Rise of the Silver Surfer HUMAN TORCH/Chris Evans DISCUSSION

Oh right, i remember reading an Empire review were he mentioned something similar.

Also, when asked about the interest in FF2, he said, "I think people are just wondering whether we can get any worse." But he was serious.


I would have to see the source of that comment before I believe it...if he did in fact say that......not cool. But as I said, a source is needed before I believe he would be that unprofessional.
 
But I wouldn't put it past him to be honest, I think he's at a point where he wants to be considered a 'serious' actor.

I get the vibe from him that he's pretty much over the F4 and wants to move on but can't because he's under contract.
 
But I wouldn't put it past him to be honest, I think he's at a point where he wants to be considered a 'serious' actor.

I get the vibe from him that he's pretty much over the F4 and wants to move on but can't because he's under contract.


That was a definite vibe I got during most of the interviews, except for one that he and Michael did together.....it was really good. The others he seemed to want to be somewhere else.
 
He never said that people wanted to see if they could get any worse but he did say that they knew fans were wondering if the second one improved on the first since it was an origin film. I know that was a huge discussion piece on the forum when it was being filmed.
 
I would have to see the source of that comment before I believe it...if he did in fact say that......not cool. But as I said, a source is needed before I believe he would be that unprofessional.

Oh he did say it, it this year in the English version of Empire around the time Sunshine was released, I will try and find the article later if get some time.

I dont see it as unprofessional, just honest.
 
Oh he did say it, it this year in the English version of Empire around the time Sunshine was released, I will try and find the article later if get some time.

I dont see it as unprofessional, just honest.


After a movie comes out.......hey all bets are off......but before a movie comes out.....unprofessional IMO.


Usually you can get the same thing from their silence.....the silence of the cast after the first movie, was defeaning.....and spoke volumes to me.....I didn't need to hear from anyone of them that they were disappointed with what was put out to the audience.......their silence said that.
 
^^ I highly doubt that he used the phrase mentioned AVEITWITHJAMON. Let us see it cause we are all doubting Thomases you know.
 
After a movie comes out.......hey all bets are off......but before a movie comes out.....unprofessional IMO.


Usually you can get the same thing from their silence.....the silence of the cast after the first movie, was defeaning.....and spoke volumes to me.....I didn't need to hear from anyone of them that they were disappointed with what was put out to the audience.......their silence said that.

To honest he did say in the interview that he think FF2 will be better, but he did say that.

^^ I highly doubt that he used the phrase mentioned AVEITWITHJAMON. Let us see it cause we are all doubting Thomases you know.

Go to www.empireonline.co.uk and search for the interview, i dont have time at the moment but i am sure its on there.
 
chris-evansv.net has the article

You have to register to see it but that is what he said.
 
here's a quote

An Empire observation that internet fanboys are genuinely excited about the second coming of Bendy Stretcheroonie and co. provokes the following: "Well, I have yet to read alot of it, but I think they're curious if we could possibly be any worse. I think whenever a movie makes alot of money, and it's critiqued terribly, then if you're going to make a sequel, people are kind of waiting with their arms crossed, waiting to see if we can improve."
 
here's a quote

An Empire observation that internet fanboys are genuinely excited about the second coming of Bendy Stretcheroonie and co. provokes the following: "Well, I have yet to read alot of it, but I think they're curious if we could possibly be any worse. I think whenever a movie makes alot of money, and it's critiqued terribly, then if you're going to make a sequel, people are kind of waiting with their arms crossed, waiting to see if we can improve."


A quote from where, can you post the link to the source?
 
there is no date on the article but the site says it was added on March 4 2007 so I'm guessing it would be around that time.


Well, if was made after the release, then its everyone for himself/herself....before the release, not to cool......but its his opinion to have so meh.
 
