how the fight went.

Thor tackles Hulk through the wall. He looks up him, thinking, Odin's beard. Hulk growls, throws a punch, Thor dodges it, and punches him in the face, staggering Hulks balance. Hulk then throws a punch, caught by Thor. Thor's two arms WERE able to overpower Hulk's one. He was pushing his arm up. (So we can assume Hulk was stronger, but Thor had enough strength to hold his own, we still haven't seen him cut loose, by this i just mean, everything, a "cutting loose thor" in fist to fist would still get rocked). Anyway, Hulk responds by punching Thor through boxes or whatever. Thor gets up. Uppercut, sends hulk flying. Hulk dazed for a second, throws wing at thor, thor dodges, throws hammer. Hammer drags hulk. Hulk cant pick it up. Thor knees Hulk in the face. Then picks up the hammer again, and jumped on his back.

Let me pause here and say thor may have been holding back, right here, when Thor picked up his harmer, hulk was still wobbling from getting kneed in the face, it was like a 1 second sequence, so it doesn't take anything away from Hulk, but Thor did pick up his hammer, and could have clocked Hulk again if he wanted to. But he jumped on his back again, STILL trying to subdue him. So yes, to me, that moment makes it clear, Thor was simply trying to keep Hulk away from others, and on him, instead of actually trying to put him down.

Anyway, Hulk jumps them up through 3 levels. They land, Hulk gets up first, picks up thor, two hand slams him to the ground, then picks him up, and tosses him into the boxes. End.

Now if we wanna get technical,

Thor landed 3 blows,

Hulk landed 3 blows. Some may not want to call the throws blows, if not, Hulk landed one punch. He landed ONE punch. Then threw Thor twice in the same sequence.

Thor dodged 2 attacks, and caught one, showing defense

Hulk did not

Hulks blows were more..impactful, if thats the right word. But thor "landed" more

Thor could have clocked Hulk with his hammer, instead of jumping on his back

With this being said, it was an even fight, but if we want to get technical, and say, who had the upper hand, although the fight played into Hulk's advantages, Thor seemed to be more in control of the fight. Meaning, he could do what he wanted to do, (till they were in that small room)

I've analyzed this fight. This is how it went haha. Generally even.

But from a straight point, Thor had the advantage about 3/5s to 4/5s of it, Hulks advantages was the punch, and the throws, thor was able to play defense, but hulks punch was devastating clearly.

So this is it. Generally it was an even fight. But it led me to assume, if Thor wanted to, he could put down Hulk ,even in.. a brawll (assuming he swings with the hammer) if its fist to fist, he's toast.

The way Thor fought in the frost giant fight, I don't see Hulk being able to take a THAT thor on, thor really wanted to put those guys down. I think if Thor really wanted to put Hulk down, movie verse, he could. Still has got weather manipulation, and speed, and reaction, we don't know how tough the destroyer was, probably weak, but he was deflecting blasts from it at probably 40 feet away. Hulk's body has a weight. If Thor wanted to he could probably do what he did to hulk, what he did to destroyer (not put him down though, I simply mean get hulk in the air, and then charge him into the ground) But this fight, generally even

also, something worth noting, why was Thor more durable than Hulk? Hulk fell, and we can assume he passed out from the impact. Thor fell from the same height from the helicarrier, him jumping out of the side of the cage last second did not slow him down, he was already falling, he just changed his angle of impact, he still got up from a fall that high seemingly fine, when Hulk was knocked out. Also in the final battle, Thor was the only one who really didn't seem to hurt at all, each had their moment, cap had his, stark on the ground being shot at by the chitauri, hulk getting bombarded, bloody nose, looked tired, however, Thor didn't have a moment like that.

Its beginning to seem like the MCU is making him like, their superman. Its kind of annoying to be honest.

This bolded part isnt correct, the guy in the factory clearly says to Banner "You were awake when you landed." So the fall didnt KO Hulk, also from what the guy says Hulk planned to land there, remember this conversation:

"Did I hurt anybody"
"No, but you scared the hell out of some pigeons"
"Lucky"
"Or good aim"

Hulk was conscious during the fall and the landing, and guided himself to an empty building to avoid hurting civilians, the fall did no damage to him yet Thor was a bit done in from it, his hand was damaged hence why he couldnt summon Mjolnir despite being right next to it.

