The Avengers Hulk Vs Thor - The Movie Edition

[Herolee10]

Well I think one thing to add is that in the film, we saw the Hulk get some serious damage inflicted to him when he was bombarded with multiple attacks from Loki's army, to the point where he somewhat temporarily subdued for a short while, along with his nose bleeding I might add.

I'd argue that Thor's strongest lightning bolt could have the same amount of power that all of those combined lasers had, thus if Thor had been allowed to use his energy attacks, then the fight as someone said earlier, would have taken a different turn perhaps.

 

[Venomfan]

thors most powerful attack we've seen did as much damage as the cube implosion at the beginning of avengers

 

[Smashlilman]

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Damn the Hulk's jaw must be Thor after that attack.

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[Weadazoid]

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never noticed but Hulk was actually going for an elbow.... vicious.

 

[Octavias]

Once again, in the Marvel world, Hulk is the strongest, period. The madder and more out of control he gets the stronger he gets. Marvel has clarified this many times. There are cosmic beings who have noted that Hulk (and hulk alone, not even his gamma spawned peers) has unlimited strength from the unique way his body converts energy to matter. thor is insanely strong, but a fixed strength. its like a supeman/hulk battle. If hulk dragged things out and got madder and madder, hed win, but a guy like thor can maybe end it quickly with a good enough hit before hulk is in full berzerker mode.

 

[darthmagic]

I'm a huge Thor fan (obviously) I'm a hulk fan too and I think it was a good fight. I do think by the time that the fight ended the Hulk had gotten angry enough to surpass Thor's strength level which makes it a credible fight. That being said just because you surpass his physical strength does not mean you automatically win. I wonder what would have happened if they were not on a carrier filled with normal people. Thor may have thought of that, I'm sure the Hulk didn't. If Thor had been treated the same way that I've seen in the comics for several years I would have been pissed. As long as he wasn't humiliated I'm good.

That's the thing, even as a Hulk fan i think Thor could very well defeat the Hulk. not that he WOULD but he COULD if they fought all out. The issue that many mistake is because hulk is stronger that means he must win the fight and i think that's a false assumption. Do i think hulk is stronger yes, does that mean it's a no brainier for him to win a fight with Thor? No.

 

[Golgo-13]

Probably not but who cares, Hulk HAS to be stronger than Thor because strength is his core power not Thor's.

Thor can summon tornadoes, lightning, and has a mystical hammer, if you make him stronger than Hulk than what's the point in having Hulk around?

Obviously i cared, and then you cared enough to comment on it.

 

[BigThor]

Obviously i cared, and then you cared enough to comment on it.

Yeah just ignore the main point of my post, you're so cool.

That still doesn't mean I actually cared whether he could or not, it just mean I cared enough to show you the illogical nature of that question.

Nice try, smart guy

 

[Smashlilman]

That's the thing, even as a Hulk fan i think Thor could very well defeat the Hulk. not that he WOULD but he COULD if they fought all out. The issue that many mistake is because hulk is stronger that means he must win the fight and i think that's a false assumption. Do i think hulk is stronger yes, does that mean it's a no brainier for him to win a fight with Thor? No.

That's because people assume that they would be trading blows back and forth hit for hit at the same rate. It's that silly battle board mentality.

 

[Golgo-13]

Yeah just ignore the main point of my post, you're so cool.

That still doesn't mean I actually cared whether he could or not, it just mean I cared enough to show you the illogical nature of that question.

Nice try, smart guy

Of course i ignored it, it was absolutely irrelevant to my question.

And why does caring even come into play here? You're feelings on the matter bear no weight on the topic.

 

[jaqua99]

thors most powerful attack we've seen did as much damage as the cube implosion at the beginning of avengers

Also worth noting, that was a "hammer strike" sure, it was charged, but he still hit the ground with the hammer. And the way he was spinning the hammer and hitting the Jotuns, I mean, it seems like anyone, even hulk would have a hard time dealing with those blows, i mean, he was just clobbering frost giants, like, 50 of them, without effort.


Could we say that was, well almost like, the MCU's version of Thor's warrior madness?

 

[BigThor]

Also worth noting, that was a "hammer strike" sure, it was charged, but he still hit the ground with the hammer. And the way he was spinning the hammer and hitting the Jotuns, I mean, it seems like anyone, even hulk would have a hard time dealing with those blows, i mean, he was just clobbering frost giants, like, 50 of them, without effort.


Could we say that was, well almost like, the MCU's version of Thor's warrior madness?

Nah he was having fun, Thor didn't really seem that angry and he definately wasn't insane.

Of course i ignored it, it was absolutely irrelevant to my question.

And why does caring even come into play here? You're feelings on the matter bear no weight on the topic.

Lol my was irrelevant to your question...seriously?

Ok cool, it's obvious that you don't plan on being reasonable anytime soon.

 

[BigThor]

Double post

 

[Fifthchild]

We only see them because they have blue tracers. You can see bullets if they have tracer tips too. The energy blasts were moving just as fast as bullets. So Thor can see, and react to bullets after they've been fired.