Empire Magazine article
Man On Fire

The IMDb-the essential movie information website and godsend for many a scrambling film journalist says many things about young American actor Chris Evans. It specifies quite clearly that he's not to be confused with that ginger bloke who used to be on the telly. It lists his nickname as 'Cevens', which doesn't exactly push the boundaries of originality. It says that he's six feet tall...and one half inch. And It quotes him as saying, " I'd love to be Tom Cruise." No surprise there-show Empire a young actor who wouldn't want to be Tom Cruise, and we'll show you... Well, as it turns out, we'll show you Chris Evans.
"I don't know who took that quote, I don't know where I said it, but every fu**ing time someone interviews me..." he laughs, "I have never wanted that. He's wonderful, he's a great actor and I'd love to have his success, but as far as emulating who he is in the public eye, I don't think I want that type of career."
The strange thing is he means it... he means it.Evans could easily become one of the main contenders to fill The Cruiser's shoes now that Tom has apparently passed his peak. After all, he's good looking, talented and charismatic, with a happy knack of being the best thing in pretty much everything he's done so far, emerging from Not Another Teen Movie with dignity intact, and confidently anchoring David R. Ellis' buoyant B-movie Cellular.
But it's the double whammy of the Fantastic Four movies and Danny Boyle's journey-to-the-centre-of-the-sun thriller Sunshine that have really turned up the heat on Evans. The former proved that he had star quality in spades, the latter that he had acting chops. And while, right now, Sunshine might seem like the anomaly on Evans CV, in a few years time it could be the likes of Fantastic Four that stick out like sore thumbs.
True to his word, Evans isn't in the lead in Sunshine ( that honour falls to Cillian Murphy), but it's his character, the quick-tempered astronaut Mace who holds together the desperate mission to restart our dying sun, that lodges in your brain after you emerge blinking into the real sunlight, mostly because of Evans innate ability to take what could have been a by-the-book a**hole and make him likeable.
"It's personally enjoyable when the audience likes you, but I think the most important thing to do is tell the truth, and if the truth for Mace isn't exactly the most likeable thing for the audience thats not going to be my problem." says Evans, a Bostonian who studied acting at the prestigious Lee Strasberg Theater Institute in New York. "My problem is to make sure that I'm honest and be interesting. And I think interesting is different from likeable."
Turning a swaggering di**head of an astronaut into a guy you'd like to have a beer with is a trick that Evans has already pulled off before, of course with his most famous role to date: the Fantastic Four's Johnny Storm,aka. the Human Torch. But just as Empire starts to make comparisons, Evans cuts us off with a snort of laughter, "Oh God!" he chuckles. "I think they're polar opposites. True, they can be hot-headed, they're ver much alpha-personality types, but I think they'd hate each other. Put them in the same room and one would end up dead." Which one, we ask? " Probably the one who doesn't have superpowers."
So where does the Fantastic Four fit into Evans desire to get in touch with his inner character actor? "Unfortuanately, with Fantastic Four sometimes you feel like you are making a product," he admits "With Danny, it's just about the film, regardless of whether the 16 to 19 year-old women think so-and-so is attractive. But it's give and take, I chose to do certain movies as stepping stones and now it's a matter of me making sure I don't continue doing Fast And The Furious 8."
Empire can still sense throughout our chat with Evans a raging internal struggle between towing the party line("We were all dedicated to making this better than the first") and a desire to tell it how he see's it. An Empire observation that internet fanboys seem to be genuinely excited about the second coming of Bendy Stretcheroonie and co. provokes the following: "Well, I have yet to read alot of it, but I think they're curious if we could possibly be any worse. I think whenever a movie makes a lot of money, and it's critiqued terribly, then if you're going to make a sequel, people are kind of waiting with their arms crossed, waiting to see if we can improve."
Ouch, still, Evans recognises that doing movies like FF allows him to accrue more power and clout and, more importantly, money ("I owe that movie everything, it's the reason I'm not waiting tables and that's a fu**ing blessing"), thus allowing him to do what he really wants to do and-hey! guess what that is? "I would love to direct and the sooner I can do that, the better," admits Evans. "I love acting to death, but I love watching a director set up a shot and talk to an actor and be a storyteller,and rehearse. I'm talking a million to two million-dollar budgets, character pieces. I don't think I'd ever want to make a big studio film."
Not that he's ruling out blockbusters as an actor-after all, he's signed onto a third Fantastic Four, and he's smart enough to know that one big payday equals directing debut. "At this point it's not even important now," he says, "If tomorrow Steven Spielberg said, 'Chris I have a movie where you walk across the camera and wave,' you can bet your a*s I'm doing it." So can we expect Evans in Indiana Jones And The Waving Dude? "That would be awesome!" laughs Evans. "I'd see that movie. Harrison Ford can just punch me out. One punch, a knockout. It's indiana Jones, you know?"
 