 

[The Morningstar]

Yea Hulk definitely has slightly better durability and is physically stronger than Thor. But still, Thor makes up for that by being faster and having more varied powers.

That's the way it should be. Pure strength is all Hulk's got, let him "be the strongest one there is!!!!".

What i loved about that sucker punch after the leviathan take down is that, even though it is a visual gag, it's also pure characterisation. It's Hulk basically saying "Good job goldilocks... but HULK STILL STRONGEST ONE THERE IS!"

 

[jadejaws]

haha wow you're reaching big time. Thor's attacked destroyed them all, clearly.

The one that had an electric current going through it was when Stark destroyed the mother ship, cutting off the signal. They were bio-mechanical after all.

It's not reaching when you're making an observation. I don't really care who people think "came off better", or didn't win a cinematic fight.

I thought that all the creatures fell after Stark destroyed the mothership. I don't recall any of them still in flight at that point.

 

[The Morningstar]

It's not reaching when you're making an observation. I don't really care who people think "came off better", or didn't win a cinematic fight.

I thought that all the creatures fell after Stark destroyed the mothership. I don't recall any of them still in flight at that point.

I don't care either. I'm just pointing out that you were wrong there. Thor blew two of them up with his lightning, you could see them explode.

And the final Leviathan has an electric pulse go through it as it crashes after Stark blows up the mother ship.

 

[jadejaws]

I don't care either. I'm just pointing out that you were wrong there. Thor blew two of them up with his lightning, you could see them explode.

And the final Leviathan has an electric pulse go through it as it crashes after Stark blows up the mother ship.

You may be wrong on your second point as well. The next time you watch the movie please check the fact that one of the creatures has an electrical current going through it well before Stark destroys the ship. It may have nothing to do with what Thor did, but then again maybe it does.

 

[The Morningstar]

I will look out for it. But then considering they are all bio-mechanical, it wouldn't be out of the realms of possibility that they have electrical pulses going through them.

 

[jadejaws]

I will look out for it. But then considering they are all bio-mechanical, it wouldn't be out of the realms of possibility that they have electrical pulses going through them.

Very true...when you do watch it repost your thoughts. I'm curious to see what someone elses take is on it. I just found it odd that only one of the creatures had it and it was after Thor attacked them.

 

[Fifthchild]

Thor hit Hulk only once with the hammer. After that he tried to put a sleeper hold on him. Yea, he was going all out alright.

Assuming this post was addressed at me: Whats this supposed to prove? (In point of fact Thor punched Hulk once, hit him with Mjolnir, threw Mjolnir at him, kneed him in the face and then went for the choke). Was there an opportunity in that 8 seconds or so for Thor to hit Hulk thousands of times with Mjolnir that i missed? When an MMA fighter tries to choke another fighter out are we to assume that they arent "going all out"? I can understand not using lightning but why would Thor choose to launch some half-assed attack on Hulk? To protect his self-esteem?

 

[The Morningstar]

No, to subdue Hulk without causing collateral damage. When he picked Mjolnir back up he could of smashed Hulk with it again, then flew over and smashed Hulk with it again, then flew over and smashed Hulk with it again etc. But that would cause even more damage to the Helicarrier.

Thor is basically just offering himself as something for Hulk to smash, instead of letting Hulk rampage around the Helicarrier and tearing it apart.

 

[Golgo-13]

This bolded part isnt correct, the guy in the factory clearly says to Banner "You were awake when you landed." So the fall didnt KO Hulk, also from what the guy says Hulk planned to land there, remember this conversation:

"Did I hurt anybody"
"No, but you scared the hell out of some pigeons"
"Lucky"
"Or good aim"

Hulk was conscious during the fall and the landing, and guided himself to an empty building to avoid hurting civilians, the fall did no damage to him yet Thor was a bit done in from it, his hand was damaged hence why he couldnt summon Mjolnir despite being right next to it.

This. Very good points. I keep pointing out that Hulk didn't become unconscious due to the fall, he lost consciousness due to the change back to Banner. And as you pointed out, Hulk guided himself to that abandoned building hence the security guards comments.