I dont think they were moving as fast as bullets - at that close range they would look way faster. But all of this is inconsequential - Hemsworth isnt shown moving at supersonic speeds. He just kind of shoves his hand up and twists it around about as fast as you or i would and blocks the blasts. Yes he has fast reflexes as do all of the Avengers but i think you are way overthinking it if you want to make out that he is literally able to move and think "faster than a speeding bullet". Anyway if Thor has supersonic reflexes then Tony Stark probably does also since he evades Thor quite a few times in their fight.

Cap has a big shield, he doesn't have to react to bullets. And he got hit anyway.

Thot showed supersonic flight in his film IIRC. After the Frost Giant battle he took off and there was a sonic boom.

Just watched that and i didnt hear/see any sonic boom. I'm sure he can fly at those speeds but hes not Superman.

 

[Fifthchild]

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never noticed but Hulk was actually going for an elbow.... vicious.

It's a bit hard to tell since Thor was a moving target but it definitely looks like Hulk was going for a punch to me.

 

[BigThor]

Anyway if Thor has supersonic reflexes then Tony Stark probably does also since he evades Thor quite a few times in their fight.

IM only evaded Thor once, which happened right after Thor slammed him and summoned Mjolnir to end the fight.

Thor definately seemed more skilled by coming out on top every time they engaged in close quarters combat.

 

[Golgo-13]

Wownice SHot


never noticed but Hulk was actually going for an elbow.... vicious.

Looks like a hammer fist to me.

 

[Fifthchild]

IM only evaded Thor once, which happened right after Thor slammed him and summoned Mjolnir to end the fight.

I definitely havent gone through that fight with a fine tooth comb like i have the Thor/Hulk fight but i suppose i am saying that i didnt notice any particular speed edge to Thor and the general feel that Stark was frustrating Thor over the course of the fight.

Thor definately seemed more skilled by coming out on top every time they engaged in close quarters combat.

Generally that seemed more to do with the difference in strength/durability IMO. e.g. trading headbutts.

 

[BigThor]

I definitely havent gone through that fight with a fine tooth comb like i have the Thor/Hulk fight but i suppose i am saying that i didnt notice any particular speed edge to Thor and the general feel that Stark was frustrating Thor over the course of the fight.

Iron Man definately used his manuverability and rocket propelled attacks to stay in the game (not too mention 475% power).

Generally that seemed more to do with the difference in strength/durability IMO. e.g. trading headbutts.

It seemed like a difference in skill as well, because Thor was catching IM's punches and weaved under a punch before slamming him.

 

[Rock Sexton]

I definitely havent gone through that fight with a fine tooth comb like i have the Thor/Hulk fight but i suppose i am saying that i didnt notice any particular speed edge to Thor and the general feel that Stark was frustrating Thor over the course of the fight.

Frustrating him? Not a chance. More like angering him. Every blow IM delivered, Thor hit him with one even harder. The head butt is the best example of it.

 

[BigThor]

Not too mention IM jacked up to 475% of his normal levels and as seen in IM1 his energy levels does effect his strength.

 

[Fifthchild]

Frustrating him? Not a chance. More like angering him. Every blow IM delivered, Thor hit him with one even harder. The head butt is the best example of it.

I suspect we might be getting caught up in how we are interpreting "frustrating" but yes i think Iron Man was frustrating Thor. I think Thor looked very frustrated when he went for that hammer shot on a prone Iron Man who then scooted away leaving Thor in the dirt. Thats why he was so angry by the end of the fight.

 

[HULKFish]

To me it looked like HULK was throwing around Thor pretty well by the time they got to level 5... when the jet started shooting at them. Everyone was obviously more concerned about the level of damage HULK could cause over Thor, but this would be a great fight! The fact that they are team-mates is much more relevant to me... How are the Avengers going to hold up against Thanos seems more relevant! Especially if he gets his hands on the Infinity Gauntlet.

 

[Tony Stark]

IM only evaded Thor once, which happened right after Thor slammed him and summoned Mjolnir to end the fight.

Thor definately seemed more skilled by coming out on top every time they engaged in close quarters combat.

Watch again, IM evades him at least two or three times. It was a very good fight because Tony knew he couldn't match his strength so he uses speed, repulsors, and momentum to fight him and lands some good blows.

 

[Rock Sexton]

I suspect we might be getting caught up in how we are interpreting "frustrating" but yes i think Iron Man was frustrating Thor. I think Thor looked very frustrated when he went for that hammer shot on a prone Iron Man who then scooted away leaving Thor in the dirt. Thats why he was so angry by the end of the fight.

What's there to be frustrated about? At no point was he in any real danger. He was most definitely angered that this "metal man" (as he put it) was getting in the way of he and Loki. His anger was most clearly put on display when Cap interrupted and Thor yelled at him "You want me to put the hammer down???" He then sent IM flying and attacked Cap.