Hype Survivor Hype Survivor XXVI: The New Challengers! Day 15 - Return to **** City!

[Matt]

I've not backtracked. I just want to hear all opinions before we move forward. What is yours Marx?

 

[Matt]

Heh, is this a way to draw me in to nag at me for complaining...

Not at all, this is different than *****ing about a judge making a ruling you didn't like. This is a decision that can effect the game. I can't say I will rule in the way you suggest or in a way that all players like, but I'd like to hear what all players have to say before I move forward, so what are your thoughts?

 

[Movies205]

I've not backtracked. I just want to hear all opinions before we move forward. What is yours Marx?

You should put some stock in people who actually know what they're talking about If the players don't want Badger in they can excersize there right to VOTE HIM OUT, its not as if your replacing him with a better player. Essentially, you're playing favorites because your acknowledging he might not get voted out and a player you like more will so you'll take him out so the players you like will stay in. This is why taking him out and taking it out of the players hands is a bad idea

 

[The Squirrel]

How is it not fair? Not participating is a strategy in and of itself, I'm sorry are favorite players can't win, but that's not how it works. Hype Survivor and real Survivor are two completely different things and are only loosely connected. Deadweight is part of the fun for players, unless everyone is deadweight, but one deadweight player is an X factor, and is to be expected. There's a lot of different things that make a good survivor experience and one is having a proper balance between different kinds of players. In fact, I think you have no idea what you're talking about and don't know why you're commenting, weren't you deadweight in my game, I didn't just eject you, I waited till someone voted you off

I wasn't dead weight for over a month. And the players were smart to vote me off.

If your strategy revolves around keeping an in active player in the game, then you got a ****** strategy to begin with.

 

[Matt]

You should put some stock in people who actually know what they're talking about If the players don't want Badger in they can excersize there right to VOTE HIM OUT, its not as if your replacing him with a better player. Essentially, you're playing favorites because your acknowledging he might not get voted out and a player you like more will so you'll take him out so the players you like will stay in. This is why taking him out and taking it out of the players hands is a bad idea

With all due respect, you don't really know the Badger situation at all.

 

[Movies205]

I wasn't dead weight for over a month. And the players were smart to vote me off.

If your strategy revolves around keeping an in active player in the game, then you got a ****** strategy to begin with.

I'm not saying the strategy is good or bad, but its up to the players, not the hosts once the game has begun.

 

[KALEL114]

It seems as though Matt has backtracked, so I really have nothing further to say. I just hope that you all were arguing the actually ruling, and not the fact the an expendable alliance member (Badger) was going to be eliminated.

I'm upset because an announcement was made and now conveniently it means nothing. If you make an announcement, you need to stick with it. The only way an exception should be made is if the Boards crashed and no one could log in.
And I love you. :heart:

 

[Movies205]

With all due respect, you don't really know the Badger situation at all.

The guy's been inactive for a month, you want him out, anything else I need to know? If the players wanted him out, they'd vote him out. How is this statement not right? Hell, it'd be ****in easy to take him out, so again if the players want him out, why isn't he out?

 

[Marx]

I've not backtracked. I just want to hear all opinions before we move forward. What is yours Marx?

As I said, it's clear to me that the two involved in the tie-breaker game were having some problems getting it organized and figuring out how to make it a private game. According to this thread, they did not begin playing the game until 1115 or so. They couldn't figure out how to make it private because it was not explained to them. (The fact that they were even able to finish a poker game in such a short amount of time astounds me.) They appeared to have trouble uploading a screen cap, and ended up getting it in six minutes past the deadline.

In my view, this seems to be more a case of players complaining about the elimination of an expendable alliance member, than fairness in the game.

I mean that as respectfully as I can to everyone currently involved in the game.

 

[Matt]

I'm upset because an announcement was made and now conveniently it means nothing. If you make an announcement, you need to stick with it. The only way an exception should be made is if the Boards crashed and no one could log in.
And I love you. :heart:

I acknowledge however that my instructions were not clear. Why should I punish players because I was not clear in my instructions?

 

[POWdER-man]

I've already decided I'm going to give CC a grace period if I overrule the decision on ousting Badger. I want to hear what POWdER has to say first.

FYI I never got the Tribal Council PM, probably b/c my pm box was full and a mod (you or Bella) didn't send it. I am not sure if Chase mentioned that yet to you (or even if he sent them out). I didn't even know they went out until this morning.

As for whether or not to just boot out Badger or let the votes decide. If anything I suppose badger should be booted out before a challenge rather than after.