As far as Thor's hand being damaged; i don't think that was the case. I took that part as him about to summon the hammer, then he paused for a moment of clarity and reflected upon what had just happened.

 

[Fifthchild]

No, to subdue Hulk without causing collateral damage. When he picked Mjolnir back up he could of smashed Hulk with it again, then flew over and smashed Hulk with it again, then flew over and smashed Hulk with it again etc. But that would cause even more damage to the Helicarrier.

I certainly didnt get the impression that Thor had the opportunity to land blow after blow with Mjolnir but for arguments sake lets assume he did. He had just hit Hulk with the best shot you could ever hope to land on anyone, with Hulk jumping right into a massive full body hammer spin to the chin, and Hulk just shrugged it off. If thats the case it makes sense to try and bring Hulk down by choking him out. As it is Thor didnt seem to achieve much in terms of stopping Hulks destruction of the helicarrier and seemed to be responsible for a few floors being breached. If he could have beaten Hulk into submission that might have been a better idea.

Thor is basically just offering himself as something for Hulk to smash, instead of letting Hulk rampage around the Helicarrier and tearing it apart.

You are welcome to that interpretation but as far as I'm concerned there isnt really anything in the movie that sells that idea and theres a fair bit that implies that its not the case (Thor smiling, Thor actively attacking Hulk).

 

[jaqua99]

Hmmm. I think Thor more or less chucked in his "not trying to hurt you" card the moment he smacked him in the face with Mjolnir. Going for the submission rather than another strike might have just made more sense at that moment seeing as a perfectly timed spinning hammer shot landed squarely on the jaw had just been shrugged off. Alternatively Thor could have gone for the rear choke while Hulk was still trying to lift the hammer rather than kneeing him if he really didnt want to hit him again.

Idk, that uppercut definitely had some effect. For a split second, Hulk looked dazed, but then literally shook it off, shook his head, so yeah, one more wouldnt of done it, but a few hammer strikes to the head could have definitely done some damage. Neither were able to put the other party in any pain whatsoever during that fight it seemed like.

This bolded part isnt correct, the guy in the factory clearly says to Banner "You were awake when you landed." So the fall didnt KO Hulk, also from what the guy says Hulk planned to land there, remember this conversation:

"Did I hurt anybody"
"No, but you scared the hell out of some pigeons"
"Lucky"
"Or good aim"

Hulk was conscious during the fall and the landing, and guided himself to an empty building to avoid hurting civilians, the fall did no damage to him yet Thor was a bit done in from it, his hand was damaged hence why he couldnt summon Mjolnir despite being right next to it.

You're right. Also, the great line, "Son, you have a condition". and hurt hand? I never heard that before, I think that was just him walking up to it, then pausing, and realizing that his brother is beyond reason, and he has to fight his brother to end all this madness.

Assuming this post was addressed at me: Whats this supposed to prove? (In point of fact Thor punched Hulk once, hit him with Mjolnir, threw Mjolnir at him, kneed him in the face and then went for the choke). Was there an opportunity in that 8 seconds or so for Thor to hit Hulk thousands of times with Mjolnir that i missed? When an MMA fighter tries to choke another fighter out are we to assume that they arent "going all out"? I can understand not using lightning but why would Thor choose to launch some half-assed attack on Hulk? To protect his self-esteem?

To cause less collateral damage, jumping on someone's back, putting him in a choke hold, in a fight, thats usually what people do, to sort of, you know, its done, calm down dude, just relax.

No, to subdue Hulk without causing collateral damage. When he picked Mjolnir back up he could of smashed Hulk with it again, then flew over and smashed Hulk with it again, then flew over and smashed Hulk with it again etc. But that would cause even more damage to the Helicarrier.

Thor is basically just offering himself as something for Hulk to smash, instead of letting Hulk rampage around the Helicarrier and tearing it apart.

Not offering, I saw it more as, Thor knows the helicarrier is a destructive environment. And he could take Hulk's blows, even at a disadvantage for some parts. To me, he was just trying to occupy Hulk's time, keep his focus on him.