Well, if was made after the release, then its everyone for himself/herself....before the release, not to cool......but its his opinion to have so meh.

I respect it actually, its nice to see an actor be honest for a change, rather than just completely and utterley bigging up his movie despite the fact that he doesnt know if it will be good or not.

It made me respect him a lot more anyway.

Empire Magazine article
Man On Fire

The IMDb-the essential movie information website and godsend for many a scrambling film journalist says many things about young American actor Chris Evans. It specifies quite clearly that he's not to be confused with that ginger bloke who used to be on the telly. It lists his nickname as 'Cevens', which doesn't exactly push the boundaries of originality. It says that he's six feet tall...and one half inch. And It quotes him as saying, " I'd love to be Tom Cruise." No surprise there-show Empire a young actor who wouldn't want to be Tom Cruise, and we'll show you... Well, as it turns out, we'll show you Chris Evans.
"I don't know who took that quote, I don't know where I said it, but every fu**ing time someone interviews me..." he laughs, "I have never wanted that. He's wonderful, he's a great actor and I'd love to have his success, but as far as emulating who he is in the public eye, I don't think I want that type of career."
The strange thing is he means it... he means it.Evans could easily become one of the main contenders to fill The Cruiser's shoes now that Tom has apparently passed his peak. After all, he's good looking, talented and charismatic, with a happy knack of being the best thing in pretty much everything he's done so far, emerging from Not Another Teen Movie with dignity intact, and confidently anchoring David R. Ellis' buoyant B-movie Cellular.
But it's the double whammy of the Fantastic Four movies and Danny Boyle's journey-to-the-centre-of-the-sun thriller Sunshine that have really turned up the heat on Evans. The former proved that he had star quality in spades, the latter that he had acting chops. And while, right now, Sunshine might seem like the anomaly on Evans CV, in a few years time it could be the likes of Fantastic Four that stick out like sore thumbs.
True to his word, Evans isn't in the lead in Sunshine ( that honour falls to Cillian Murphy), but it's his character, the quick-tempered astronaut Mace who holds together the desperate mission to restart our dying sun, that lodges in your brain after you emerge blinking into the real sunlight, mostly because of Evans innate ability to take what could have been a by-the-book a**hole and make him likeable.
"It's personally enjoyable when the audience likes you, but I think the most important thing to do is tell the truth, and if the truth for Mace isn't exactly the most likeable thing for the audience thats not going to be my problem." says Evans, a Bostonian who studied acting at the prestigious Lee Strasberg Theater Institute in New York. "My problem is to make sure that I'm honest and be interesting. And I think interesting is different from likeable."
Turning a swaggering di**head of an astronaut into a guy you'd like to have a beer with is a trick that Evans has already pulled off before, of course with his most famous role to date: the Fantastic Four's Johnny Storm,aka. the Human Torch. But just as Empire starts to make comparisons, Evans cuts us off with a snort of laughter, "Oh God!" he chuckles. "I think they're polar opposites. True, they can be hot-headed, they're ver much alpha-personality types, but I think they'd hate each other. Put them in the same room and one would end up dead." Which one, we ask? " Probably the one who doesn't have superpowers."
So where does the Fantastic Four fit into Evans desire to get in touch with his inner character actor? "Unfortuanately, with Fantastic Four sometimes you feel like you are making a product," he admits "With Danny, it's just about the film, regardless of whether the 16 to 19 year-old women think so-and-so is attractive. But it's give and take, I chose to do certain movies as stepping stones and now it's a matter of me making sure I don't continue doing Fast And The Furious 8."
Empire can still sense throughout our chat with Evans a raging internal struggle between towing the party line("We were all dedicated to making this better than the first") and a desire to tell it how he see's it. An Empire observation that internet fanboys seem to be genuinely excited about the second coming of Bendy Stretcheroonie and co. provokes the following: "Well, I have yet to read alot of it, but I think they're curious if we could possibly be any worse. I think whenever a movie makes a lot of money, and it's critiqued terribly, then if you're going to make a sequel, people are kind of waiting with their arms crossed, waiting to see if we can improve."
Ouch, still, Evans recognises that doing movies like FF allows him to accrue more power and clout and, more importantly, money ("I owe that movie everything, it's the reason I'm not waiting tables and that's a fu**ing blessing"), thus allowing him to do what he really wants to do and-hey! guess what that is? "I would love to direct and the sooner I can do that, the better," admits Evans. "I love acting to death, but I love watching a director set up a shot and talk to an actor and be a storyteller,and rehearse. I'm talking a million to two million-dollar budgets, character pieces. I don't think I'd ever want to make a big studio film."
Not that he's ruling out blockbusters as an actor-after all, he's signed onto a third Fantastic Four, and he's smart enough to know that one big payday equals directing debut. "At this point it's not even important now," he says, "If tomorrow Steven Spielberg said, 'Chris I have a movie where you walk across the camera and wave,' you can bet your a*s I'm doing it." So can we expect Evans in Indiana Jones And The Waving Dude? "That would be awesome!" laughs Evans. "I'd see that movie. Harrison Ford can just punch me out. One punch, a knockout. It's indiana Jones, you know?"