 

[Marx]

I'm upset because an announcement was made and now conveniently it means nothing. If you make an announcement, you need to stick with it. The only way an exception should be made is if the Boards crashed and no one could log in.
And I love you. :heart:

I haven't forgotten about your little stunt TLS.

Spoiler

 

[KALEL114]

I acknowledge however that my instructions were not clear. Why should I punish players because I was not clear in my instructions?

Did you have to explain to us how to start a private game for the Chess challenge? No. We figured it out on our own.

 

[Spider-Fan]

How many survivors have you actually played? How many times have you been in the final stretch? Do you even understand how the game works? As hosts (I've hosted 2 survivor games), we'd love to see players be active it takes time to make challenges and we want them played, but let's cut the naivety and realize that a good survivor player doesn't need to win challenges most of the time, he or she has scrupulously crafted a well design plan that factors in all the players including deadweight, if you remove a single piece there entire plan collapses, and that simply is not fair. Especially when all the host is suppose to do is facilitate the players, its like the controversy in American Idol over the Judges being able to save someone, it takes it out of the players hand and puts it into an unseen force. Survivor is not about who tries the hardest, it simply about who survives for whatever reason.

How is it not fair? Not participating is a strategy in and of itself, I'm sorry are favorite players can't win, but that's not how it works. Hype Survivor and real Survivor are two completely different things and are only loosely connected. Deadweight is part of the fun for players, unless everyone is deadweight, but one deadweight player is an X factor, and is to be expected. There's a lot of different things that make a good survivor experience and one is having a proper balance between different kinds of players. In fact, I think you have no idea what you're talking about and don't know why you're commenting, weren't you deadweight in my game, I didn't just eject you, I waited till someone voted you off

The guy's been inactive for a month, you want him out, anything else I need to know? If the players wanted him out, they'd vote him out. How is this statement not right? Hell, it'd be ****in easy to take him out, so again if the players want him out, why isn't he out?

Mentor :heart:

 

[KALEL114]

I haven't forgotten about your little stunt TLS.

Spoiler

Doh!

 

[POWdER-man]

As I said, it's clear to me that the two involved in the tie-breaker game were having some problems getting it organized and figuring out how to make it a private game. According to this thread, they did not begin playing the game until 1115 or so. They couldn't figure out how to make it private because it was not explained to them. (The fact that they were even able to finish a poker game in such a short amount of time astounds me.) They appeared to have trouble uploading a screen cap, and ended up getting it in six minutes past the deadline.

In my view, this seems to be more a case of players complaining about the elimination of an expendable alliance member, than fairness in the game.

I mean that as respectfully as I can to everyone currently involved in the game.

To be honest, I lost in the Chess challenge because I was around in the morning and early afternoon when my opponent wasn't and then they made themselves only available that night, so basically I lost b/c I wasn't the last person on. No extension for me. I was actually a little upset about that.

 

[Movies205]

Ultimately, it is Matt's call, but I figure I should chime in with the voice of reason and experience considering I've been playing since Hype Survivor 2 and hosted 2 games. Powder also brings up a valid point is that if anything should of happen before a challenge, not after. The deed is done, send out the votes, and if the players want him out, they'll have him out.

 

[Matt]

Alright guys, I got what I wanted.

POWdER-Man
SF
TLS

of the active players, that is 3 of 5. That would be a majority vote. It'll slow things down a bit, but I suppose that's not the end of the world. Thank you for all of your opinions. Badger will stay in the game. CC is awarded immunity as I WILL give her the six minute grace period (Sorry TLS, its a judgement call and I'm making it). Tribal Council PMs will be sent when CC sends me an Exile.

 

[Movies205]

Alright guys, I got what I wanted.

POWdER-Man
SF
TLS

of the active players, that is 3 of 5. That would be a majority vote. It'll slow things down a bit, but I suppose that's not the end of the world. Thank you for all of your opinions. Badger will stay in the game. CC is awarded immunity as I WILL give her the six minute grace period (Sorry TLS, its a judgement call and I'm making it). Tribal Council PMs will be sent when CC sends me an Exile.

Well played

 

[Matt]

And in a funny twist, CC has elected to send Badger to Exile Island. Tribal Council PMs will be sent shortly.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I support the overturn Matt, and I appreciate you listening to our points

 

[Movies205]

And in a funny twist, CC has elected to send Badger to Exile Island. Tribal Council PMs will be sent shortly.

Case in point.

 

[Marx]

And in a funny twist, CC has elected to send Badger to Exile Island. Tribal Council PMs will be sent shortly.

:facepalm

 

[Matt]

by the way, hurry the **** up and vote. I will post the results as soon as I get a majority so Bella can start Day 16 and we won't have to wait til monday for the next day.

 

[Spider-Fan]

LOL...great twist