I certainly didnt get the impression that Thor had the opportunity to land blow after blow with Mjolnir but for arguments sake lets assume he did. He had just hit Hulk with the best shot you could ever hope to land on anyone, with Hulk jumping right into a massive full body hammer spin to the chin, and Hulk just shrugged it off. If thats the case it makes sense to try and bring Hulk down by choking him out. As it is Thor didnt seem to achieve much in terms of stopping Hulks destruction of the helicarrier and seemed to be responsible for a few floors being breached. If he could have beaten Hulk into submission that might have been a better idea.



You are welcome to that interpretation but as far as I'm concerned there isnt really anything in the movie that sells that idea and theres a fair bit that implies that its not the case (Thor smiling, Thor actively attacking Hulk).

Just cause he attacked Hulk, didn't mean he wasn't going all out. Thor CLEARLY understood at this point during the fight, what Hulk is capable of, and what Hulk could take. And no, beating an Ally into submission would not have been a better idea. Hulk is a mortal. By a realm's standpoint atleast. Banner is a friend, not his enemy, in the MCU i think its kind of stressed that Thor has matured. So no, I don't see him trying to beat Hulk into submission.

 

[Drummerdude7]

This thread is both hilarious and awesome.

I remember when watching the fight in theatres, both times Hulk taking Mjolnir to the chin got a huge "OOOOHHHHH!" reaction out of the audience.

 

[jaqua99]

This thread is both hilarious and awesome.

I remember when watching the fight in theatres, both times Hulk taking Mjolnir to the chin got a huge "OOOOHHHHH!" reaction out of the audience.

Hello fellow drummer, aka guy who I got pumped about for idolizing John Bonham like I do

 

[Drummerdude7]

Hahahaha greetings again jaqua.

 

[Weadazoid]

All I know is when I saw it the audience GASPED and there were some serious oh wow moments....but the biggest one was when Thor lands the full force uppercut with the hammer on Hulk that sends him REAAAAAAAAAALLLING and he falls into the fighter jet


now did he straight up recover and keep coming YES


He also cheep shots Thor like a brotherly kind of thing when they were fighting on top of the Mechabeast just for laughs


Gotta love that they played up BOTH characters abilities and clearly they were considered near equals


Also Loved How Thor was winding up his hammer to fly and save Toney at the end but Hulk steps in before Thor takes off to save the Iron Man




I gotta say you got the general feeling that If THor really went all out with lightning attacks he could have knocked Hulk on his arse a bit more... ALso Thor never got the hammer winding up Berzerker style like he did when he was destroying multiple frost Giants. That could have hurt the Hulk as well.

 

[sgaana]

After repeat viewings, I do start to wonder whether Loki's stab wasn't ever supposed to truly endanger Thor -- if all it was supposed to do was break the mood (Thor's display of "sentiment"). While Thor later landed unsteadily, he really doesn't seem badly affected by it.

I don't think that can be put on par with the other put-in-danger moments suffered by others on the team.

I was surprised, though, in my first viewing (most responsive audience), that Loki's stab got a huge crowd reaction. A lot of shocked gasps. Some of the audience seemed to think it was a major threat to Thor, at least.

yet Thor was a bit done in from it, his hand was damaged hence why he couldnt summon Mjolnir despite being right next to it.

No, that's not what was going on with that bit. After Loki having just proved that he was willing to do something that at least might have killed him, that moment of hesitation was a gut-check moment. Realizing that he had to be willing to pick up Mjolnir and perhaps use it to stop his brother by killing him.

 

[BigThor]

I dont necessarily disagree but i do think its an open question as to whether Thor could have used his weather powers in the helicarrier even if he did not care about collateral damage. At least as far as i can recall when Thor uses lightning thusfar he has called it down from the sky and thus it might not be something he can pull off (if only from the narrative perspective that it would probably look pretty strange) when indoors. But thats a relatively minor issue and i do agree that Thor would have another option available to him in another setting.

If Thor can summon lightning and storms in outer space, I'm pretty sure he could do it in a helicarrier.

Besides, when he was on the leviathan's back with Hulk he charged Mjolnir with lightning by himself without summoning it from the sky.

 

[Golgo-13]

But can movie Thor drop a Leviathan with a single punch like Hulk did?