Thanks for posting the article, i havent had time to search for it lately so thanks a lot.
 
Evans is so good in this movie.

His character, sorta like Ben's in the first movie, has so much depth and growth in Rise of the SS, that it makes me enjoy the Human Torch character even more then i do.

Plus, i love it that in both major final battle scenes with Dr. Doom, that Torch plays a main role in them, specially the second one. I know it goes again the logic of the whole losing power by touch thing, but Torch having all four powers at once, was really...really cool to see done on film. :cool:
 
I respect it actually, its nice to see an actor be honest for a change, rather than just completely and utterley bigging up his movie despite the fact that he doesnt know if it will be good or not.

It made me respect him a lot more anyway.



Thanks for posting the article, i havent had time to search for it lately so thanks a lot.


I don't think theres anything wrong with being honest, thats cool.....I'm just not sure of the timing.......

It's not about honesty to me, its about the fact that with the contract he also is signing a portion of time for promotion. After the film comes out, all honesty can be put out there as much as he wants, before that, he is promoting, and IMO, thats not promoting. If he wasn't happy with the first movie, thats fine. But when promoting the second, either promote it, or stay quiet. But thats just my opinion...
 
Evans is so good in this movie.

His character, sorta like Ben's in the first movie, has so much depth and growth in Rise of the SS, that it makes me enjoy the Human Torch character even more then i do.

Plus, i love it that in both major final battle scenes with Dr. Doom, that Torch plays a main role in them, specially the second one. I know it goes again the logic of the whole losing power by touch thing, but Torch having all four powers at once, was really...really cool to see done on film. :cool:

Yeah, i see what you're saying, the problem is, he went through practically the same arc in the exdented edition of the first movie, so it was a bit repetetive IMO.

I don't think theres anything wrong with being honest, thats cool.....I'm just not sure of the timing.......

It's not about honesty to me, its about the fact that with the contract he also is signing a portion of time for promotion. After the film comes out, all honesty can be put out there as much as he wants, before that, he is promoting, and IMO, thats not promoting. If he wasn't happy with the first movie, thats fine. But when promoting the second, either promote it, or stay quiet. But thats just my opinion...

Yeah, i suppose it just depends on your opinion really, i genuinly respected the fact that he was able to be honest and realistic in an industry that isnt known for being either. It was a very refreshing change to the usual garbage we are subjected to.

But thats just me.
 
I really respect Chris, simply because he is always honest about his work and he knows himself that the F4 movies are either hated or loved. But I do remember reading an article on Chris Evans V.net where he had plans for future F4 movies to be more "serious" and I think its cool that he still has faith in them :)
 
I really respect Chris, simply because he is always honest about his work and he knows himself that the F4 movies are either hated or loved. But I do remember reading an article on Chris Evans V.net where he had plans for future F4 movies to be more "serious" and I think its cool that he still has faith in them :)

Well i think he knows what the fans want more than the studio does, i think we all wanted a more serious tone for ROTSS considering the story, and while that doesnt mean the movie should be devoid of humour, there shouldnt be as much useless humour as there was in this movie.

Plus, after seeing Chris in Sunshine, i REALLY hope they let him pull off a performance like that in a future FF movie. Heck when Sue 'died' he should have been in bits, and he has the capability to pull that off IMO, but the film-makers just wouldnt allow it seemingly.
 

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